techniques

[Imagine]

what techniques do you guys use? I am more fond of the faint drift or whatver where you turn the wheel the opposite way and snap it back the other way to lose traction. Not really fond of e-brakes. Just wondering. Not saying I'm good or anything.

[Mr 20Valve]

ditto.

i feel uncomfortable using the handbrake... i like to keep both hands on the wheel.

ill either feint, or trail brake (otherwise known as braking drift) where ill jump on the brakes hard to get the rear end light, then turn in so the back steps out. get back on the power, then its simply a matter of counter-steering though the apex...

ill need to get out on the track a bit more before i start trying any new techniques.... im too scared ill fuck up somehow & hit something when im trying it on the street... :p

[ridge]

on 4th, downshift, blip throttle, downshift, turn countersteer, (throttle/brake) to control the car.

Its called the ridge techique. Only MY CAR with my type of tire setup and tranny gearing ratio was I be able to do it.

[Raziel]

I think its called shift lock. Where u push the clutch in while still holding the gas down and den letting go of the clutch when u take the turn.

[Dj Elektrique]

"kiri kiri" sounds like "kitty kitty" - means clutch kick style. clutch kick going into the turn, sometimes a combination of faint and clutch kick, feel stomach juices flow

braking - as explained above in another post, hard braking, setting the front while turning into the turn, drop clutch/countersteer, pucker asshole

sidebrake - uh.. use your sidebrake. hard braking to set the front, steer into the turn, and tug on sidebrake quickly, throttle control, counter, again, stomach juices be a flowin'

up shift - just before entering turn with rpms close to redline, shift up into the next gear, causing diff to lock to accel, braking traction, balls tighten into gut (yes requires a good diff & power, and large nutsack)

counter - countersteer, basically what you call faint, your mind thinks you are doing something wrong, but trust me, it feels sooo good.

Those are some common classes you can enter into at drift events and you are expected to use that style that you entered.

[Fast2Seater]

Originally posted by :[TenzO]:
I think its called shift lock. Where u push the clutch in while still holding the gas down and den letting go of the clutch when u take the turn.

That's basically the meathod I've been using in tying to get the rear end to step out.

[LilBoiBlu]

rev up to around 4000rpm, start pumpin the clutch(so back tires lose traction and start spinning), lightly turn out of turn then turn sharp into the turn.

[Rich]

I use the "scandanavian flick" aka stutter steer. Snap the wheel away from the apex, then quickly snap back, this steps the ass end out. Feather the throttle to keep the ass end out, and countersteer to keep the drift going.

[Steeda'd GT]

Before my valve springs decided to take a sabatical, I used a steep down shift (from 4th to 2nd, 3rd to 1st) and a nice stab of the loud pedal to get the car loose before the apex and tried to maintain the spin for as long as possible. If I used to much throttle, I found myself on the rev limiter and loosing momentum. I really don't know if you would call that a technique for drifting, but I learned alot about car control while is a spin or skid, as well as throttle and brake control. I have still not manged to work up the nerve to try a 4th gear drift yet, maybe one day. Drifting at open track events or the Auto-X is a HUGE no-no around here, so I am limited to what I can safely attempt on back roads and parking lots. Broken cars, broken parts, and bodily harm aren't high on my list as of this minute.

I had no real concept (still don't know enough) of drifting when I first bought my car, so I tried to adapt techniques I learned from Tokyo Highway Battle (PS game). (if you have never saw this game, buy it-the Drift King is on the opening credits doing some magnificent driving) I know it sounds pitiful, but it sure did look cool.

I am hoping to have the money to invest on a car that I can have a true drift set-up and use it for the weekends. My Mustang's suspension isn't anywhere near what I'd want for drifting, and the thought of all that negative camber on my 255-40 ZR 17's gives me panic attacks.:)

[max_misawa]

what i usually do is approach a turn in 3rd.
shift to second rev matching.
start the turn as soon as i get some weight transfer i let the cluch spin at about 50% and the quickly release the clutch(pop) and smash the gas.
i would consider this a basic or begginers technique.
it is very helpful for me, i am gaining confidence in my driving and i know how fast i can go and still be safe.

