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spinnin
06-15-2005, 03:08 PM
I know skyline's are like the livestrong bracelets now, everyone wants them because they're a fad. However having said that they have a lot more potential then 92-95 hatch with a b16 in it. Just curious to hear some opinions on them specifically 89/90 R32 gts-t's. Here are the two I'm interested in--> http://www.cannonball-r.com/1002.html and this one http://www.cannonball-r.com/1006.html
Are they a problem waiting to happen? If it's not godzilla then it's gonna be some sort of hybrid hatch
in my opinion. skylines are more work than they are worth. you can buy cars that will compete with them and you wont have to hassel with making them US legal. they are def cool cars, just not my cup of tea. get a used Z06.
if your in japan or the UK then getting a skyline is cool
but here in the US they are to heavy/slow for the price
ShadyMilkman
06-15-2005, 11:45 PM
I've been saying this for years. Skylines are the most overrated cars around.
Exactly how is a Skyline overrated? Do they not reproduce published numbers? Can not the RB26DETT in the GTR versions of the 90s generations produce well over 800 hp on the stock internals and barely break a sweat at 1000? Overrated? Or a car that could pretty much everything pretty well? It's not like an NSX or S2000 where it takes a special driver to come close to published numbers because the power band is so wacky. Sure now, if you're a dumbass and look at the split "Skyline" badged cars (Infiniti G35 cars) as the same thing as the Skyline series from the 90s, then yeah, the current generation is overrated by a strong history ... but it's not the same line anymore ... and the Nissan GTR is coming. Yes, they're a bit heavy in full-trim ... but so is your mom.
The R32 is my favorite Skyline series. Lovely muscular boxy look, but not out of hand ... nice and clean. And the R32 GTS-t just might be my favorite of all of them. Mmmm ... RWD.
G_Fish240
06-16-2005, 08:06 AM
gts-t are ok, nothing special. Even though RB20 are inline 6, they produce the same HP and a little less TQ @10 psi then a SR20 does at 7 psi. Those prices are way to high, those cars in japan can be had for 1500-3000 depending on mods. Those prices are what R32 GT-R's go for in Japan. I love the body style though but, but gts-t's arent worth that much.
spinnin
06-16-2005, 08:18 AM
Those are Canadian prices and that's what they all seem to be going for up here. Apparently in Canada you can't have a skyline new then 15 years old which blows. I like how these are rwd though, still just not work the coin?
OMFG it's a Skyrine!
Hah, if you can afford spare parts when it breaks, sure go for it.
spinnin
06-16-2005, 10:06 AM
Is there much potential with the RB20 motor? or is it pretty much upgrade the turbo before any decent numbers can be achieved
max_misawa
06-17-2005, 02:26 AM
RB20 is okay but you will probably want to Swap in a RB25
for 1500 bucks for a Rb20 i would say thats a cool car to get
i know you can get a 240SX for cheap but the prices for SR20's is just plain stupid
how could a SR20 cost more than a LS1 from a CAMARO SS???
Max
ryans
06-17-2005, 07:55 AM
If you like the looks then go for it. It's not going to be a fast car out the box but they have potential. HP costs money. It has a cool styling and with a few mods it can be made to look even better. If it's a car you can afford, you might be kicking your ass if you get something else...and always dream about that car.
The og's remember Chiga and his R33. It was fast and everyone jocked it. He told me he had a R32 in Japan and he was hitting 170MPH on the Wangan in it. He prefered the R32 because it was a lighter car. He might have had an RB26DETT in it. I"m not sure though.
