Which bike is better for beginner?

[VMSTurboA4]

I'm looking into an F4 or a GSXR-600. Which is better for me. And where can i find classes for riding so i can get my license? Thanx

[Angel5]

Depends on how long you've been riding, what your skill level is at, and which bike you feel more comfortable on. If you're just a beginnner then do not get one of those bikes at all. They're way too quick for ya. Start off with something that you can handle and improve upon your skills with, then move up to the bigger and badder bikes. Skills come before speed, no need for you to get killed.

And go down to your local DMV and they should be able to give you tons of info on how and where to get your license.

[sac racer]

dont even consider a gixxer or f4, cuz thats too much heat. if you can handle 600, start with a yzf, fzr, or maybe an older cbr. a dude i work with bought a brand new f4i, left it in his garage for 5 months, finally took his safety course, then dumped it. that is what starting too big will get you (being 5'4" didnt help either).

[VMSTurboA4]

like wut cc class should i start with...i was thinking of buyin off my friends F2 to learn but think its still 600cc.

[fireblade_rr]

Well i have been riding since i was 12 now 23 my first sport type bike was a 89 kaw zx600r which is really a sport cruiser. i did not learn much with this bike except that it was more dangerous to push a bike threw turns at speeds it really should not go. couldn't get real good tires (bias-ply) chassis sucked, ect ect.

then got a F3 awesome bike! learned more on that one bike then all the other bikes i have owned. very confidence inspiring and stable. was able to do one hand knee drags that how stable! but it also depends on what type of riding you want to do. i say get a F3! F2's are good but the suspension is not as good as the F3!

i don't think anybody should have less than 600cc when on the road. sometimes you need the power to get out of the way! this is just my opinion others will feel different.


hth
watch out for the other guy!

[fireblade_rr]

ooh and the more you ride the better you get.why because you learn the feel of your bike plain and simple! don't buy a bike and let it sit for five months. and just because you take a safety course or any type of schooling will keep you from falling!

[VMSTurboA4]

that i should start on 600cc or lower. I want to get the hang of it so i just thought it would be good to stay with 600cc so i start off learning out it rides and so forth.

[Wolf]

Have you ridden before? If not, you'll probably want to start on something small (non-crotchrocket). The Honda Nighthawk, Suzuki GS500 or SV650 are all good beginner bikes.

[fireblade_rr]

i'm saying stick to a 600 not smaller.
i don't think anybody should have LESS than 600cc when on the road! with exceptions! (cbr 400)!!!!! (TZ's)

as for a sv650 for a beginner bike i would not suggest a bit on the torque-e side! if you happen to get on the throttle hard the front will come up real fast.

Stick to a in-line four less torque , more linear power and smooth. it wont get out of hand as fast as a twin. SV's are great bikes but you need to have good throttle control this is were the F3 or F2 will teach you.

like i said before just my opinion!

[Angel5]

I think the GS500E is a great bike to learn on. Nice, even-tempered power delivery and good ride height. The SV650/SV650S is good for someone who wants something a little quicker, but not all out crazy. I love that bike so much.
CC's matter, but not a whole lot these days. A bandit 1200 has 98hp, and a GSXR-600 has 102hp, see what I mean? Just start out on something you can handle. A well-riden SV650S can keep up with a Ninja ZX7R that's being ridden by a "newbie" through the twisties.

Just please don't go all out when you're first starting. Hayabusas are tempting and all, but they're insane. I just don't want to hear about another guy become road paint. :D

[Wolf]

Get something cheap small and used. ride it for a 6months-1 year then trade up. Don't try to get something super fast when you're just starting up. You can find stories all over the internet of people who bought R1s and the like as their 1st bikes, then wrecked them a couple months later and ended up in the hospital.

[VMSTurboA4]

Aiight....i will look into those bikes that u guys recommend....i wanna get my classes done b4 the summer ends, so at least i have my license and can start practicing for next summer.