Max

[Raziel]

Originally posted by max_misawa
what i usually do is approach a turn in 3rd.
shift to second rev matching.
start the turn as soon as i get some weight transfer i let the cluch spin at about 50% and the quickly release the clutch(pop) and smash the gas.
i would consider this a basic or begginers technique.
it is very helpful for me, i am gaining confidence in my driving and i know how fast i can go and still be safe.

Max


I do the same but dont downshift cuz i want to keep both hands on the steering wheel for more control. I just hold the clutch down and rev it to a high rpm and drop the clutch so i lose Traction. I dont dont think we need to downshift.

[max_misawa]

BTW i drift with an open diff.

Max

[Buffalo Daughter]

im used to clutch kicking. i use faint drifting sometimes. i tried e-braking but can never stick it. i lock and spin out.I did it once but that was the only time. I can only round one corner using clutch kick and drift through in 3rd and sometimes i downshift when i remember. I cant string together multiple ones. Sway drifting is cool an super easy and do it alot. I still have a open diff so im still one leggin it = P. I try. Still practicing.

lately havent tried anything since tires are nearbald and its raining here plus i need to conserve for my trips to frisco.


Paste

[Boosted]

I like to practice in the rain......just put my foot down until she starts to break loose and then feather and steer. :D Yeah baby, I can drift......;)

[XiaoMing]

clutch in, gas, declutch, upset traction with sudden added power
it's supposedly really bad for your drivetrain unless you do it with some other techniques so that there is less stress on the drivetrain (like shifting weight to front or just doing it in rain)

[mptmvp]

the only one ive ever tried was the shift lock... i drive at about 35 swing it away from the apex then as im swingin it back to the apex i drop it into first. the revs are at about 5 and i just countersteer and hang on.. ive never tried the feint or the side brake no big-fast corners for feint and too small of balls for side brake.

[Professor]

Dia
The Race Drift as you said is probably the most favorable by drivers as you can feel the weight of the car thru a corner and use the wheel along with the throttle to stutter or hack thru it. Trail braking is a great tool if you own an older RWD or another that has a problem with serious oversteer probs.

[Soarer]

may sound dumb, but i lost my 240 a lil while ago and still have my SC,

can i drift w/ the auto? i knoww the car doesnt have that much power to spin the wheels and lose traction at will all the time but would this be wise? thnx

[Mr 20Valve]

i started clutch-kicking everywhere i went the weekend before last & found that it was a very very easy way of starting the drift... dont think ill have too many drivtrain problems because my tyres are pretty crap at the moment (read: bald) and its great for lower speed corners...

i even tried it on a reeeeaaaaaall long straight the other day, & found that i could hold it out while sliding in a straight line for a good 150 ft or so!!!!!! felt really good!! :D

if you havent figured it out yet, the key to drifting is to leave your fear at home.... if you get hurt, you get hurt... and if you crunch your car, you get it fixed... youve gotta be able to accept the fact that its all practice & if something happens, youve got no-one to blame but yourself... :D

happy drifting everyone!!! :)

[HadesOmega]

left foot brake and use the ebrake to adjust drift angle yeah yeah it's an FF technique

[Silvia S14]

I pee on the road and then drive over it and lose mad traction, wrd.

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by HadesOmega
left foot brake and use the ebrake to adjust drift angle

sounds like a line straight out of Initial D.... :p

Originally posted by Silvia S14
I pee on the road and then drive over it and lose mad traction, wrd.

thats funny...

i tried that & all i got was funny looks from passers-by... :D

[Raziel]

How bout some of that cooking spray thing. That hella slipery stuff hehe.. i think its called PAM?

[951dude]

Where's a good place in San Jose to practice drifting without having to worry about other cars? Don't post obviously, just PM me. Tenzo?Max?

[Qstar07]

what's this drifting you guys are so in to? it is fun?

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by Qstar07
what's this drifting you guys are so in to? it is fun?

its only any good every second weekend in September, plus you need a lot of money to do it & your parents approval, so its obviously not for everyone.

ask some of the Civic guys in the "imports" forum... they know all about drifting from watching this cartoon called "Initial D"...

drag racing is better, trust me. :D

[Qstar07]

what's 20valve??? do you have this 20valve in your car???