333racer
06-17-2005, 11:15 AM
man there are alot of morons on here....get your heads out of your ass and get off the skyline hating band wagon.
and for some real info....
in my opinion if you're gonna go with an R32 get a GTR model. although it's not as flashy as a new one the R32 GTR is one of the most under estimated cars out there. they are a great base to build from, the lighter body and RB26 are a great combo. the GTS-T is pretty good but like it was stated, the engine is a little weak, the money you put into it could be used to buy the GTR.
that's what i would do if i was interested in a skyline. either way great cars, and i'm willing to bet you'll be happy with it either way.
spinnin
06-17-2005, 12:23 PM
man there are alot of morons on here....get your heads out of your ass and get off the skyline hating band wagon.
and for some real info....
in my opinion if you're gonna go with an R32 get a GTR model. although it's not as flashy as a new one the R32 GTR is one of the most under estimated cars out there. they are a great base to build from, the lighter body and RB26 are a great combo. the GTS-T is pretty good but like it was stated, the engine is a little weak, the money you put into it could be used to buy the GTR.
that's what i would do if i was interested in a skyline. either way great cars, and i'm willing to bet you'll be happy with it either way.
Okay so all the GTR skyline's come with the RB26? I thought it was just the AWD. I think I would prefer the RWD, gonna have to look into my cost on the RB26 motor. For the R32 is there an RB26DETT and RB26DET?
333racer
06-17-2005, 02:24 PM
pretty sure all rb26's are twin turbo. and i also believe all GTR's are AWD. i'm not a skyline expert.
just curious, why would you prefer RWD instead of AWD?
GTR=AWD and RB26dett@ around 280HP
GT-S=RWD and RB25DET around 250ish HP
i know there is a base model with an RB20 both na and i think turbo
G_Fish240
06-17-2005, 09:58 PM
RB20 is okay but you will probably want to Swap in a RB25
for 1500 bucks for a Rb20 i would say thats a cool car to get
i know you can get a 240SX for cheap but the prices for SR20's is just plain stupid
how could a SR20 cost more than a LS1 from a CAMARO SS???
Max
what? LS1 crate motors are like 4100 + sr20's are 2500
max_misawa
06-17-2005, 10:01 PM
what? LS1 crate motors are like 4100 + sr20's are 2500
Ure an idiot
you are comapring a USED SR20 to a NEW LS1
a USED LS1 can be had for 1500+ easy
check craigslist bro
A crate SR20DET can go for over 50K easy
Ask HKS about a "Crate" SR20
Max
yozsi
06-17-2005, 11:44 PM
is there such thing as a "crate" engine sr20det?
is there such thing as a "crate" engine sr20det?
See the post above yours.
ShadyMilkman
06-18-2005, 02:16 AM
I'm still waiting to hear why Skyline's aren't overrated...
I'm sorry but you can't base a car's ability on it's potential. Granted it might be easier to get power out of a GTR than an S2000; but that doesn't mean shit; I could make a lawn mower go fast given enough time and money.
I mean, otherwise I just see a mildly quick, unrefined, overpriced sedan being raised to the level of a real sports car. HP and Torque numbers are nothing special; it's handling is ok for what it is but again nothing special; and moreover, it's overall balance and performace as a total package are lackluster (note: a car's total performance is more than just it's 1/2 mile time and lateral g). Again, maybe i'm missing something huge; but I'm definitely not impressed.
Also, i'm not saying it's a bad car by any means, i mean, it definitely has some go to it; but it's definitely not a truely amazing automobile, nor is it even the best thing to come out of japan.
333racer
06-18-2005, 08:20 AM
what generation skyline are you talking about??? cause a R32 is far from over rated. a R33 and R34 i could understand. those cars are hyped up so bad it's not funny, granted they turn great numbers in both straight line speed and on the road courses, but they cost an arm and a leg due to the hype of it being a skyline. and just about car is based on it's potential, the majority of people don't buy a car to race and just leave it stock. you have to factor in how easy it will be to modify and what kinda of gains you'll get.
the R32 GTR some how got spared the skyline hype cause they produce similar times to the R33 and R34, yet cost less than half that of the other cars. the R32 is still realitively unknown here in the states. so care to tell me why it's still over rated??
Skyline is like the NSX (sorry Ryan i have to go there). Well at least in the states. Very expensive, good specs, but not compared to the pice and availablity.
It's basically Japan's Corvette, but with a different heritage. The skyline IS very hyped up even though its a very good car. It's got one of the most advanced AWD system's on the planet, a lot of torque for an engine less than 3.0L, a vailable in a wide variety of flavors, and the motor is a pretty beefy motor.