[mrhello]

For starters there are several other older threads that tackle this same issue, go to them and you will find a bit more info.

I always recommend people start on something old and cheap. Not only is it cheaper, but sometimes cycles are not for everyone. They get them thinking its going to be all badasss and fun, but then find out,"hey i dont like bikes, theyre fast dangerous and you cant carry stuff."So now theyre out all of the money they spent on the new f4i, r6 or what have you.

Another issue is the power. But I think what it really comes down to is this. If someone is the type of person that thinks they NEED to have a gsxr750 or r1 for a first bike, chances are theyre a poser, idiot or both. Thats the simple truth. If you come into the sport thinking, hey im going to be the ruffest rYder of them all, well you usually dont last too long.

But, conversely, a guy with no brains can easily kill himself on a 250 ninja. You can hurt yourself on any bike, it is all in the self control and attitude. The guys who come into bikes asking good questions and wanting to learn and limit themselves do well. They're not afraid to start on an old f2 or standard.

The guys who think they have to be a starboy or ruff ryder on a "insert newest fastest bike here", do stupid stuff because, well they're stupid.

The common mistakes of a new rider are these 2 things:
1. Too fast for a corner, go wide because they are too scared to lean, panic and grab the front brake while going upright, and then over shooting the turn into either a: runoff road and lowsiding, or b: running wide into a stationary object i.e. a pole and suffering fatal or serious wounds.

2. Or they are going too fastfor the road and cannot stop in time for the light/car that cut them off/ another biker/etc and they panic, grab a handful of front brake and lose the front end, thus either:
a: lowsiding and going down, if lucky they dont run into anything while flailing on the road.
b: highsiding once the rear gains traction and being flung off and either hitting a stationary object, or flying and then smashing into the ground (very bad and can be fatal).
c: or unfortunately they go right into the object they were avoiding, car/pole/erc. and often suffering fatal injuries.


This is directed to no one and everyone. Think about what you want in a bike, and why you want to ride. If you just want to be in it for a minute, find another sport.
But if you want to enjoy the road and the fun of riding, come on and learn.

[Mike]

Way to lay it down for the newbies! :p And there nothing wrong with ridin an F2!;)

[silude]

learn on a moped, isnt that what you take the test with? i know when i got my license i saw 2 big harley guys on a lil moped weaving through cones

[Mike]

I totally agree with Import Hater...although I do get a good laugh every time I see a new rider tryin to look cool on his oversized ego-compensating bike. The other day I saw a Gixxer 1000,and my buddy told him to pull one up. So the guy attempts to pop the clutch in FIRST GEAR!!! We couldnt stop laughing at his ass...:eek:

[ZX6R]

Originally posted by mike
The other day I saw a Gixxer 1000,and my buddy told him to pull one up. So the guy attempts to pop the clutch in FIRST GEAR!!! We couldnt stop laughing at his ass...:eek:
That's fricken hillarious!

Anyway, everyone has there opinions on a "beginner bike" if that's what you want than any ex500, gs550 or small bike is great. In my personal case my "first bike" was my ZX-6R and I wouldn't want anything else. I used to the break in period to get to know the bike and learn how to ride. As long as you take it easy and don't try poppin the clutch in first gear you should be fine. I know quite a few people that got 600's for there first bikes and looped them, always doing stupid shit, but I know more people that got 600's and havent had any problem. Read everyone's opinions but the bike is going to be yours and buy what's going to be the most comfortable for yourself.

[scourge]

If you try stupid shit all the time, you'll wreck a Ninja 250 just as easy as a Gixxer 600. I wanted a Laverda 750S which is a parallel twin. Stock 92 hp and easily over 100hp with just a few goodies. Now, even on such a bike a person can ride slow and easy in secluded areas to begin with to familiarize himself with the characteristics of the bike. Now, get around your frinds or try and show off...........Hello, insurance man?

Now, I can't get any bike as I'm movig to Japan in September! Oh well, when I get back.:)


Scourge