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by Qstar07
what's 20valve??? do you have this 20valve in your car???

a 20Valve (as in my handle) refers to an engine with 20 valves...

and yes, i do happen to have a 20V engine in my car. it has 4 cylinders, with 3 inlet valves and 2 exhaust valves per cylinder. totalling 20 valves. :)

the most common 20 valve engines are made by VW/Audi, Toyota & Volvo.





here endeth this lesson. class dismissed. :D

[Qstar07]

what about 4age..what's that???...it's written on my engine.

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by Qstar07
what about 4age..what's that???...it's written on my engine.

i dunno...

ive heard of it somewhere too, but i cant quite put my finger on it.

must be the engine type if its written on your engine, huh? (i could be wrong about that though...)

[Mr 20Valve]

sorry if im being condescending by the way....

youve obviously come here to test who was going to be an asshole to you & it happened to be me... (lucky Rich didnt get in on the act!! :D)

but dont blame me... im in a strange mood today & im very hungry at the moment & ive only got 15 minutes left before i can leave work.


**dont ask me why im explaining all this to someone halfway across the other side of the world, but im bored, so what can i say...**

:)

[HadesOmega]

yeah i learned it from intial D but I tried it for real at buttonwillow and it worx. You shift the load to the front to lighten the rear then use the ebrake to adjust the angle of drift. Makes sense. I can do a left foot brake drift also but it's for speed if you really wanna get sideways you use the parking brake. haha it ultimately goes down to do I want speed or cool points?

When you left foot brake and it breaks traction it gives that MR driftly feeling or AWD. Cuz it it doesn't really require countersteering you basically adjusting your drift using the brakes. Haha too much brakes though and you lock the front and understeer so you gotta be careful, hehe I did that at buttonwillow also.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Mr 20Valve
sorry if im being condescending by the way....

youve obviously come here to test who was going to be an asshole to you & it happened to be me... (lucky Rich didnt get in on the act!! :D)

no, it's because I have been sorta busy at work.....
Originally posted by HadesOmega
When you left foot brake and it breaks traction it gives that MR driftly feeling or AWD. Cuz it it doesn't really require countersteering you basically adjusting your drift using the brakes. Haha too much brakes though and you lock the front and understeer so you gotta be careful, hehe I did that at buttonwillow also.
It's amazing what you can learn from a cartoon huh, moron :rolleyes:

Hades... you don't drift, you are just an ass dragger. Aka. fucking poser bitch. Go back to building your rice mobile, front digger....

As for the 4a-ge thing... I have often wondered myself what this means... I think it's a part number or something for that plastic part of the engine doohicky. I took it off, is that okay?

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by Rich


no, it's because I have been sorta busy at work.....

thats a lame excuse if ive ever heard one!!! :p

ive been flat out all day here at work & ive always got time to post random bullshit on message forums!!! :D



As for the 4a-ge thing... I have often wondered myself what this means... I think it's a part number or something for that plastic part of the engine doohicky. I took it off, is that okay?

mine mustnt be a 4AGE then.... mine doesnt say that.

my old motor did, but i threw that motor away before i could figure out why it said '4AGE' on it...

my motor just says 'TWINCAM 20' now, with a little round oval with what looks like a set of bulls horns in the middle of it.

not quite as mysterious as '4AGE' though, is it? :p

[Al]

HadesOmega, you reported a Moderator.... He read your report too....

On another note, I have 2 MR cars and I don't ever left foot brake. That shit is scary.... I do on the other hand, Brake drift. Both mr2's I have have upgraded suspension and sway bars..