If I lived in japan, I'd buy a skyline. But not in the US.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0505_scc_skyline/
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Fastback33
06-18-2005, 04:36 PM
for 13,8 i'd buy it.
For 13,8 I'd buy someone's project 5.0 and blow it's doors off.
Eh, don't be so quick to underestimate turbo nissians....and blow its doors off in what?
STiRallyRacer
06-19-2005, 01:23 AM
seriously though, skylines are good cars, just overrated, especially the r33's and r34's. i'd use an example of a domestic that's overrated like the skyline but i don't know shit about those... so... anybody got one? lol
Overrated?
Um, I'd say basically modular ford V8's in GT's. Overrated in the sense that people feel that since it's a V8, it's going to destroy everything. But most people just bolt on a supercharger and make 350hp to call it a day. Thats what I can say as overrated, not saying they're bad cars, just hyped.
Then came the Cobra, and things changed.
ShadyMilkman
06-19-2005, 11:47 AM
Skyline is like the NSX (sorry Ryan i have to go there). Well at least in the states. Very expensive, good specs, but not compared to the pice and availablity.
It's basically Japan's Corvette, but with a different heritage. The skyline IS very hyped up even though its a very good car. It's got one of the most advanced AWD system's on the planet, a lot of torque for an engine less than 3.0L, a vailable in a wide variety of flavors, and the motor is a pretty beefy motor.
If I lived in japan, I'd buy a skyline. But not in the US.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0505_scc_skyline/
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That article basically said that the NISMO Skyline is the greatest car ever built :::watches credibility fly out the window:::
Again, im still waiting to hear why Skylines aren't overrated. Pretty much every legitimate review (not some shitty import magazine) says that the skyline is a good car; but that it's overrated (again, these people are driving the car as it comes from the dealer). It has power- but not that much; it can go around corners- but not in a way that would blow the doors off anything else; and it can stop, but not the most quickly. There is more to driving a car the numbers it puts out- and it's overall feel as a car has failed to impress.
Saying a Skyline shits on the absolute best roadcars ever made is simply ignorance.
333racer
06-19-2005, 12:17 PM
^^^^ that's right, it's not the greatest in every category, but it's good in all of them. it's a well balanced car.
^^^^ that's right, it's not the greatest in every category, but it's good in all of them. it's a well balanced car.
thats like saying a person getting all c in school is well balanced.
its just a good car..not a great one. with a bunch of money it can be really fast.
but most cars can
spinnin
06-19-2005, 06:57 PM
for 13,8 i'd buy it.
Thank you , I was basically looking for an answer on what that particular car is worth. I don't think anybody really looked at the link, the motor is the RB20DET. I have faith in being able to modify to get good enough power/handling for what I need it to do.
As fat as AWD vs. RWD, the fun factor has a lot to do with it, as well as the issue of repairs, granted I can do a lot for very little cost I just think if I'm mashing on it I can save myself some coin with the RWD.
Oh yeah and for drifting....damn I didn't want to say it.
G_Fish240
06-19-2005, 11:02 PM
thats like saying a person getting all c in school is well balanced.
its just a good car..not a great one. with a bunch of money it can be really fast.
but most cars can
Skylines are extremly over hyped in the states but they are good cars, especially the R32 GTR
"In 1991 the Skyline R32 GTR was introduced to Australian Touring Car Championships and was extremely successful. It was given the nickname “Godzilla”, deservedly so as it destroyed everything which opposed it. Through 1991 and 1992 the GTR won every single race in the Touring Car Championship and were consequently forced to add 150 kg of weight and had their boost restricted to 1.3 bar boost – THEY STILL WON! Because of its outstanding performance and reliability there was just no competition for the GTR’s so they were banned from racing altogether."
GetawayPorsche
07-01-2005, 04:54 AM
I've been saying this for years. Skylines are the most overrated cars around.
That was my opinion untill I rode along in a 650 bhp R33 GTR a couple of weeks ago.
I think the Skylines are pretty boring stock but i is easy o get a lot of power out of them compared to many other cars (the GTR versions that is)
Don't have very high thoughts for the GTS
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