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NTTypeR
04-12-2002, 04:23 AM
what cars is this engine in. is it only in carollas? and what years? is it only in 86 or what?
Mr 20Valve
04-12-2002, 04:25 AM
dude, sorry to be a prick, but this is one thread that belongs in "Newbie Corner"... :D
Mr 20Valve
04-12-2002, 04:27 AM
just to set you straight though...
the AE-86 IS a Corolla... its not an engine.
its a car.
geddit???
AE-86 = Car.
:D
NTTypeR
04-12-2002, 05:15 PM
damnit some idiot told me it was an engine a while back and i believed it. hehe and a year ago when i didnt know shit about cars, somebody told me they had a v6 civic and i believed it, haha.
Shin180sx
04-13-2002, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by NTTypeR
damnit some idiot told me it was an engine a while back and i believed it. hehe and a year ago when i didnt know shit about cars,
nothings changed, you still don't know shit about cars
NTTypeR
04-13-2002, 03:37 PM
(sorry for acting like a know it all in this post, let me assure the rest of you that i'm still a newbie with lots to learn. just this guy with 2 posts got me a little pissed off by what he said, hehe)
Shin180sx,
i dont konw shit about cars? well i can tell you how a turbo works, how superchargers work, how a rotary engine and a piston engine work... i know how perfomance cams work, they make the overlap of intake and exahust valves longer, i can tell you how brakes work, i can tell you how the ignition system works with the distributor and all, i can tell you how cold air intake and short ram intake work. also i can tell you about the throttle body and what it has to do with a blow off valve. ive read a lot of posts of ppl like PNG and others and ive read almost everything about cars on howstuffworks.
Hatchracer199
04-13-2002, 04:29 PM
It was kinda funny though.;[
aabighead
04-14-2002, 12:41 PM
lol howstuffworks..lol thats some funny stuff man :D but i say you dont know jack until youve been working under the hood :)
240freak
04-14-2002, 05:52 PM
why is this thread still in the drifting forum? it needs to be in the newbie forum.
Qstar07
04-14-2002, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by 240freak
why is this thread still in the drifting forum? it needs to be in the newbie forum.
:rolleyes:
Venom
04-14-2002, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by 240freak
why is this thread still in the drifting forum? it needs to be in the newbie forum. yeah this thread has nothing to do with drifting except that it has the car that's well abled
NTTypeR
04-14-2002, 08:02 PM
whats so funny about howstuffworks.com? anyone will tell you thats a great imformative site to learn tons of information about cars.
Mr 20Valve
04-14-2002, 08:42 PM
ill give props to the dude for actually getting on & asking questions about things he doesnt know.... rather than bullshitting about everything, like a lot of other fools on these forums do...
he's trying to increase his knowledge & i respect that.
(but this still belongs in 'Newbie Corner'... :p
Venom
04-15-2002, 01:49 AM
Originally posted by Mr 20Valve
ill give props to the dude for actually getting on & asking questions about things he doesnt know.... rather than bullshitting about everything, like a lot of other fools on these forums do...
he's trying to increase his knowledge & i respect that.
(but this still belongs in 'Newbie Corner'... :p haha alright ill give that props
Originally posted by 240freak
why is this thread still in the drifting forum? it needs to be in the newbie forum.
I'm sorry, is it YOUR place to tell us where to put things. Watch your step kiddo, you are still on my shit list.
Originally posted by NTTypeR
also i can tell you about the throttle body and what it has to do with a blow off valve.
Ummm ... OK ... tell me, because that sentence doesn't quite read right. While the are associated, your sentence reads as if a throttle body depends on a blow off valve or something.
shockwave
04-18-2002, 09:12 AM
AE86 isn;t the "car" its just the chassis... the AE86 chassis runs a 4ag engine.
NTTypeR
04-18-2002, 04:14 PM
in a turbo car, when you slow down there is boost that wants to get out. if you dont have a blow off valve it will want to get out through the throttle body when the valve is closed and that will mess things up. so you have a blow off valve for the extra boost to be released. sorry if my sentece wasnt making sense, i wasnt trying to get into detail. also sorry for acting like a know it all because i dont know much, as you can see i thought an ae86 was an engine, hehe, but now i know. i'm just trying to learn stuff, sorry.