92 turbo - koni's and eibach springs with ST sway bars and home made Strut bars (rear and front, top and bottom)

88 N/A - tockico's with H&R's, with homemade strut bars, and 92 turbo rear sway bar.

If anybody has an mr2 and left foot brakes to drift, please enlighten me on how to do it, I would like to learn if its the better way. (Please no Initial D qoutes)

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by Al
(Please no Initial D qoutes)


AWWWWWWWW...... :rolleyes:

[HadesOmega]

It worx on my car, I've never driven an MR2 (almost got though one of my eclipse buddies has one) before but I tried left foot braking in my friend's 86 and erm it's understeered. But he has some crap tires in teh front, good tires in the rear, and it was raining.

It takes a while to adjust to braking with your left foot because it feels unatural. You have to be really precise with it. Haha and yes it makes your brakes fade if you use it too much.

My cousin sez one of the 86 guys that autoxs left foot brakes when he races.

well I can see the moderators aren't gonna do anything. It's not like I start bad mouthing people for no apparent reason. I'm not the bad guy here he's the one descriminating on me. I just wanna share the knowledge.

[mixmastatez]

Originally posted by Al
On another note, I have 2 MR cars and I don't ever left foot brake. That shit is scary.... I do on the other hand, Brake drift. Both mr2's I have have upgraded suspension and sway bars..
If anybody has an mr2 and left foot brakes to drift, please enlighten me on how to do it, I would like to learn if its the better way. (Please no Initial D qoutes)

it helps having low grade 175/75 r14s:o
my weight transfer is pretty low now, but i have the 85 model sway bar on the back keeping it down- what did you have to do to fit the SW20 sway bar?
i do this crazy way an asian guy in a hachi i met on the street one night taught me- enter fast, trail brake with left foot, clutch in, handbrake + gas + drop a gear, drop handbrake & clutch, clench sphincter.
pissing on the apex beforehand to facilitate sidewaysness is not drift- its an art form:D

[mixmastatez]

Originally posted by HadesOmega
It worx on my car, I've never driven an MR2 (almost got though one of my eclipse buddies has one) before but I tried left foot braking in my friend's 86 and erm it's understeered. But he has some crap tires in teh front, good tires in the rear, and it was raining.
aquaplaning good? left foot braking is not 'left foot locks front wheels', um, usually that does cause understeer. at least in my experience

[HadesOmega]

yeah there's a limit to how much you should press the brakes. The key is full throttle will prevent it from locking, doh that's for ff, that just means you have to be extra careful in RWD cars. I have locked it in my car before, haha it was at buttonwillow when I was experimenting with it.

The way I usually do it is heel and toe then left foot brake right after. That way you get mega weight transfer into the corner. I don't have to counter steer too much also.

left foot braking isn't just slam on the brakes to get instant oversteer or welp understeer. like I said it's transfering weight to the front to lighten the rear. so for now I know it worx on eclipses, I need a gineau pig car other than mine to try it on. Hehe I'll try it in my mom's J30 but it's auto don't know how that'd work out. Oh I've tried in in a old golf but the suspension was so sloshy and the brakes so jacked up that I barely broke the rear out for like a second.

[Solidus]

Report AL to the moderaters. He quit calling and he drives slow cars. He also refuses to speak to people that ride stupid fast motorcycles. Rich I wish you guys would do something about him like ban him from posting. I would also like to report myself to the MODS for not coming to the site as often as I used to. I should be spanked. Rich , you should be spanked also for not having the time to be an ass. And AL you should be spanked for not remembering your friends. SilviaS14 you should be spanked for peeing all over the damned road. Last but not least HadesOmega , you should be spanked for not reading the damned list of moderaters before you make much adieu about nothing. You can't let your feelings get hurt over some quick words. I've been on these boards for a loooonnnnnnnng time and back in the day there were cats here that would rip you a new asshole on principle. It was all good and if it did'nt help you , it made you stronger. It also served to cement your place and standing within the pride. If you did'nt fit , you moved on. If you stayed , the other guy knew where you stood and vice versa. This ain't a site for soft hearted punks that can't take it. Either you're in or out, it's your choice. Rich has been here as long as me so now you know where I stand. Where are you gonna type your next post?

[Al]

Hey I remember my friends!!!!!!!!!!! :P Just have no time for them. I remember the good ol days... :) About the sway bar question you have to purchase a the Twos R Us adjustable sway bar end-links and you must have a 87 or newer AW11.

