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GlenB
05-28-2008, 08:47 PM
How do you find an a broken wire in a harness?

For example. Let's say you have no brake lights. You've checked for power coming out of the brake light switch and you have power. But when you test at the rear light sockets, there is none. You've decided that the wire must be broken somewhere between the 2 points, but you don't know where.

You have a couple of choices. You can start mutilating and carving on the harness, pulling interior trim (and your hair) out trying to find the broken spot to fix it. Or, you can run your own wire (over-lay) from the switch to the rear light sockets which will be almost as much work for all the interior trim to remove to hide the wire.... which may still come out looking funny.

Is there a 3rd choice? Maybe. What if you knew within a few inches in the harness where the open was. Then you could go nearly straight to it, fix it, and do a neater job right?

Use your car's radio, a calculator (or anything else with a large LCD display). Tune the radio to a quiet AM channel in the low end of the band. Run a wire from the car's antenna to one end of the problem wire. The antenna must have a metal mast. You must have both ends of the wire disconnected in the car so that the wire is not connected at either end and just laying in the car basically.

Pass the device with the LCD display along the wire starting at the end you connected to the antenna to and listen to the radio. You'll hear the noise from the LCD coming over the car's speakers. When the noise stops, you've passed the break. The larger the display the better for penetrating plastic interior trim. This also helps in figuring out which way the wire goes in a harness that branches different ways and is all wrapped up tight in tape and loom without ripping it all open to look.

The Rob
05-29-2008, 09:10 AM
Interesting. Cheap way of using one of these...

http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/PP-PPECT2000.html

ryans
05-29-2008, 10:42 AM
I've never heard of that method. I'll tell my buddy who claims he is a car electronics guru.

GlenB
05-29-2008, 12:30 PM
I actually picked that up in a Chrylser electronics class. The trainer pulled that little tip out. You can test it by passing the LCD display next to the antenna and listen... it'll sound like a loud buzz. I've actually used the trick once ever. That's one of those things that by the time you could use the tip, you forget about it.

A large display is important.

The Rob
05-29-2008, 01:57 PM
A large display is important.

I wonder if a iPhone will work. Or maybe the cellular antenna is going to cause too much RFI. I know whenever you have a cell phone too close to the radio you get a lot of digital noise bleeding into the radio.

I've never heard of that method. I'll tell my buddy who claims he is a car electronics guru.

Please say it's not Paris.

XtremeModifier
05-29-2008, 05:26 PM
I wonder if a HAM Radio could be used...

Damn thieves took my Sitronix 1011D, though.