Mr 20Valve
04-18-2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by NTTypeR
in a turbo car, when you slow down there is boost that wants to get out. if you dont have a blow off valve it will want to get out through the throttle body when the valve is closed and that will mess things up. so you have a blow off valve for the extra boost to be released. sorry if my sentece wasnt making sense, i wasnt trying to get into detail. also sorry for acting like a know it all because i dont know much, as you can see i thought an ae86 was an engine, hehe, but now i know. i'm just trying to learn stuff, sorry.
heres something else for you then...
a blow off valve isnt really there to protect the throttle body...
its actually there to protect the turbo & to provide smooth transition between gearchanges.
it stops the air from being jammed in the turbo-to-throttlebody piping which can cause compressor stall...
Ritz S14
04-18-2002, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by Mr 20Valve
heres something else for you then...
a blow off valve isnt really there to protect the throttle body...
its actually there to protect the turbo & to provide smooth transition between gearchanges.
it stops the air from being jammed in the turbo-to-throttlebody piping which can cause compressor stall...
Quick question about BOV. In an automatic, you don't let go of the throttle as the trans changes gears. So in this case how would it work?
But then again there are diverter valves built in to some BOVs, doesn't this allow air to continue to flow to the TB in a manual, and wouldn't this stall the compressor, cause it's like pushing air into a closed valve?
Mr 20Valve
04-18-2002, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by TRD-CHASER
Quick question about BOV. In an automatic, you don't let go of the throttle as the trans changes gears. So in this case how would it work?
But then again there are diverter valves built in to some BOVs, doesn't this allow air to continue to flow to the TB in a manual, and wouldn't this stall the compressor, cause it's like pushing air into a closed valve?
in an automatic, havent you noticed that the BOV doesnt vent when the transmission shifts gears? a blow off valve is of less use in an automatic than a manual. (most people i know of who fit BOVs to automatics just like the PSSSSSHT sound :rolleyes: )
the 'diverter valves' as you called them are actually recirculation systems which instead of releasing the vented charge into the atmosphere (under the hood), its actually got a pipe which redirects it back into the inlet tract, before the turbocharger, but after the AFM (air-flow-meter). this is generally used on engines which utilise an AFM, because the computer has already calculated for the correct amount of fuel to ignite with the incoming air measured through the AFM... when this air is vented to the atmosphere, the computer has already made allowances for this air, and so will overfuel the engine for a second. thats not neccessarily a bad thing, but the EPA dont like it... :D (damn smog sniffers) :p
so no, it doesnt allow compressed air to continue to the throttlebody, it still acts like one of those loud-ass BOVs in preventing compressor stall, but its direting the charge back into the turbo, so as not to upset the air/fuel mixture.
*also, authorities dont like loud BOVs for the same reason they dont like noisy exhaust systems... we cant have the neighbours being woken up late at night by the hypnotic whiplash sound of a BOV now can we? :D**
mixmastatez
04-19-2002, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by TRD-CHASER
Quick question about BOV. In an automatic, you don't let go of the throttle as the trans changes gears. So in this case how would it work?
But then again there are diverter valves built in to some BOVs, doesn't this allow air to continue to flow to the TB in a manual, and wouldn't this stall the compressor, cause it's like pushing air into a closed valve?
when the auto changes gears the engines rpms drop back, meaning less gas passing through the engine, meaning much less pressure on the engine side of the turbine than the exhaust side, so the wheel can stall or even start to spin backwards. the BOV vents the pressure excess on the exhaust side back into the inlet tract as the system is set from the factory, or to the atmosphere for that oh-so-desirable pssssshhh.
i think thats right
Mr 20Valve
04-19-2002, 02:01 AM
isnt that what i just said???
:p
I was just being an ass about the BOV. I know exactly what they do, why they do, etc. ... as well I should having ... well ... blah blah blah rotary this and that. Same goes for pop-off valves ... which contrary to commong misconception, provides a completely different function.
Mr 20Valve
04-19-2002, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by DK
pop-off valves ... which contrary to commong misconception, provides a completely different function.
100% correct.
no-one seems to know the function of a pop off valve. they think its the same as a BOV huh?
im not gonna ruin it for ya though...
ill wait till someone asks. :D
-MtX-
04-19-2002, 04:49 AM
It's called a pop-off valve because it makes a loud pop when it lets off excess pressure. The effect is a sudden drop in horsepower
all I know.
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