[HadesOmega]

bleh ok like I said I would test of left foot braking on a FR. Well I tried it with my friend 86 and it just understeered. Damn those crappy tires in the front. I didn't get to try it on my friend's AW11 cuz he didn't show up for a meet. I took my mom's Infinity J30 for a little drive and I tried to do left foot braking in it. Sometimes it understeered but I managed to get the back to swing a little like it does in my car. Damn that automatic wouldn't let me spin the tires while the back breaks loose.

Well to conclude it doesn't work very well in FR cars, but if you are very precise with the brakes it could help break the back loose. probably better to just heel and toe brake then apply full throttle (braking drift).

[IchibanDoriftu]

I guess this would go out to Mr20valve more than anyone, but here goes. 4AGE is an engine code. There are at least 10 different 4AGE engines out there, all that came in toyota corollas and i think and mr2. The hachi-roku came with an oldschool 4AGE, hachi go with like a 4CGE or something like that(not sure). The latest 4AGE engine came in a silvertop and a blacktop, the blacktop produces ~155bhp, and the silvertop produces ~160bhp. Both of these motors are 20valve and they only came in the japanese corollas 93-97(once again not sure about the years) the 4AGE is the flagship motor of Toyota, and it was used in one of the rally corollas. To my knowledge the 20v 4AGE was never put in any cars in america, however the oldschool 16v 4AGE motor was used mostly in the 84(?)-89 corolla gts(?)

[IchibanDoriftu]

I guess this would go out to Mr20valve more than anyone, but here goes. 4AGE is an engine code. There are at least 10 different 4AGE engines out there, all that came in toyota corollas and i think and mr2. The hachi-roku came with an oldschool 4AGE, hachi go with like a 4CGE or something like that(not sure). The latest 4AGE engine came in a silvertop and a blacktop, the blacktop produces ~155bhp, and the silvertop produces ~160bhp. Both of these motors are 20valve and they only came in the japanese corollas 93-97(once again not sure about the years) the 4AGE is the flagship motor of Toyota, and it was used in one of the rally corollas. To my knowledge the 20v 4AGE was never put in any cars in america, however the oldschool 16v 4AGE motor was used mostly in the 84(?)-89 corolla gts(?)

[Al]

Actually a US car did come with the 20v motors. But it wasn't a toyota... It was the Geo Storm GSi. And only for 2 years or I think maybe even one.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Al
Actually a US car did come with the 20v motors. But it wasn't a toyota... It was the Geo Storm GSi. And only for 2 years or I think maybe even one.

there was no 20v, it was a 4agelu 16v high comp, map.

[RS13 240SX]

What techniques I use? Well it depends on the situation. How fast your going, the angle your approaching, the angle that your actually drifting in, angle of the road, the type of road, etc. etc. Well for me, there is no "one" single technique I use. I use strings of techniques. Sometimes I use shift lock on turns, studder cut, or whatever I feel like doing. It may sound corny to some of you but it depends on what mood I'm in. I NEVER USE THE E-BRAKE. I'm practicing drifting without the use of the side brake. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with using it it's just that I have more fun learning other ways of inducing drifts besides the side brake. Using the side brake gets too easy or boring for ME. Sometimes the techniques you use varies with the car your driving. When I drive my brothers BoroHachi I don't use the same techniques I use in my 240sx. The two cars behave differntly thus the difference in drifting techniques.

1989 Nissan 240sx Fastback SE
Cusco Front OS STB
Cusco Rear AS STB
Whiteline Front Adjustable Stabilizer bar
Eibach Sportilines

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by IchibanDoriftu
I guess this would go out to Mr20valve more than anyone, but here goes. 4AGE is an engine code. There are at least 10 different 4AGE engines out there, all that came in toyota corollas and i think and mr2. The hachi-roku came with an oldschool 4AGE, hachi go with like a 4CGE or something like that(not sure). The latest 4AGE engine came in a silvertop and a blacktop, the blacktop produces ~155bhp, and the silvertop produces ~160bhp. Both of these motors are 20valve and they only came in the japanese corollas 93-97(once again not sure about the years) the 4AGE is the flagship motor of Toyota, and it was used in one of the rally corollas. To my knowledge the 20v 4AGE was never put in any cars in america, however the oldschool 16v 4AGE motor was used mostly in the 84(?)-89 corolla gts(?)


um, dude...

i know exactly what a 4AGE is.... i guess you failed to notice the sarcasm in mine & Rich's replies.... :D

you think i call myself "Mr 20Valve" just because it sounds cool? :confused:



i previously had a large port, low-comp, blue top (or whatever the f**k else you wanna call it) 4AGE in my AE-86 before it spun a bearing & i replaced it with a silvertop 20V 4AGE.... so ytes, i know what a 4AGE is. ;)



but anyways, thanks for the kind thoughts & trying to steer people in the right direction. :)

[Al]

Ahh I see... My bad. I thought it was the 20valve.

[Mr 20Valve]

the only place the 20V was released other than Japan though Toyota dealerships was South Africa....

[Rich]

lol, I think that Mr 20v knows his shit... or we like to think so.

and the "hachi-go" AE85 never came with a 4a at all, it was powered by a 2t-c. The USDM AE86 has the 4a-c, and the USDM AE88 has the 4a-ge.

[Mr 20Valve]

Rich,

in Japan, the 'Hachi Go' AE-85 was powered by a 3A-U, not a 2T-C. it was a fireball 1.5L SOHC carby-fed POS.

if the car was powered by a T series engine, the chassis code would be TE-85, not AE-85.

but youre 100% correct in saying that the AE-85 never came with a 4A in it.

:D

[IchibanDoriftu]

Well, not that we all know I don't have a sense of humor :D As i tried to say in my post, I know the general history of the engine, not trying to be smart or anything:rolleyes:

[mixmastatez]

just checking my history of the hachi in australia
-the sprinter was sold new there, but was levin shaped?
-the GTS/GT Apex/GTV was sold from the factory?

[Mr 20Valve]

yes, the hachi was sold here in Australia as a 'Sprinter', and came only with the Levin front end (fixed headlights) and in hatchback shape....

funny thing is that it also came with Trueno taillights... quite the opposite to the US who only got the Trueno front end (flip-up headlights) and Levin taillights. go figure! :confused:


i didnt know NZ had the GTV & GT Apex on sale from the factory either.

[mixmastatez]

no, we never got the AE86 in any shape or form as far as i know
however the AE85 is common, not sure if sold new or not, but its not worth trying to convert one of those nasty things.

[Mr 20Valve]

how do you figure that tez?

the AE-85 is basically the same spec as the Aussie delivered Sprinter. Although our Sprinter was an AE-86 chassis code, it only came with a 4A-C, no LSD & crap brakes... a lot closer to an AE-85 than you would imagine.

so basically what ive done is convert my car from AE-86 Aus-spec (which is closer to an AE-85) to AE-86 JDM spec with an LSD, Jap-spec T-50, FC3S front brakes etc etc etc, so it can definately be done, and its definately worth it in the end... ;)

[mixmastatez]

from what i've seen on club4AG the AE85 and the SR5 AE86 are really different from a mechanical point of view, i was originally gonna 20 valve or GZE an AE85 sprinter hatch, but i dont have teh faith in my own abilities to drive something i've fitted an engine to myself
i'm getting either an AE85 or a KP61 as a beater for at uni- a mate got a bottle thrown at his supra breaking the back light assembly by a drunk guy. not a good place to drive my panel-beated AW11 around.
not sure which though... suggestions?

[Mr 20Valve]

wouldnt the KP61 be even harder to find parts for than the AE-86 though??? (or AE-85, whatever)

[mixmastatez]

i've played with the 4K a lot and its a pretty good engine for working with, its pretty popular for 0-1300cc class rallying and autocross, which is probably what i'd do with a starlet, the AE86 makes a lot of appearances in targa rallying though.

okay, what suspension are you using? my worries are suspension and drivetrain if i go for the AE85, what else can i source a t50+LSD from?

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by mixmastatez
okay, what suspension are you using? my worries are suspension and drivetrain if i go for the AE85, what else can i source a t50+LSD from?

suspension consists of:

K-Mac springs (i cant remember the rate, ive got the details at home) front & rear

K-Mac short-stroke shocks front & rear

K-Mac 27mm front swaybar

K-Mac 22mm rear swaybar

alloy roll centre adjusters under the front struts

Nolathane steereing bushes & front suspension bushes (rear bushes are still rubber)

Whiteline adjustable panhard rod (diff lateral control arm)

Whiteline strut-tower brace


if youre wondering why ive got mostly K-Mac stuff, the factory is about 6 blocks from my house... :D

have you got any wreckers near you? i dont know if it would be worth getting a T50 & LSD imported from here, because your dollar is worth even less than ours at the moment... a place called SSS Automotive here in Sydney would have the box & diff, but they aint all that cheap. ring around & see what you come up with...


you could always go & steal an AE-86 GTV off someone you dont like & strip their car for all the bits you need... :D:D:D :D:D

[mixmastatez]

while we dont have initial d boppers trying to get hold of the AE86 here, they are definately more than popular enough compard to supply among people who know what they are, so even parts arent easy to come by. i have tried to buy AE86's in the street from their owners and they dont even consider selling them!

the t50 is AE86 only, right? i am just looking for a project/beater, the MR2 isnt exactly a grass-lover and the tyres are much to expensive to go swinging its arse all over the place.
your car was originally carbed, so new fuel tank right? im gonna consider the red-hat swap, i think i'm going to be able to get the engine cheaply.

thanks

[Mr 20Valve]

yeah, originally carby...

i dropped in an EFI tank out of a Levin... still surges like a bitch though. :D

[mixmastatez]

okay, on your recommendation i'm going to go look at an AE85 sprinter hatch this afternoon... any specific problems to look for?
if i buy it im just looking at decent shocks, strut tower braces, swaybars and 13x8s- leave engine replacement for a while, the MR2 needs its panel & paint done still...

[Mr 20Valve]

only specific problems i can think of is rust....

rust kills these fuckin things around here.

if the motor's in reasonable health & will get you around for a while, then it should be fine... youll be replacing it sooner or later. ;)

[mixmastatez]

was rusty, multicolored and beaten up, 2nd ggear synchro dying, what a piece... now i have to wait for next weeks trade & exchange, the other AE85- a levin coupe- is sold.

[Mr 20Valve]

yeah, sounds like you should wait for a better one to come along...

what is it with New Zealanders mis-treating their cars??? :p

[mixmastatez]

we get cars from japan that have never had a fuel filter change, high comp engines that have been run from new on low-octane gas, and once most people realise that they stop looking after the thing. holdens and fords rust because we have so much coastline, and most of our cities are right on the coast, plus a lot of new zealanders are simply stupid, and dont stop to think about how to not destroy their cars. it was kinda sad though, the poor thing never deserved to be treated like that- speaking of mistreating cars, i abused a hachi driver last night, for the first time i had no respect for a hachi driver, it was a sad moment.

i saw it was a panda GTV Trueno coupe with tinted windows as it passed me on the street. shortly after it came back the other way, i was shocked and abused the driver at the lights. it had been lowered to around 60mm of ground clearance with ridiculous flares sticking out 2" over hotwires with either a huge offset or really big spacers, to the point that it didnt look like the wheels would turn to full lock. and on top of the rest, the two guys in the car were smoking, and to me smoking in a car is disrespectful. he just sat in his car, with his baseball cap over his eyes and pretended not to see or hear me as i ranted about how he had raped one of the few respectable japanese cars of the 80s. i have to get an AE85 now, fit the GZE or 20v and go spank him. he probably doesnt even show up anywhere anyone can race him, like a classic poser.
sorry to rant, but it made me sick.

[smoklotabuda]

CAN U DRIFFT WIT A AUTO

[XiaoMing]

Originally posted by smoklotabuda
CAN U DRIFFT WIT A AUTO

Yes.

[Mr 20Valve]

Originally posted by XiaoMing


Yes.


but why would you want to? :confused: