new Car to fear 2002 Honda Integra type R

[TFM]

The new Eclipse seems weak
the honda civic lost it's edge
240sx is gone
ford focus is kinda weak
the sentra SE-R is gong to be weak (same engine as new altima)

probably the best new car besides WRX
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[Mike777]

Tight i might think about buying a honda.

mike

[SE-Rage]

Originally posted by TFM

the sentra SE-R is gong to be weak (same engine as new altima)


I don't know if the QR25DE is going to be in the Altima, so I guess I'll have to refer to you, but just because the QR is in the Altima doesn't make the engine weak. So if they put the SR20DET in a Maxima, does that mean that Silvia's are weak? This argument doesn't make any sense. There's no replacement for displacement, and although the new SE-R will still only have 4 cylinders NA, it is 2.5 liters, which is considerable. From those 2.5 liters, it will get 180 hp along with 180 pounds of torque. The estimated price range is from 18k to 21k, which I believe is cheaper than those GSR's. It's already beaten the current Type R around the track, weighs in at I believe 2600 pounds. It's a 6 speed and it also comes with a helical limited slip differential. The QR25, although larger in displacement than the SR20DE, is also significantly lighter than the SR.

I'm not saying that the new SE-R nor the QR25DE is the best thing since sliced bread, but both are far from weak.

[CoNFuSioUs2002]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TFM
the sentra SE-R is gong to be weak (same engine as new altima)

I have to disagree with you on that one. The vspec is supposed to have 180hp, 180foot pounds of torque, lsd and a 6 speed. With the torque at 180, that is a lot more than what honda's make. I think that is a great deal for the 20k, they are claiming it will fall under.

[CoNFuSioUs2002]

Originally posted by SE-Rage
Originally posted by TFM

the sentra SE-R is gong to be weak (same engine as new altima)


I don't know if the QR25DE is going to be in the Altima, so I guess I'll have to refer to you, but just because the QR is in the Altima doesn't make the engine weak. So if they put the SR20DET in a Maxima, does that mean that Silvia's are weak? This argument doesn't make any sense. There's no replacement for displacement, and although the new SE-R will still only have 4 cylinders NA, it is 2.5 liters, which is considerable. From those 2.5 liters, it will get 180 hp along with 180 pounds of torque. The estimated price range is from 18k to 21k, which I believe is cheaper than those GSR's. It's already beaten the current Type R around the track, weighs in at I believe 2600 pounds. It's a 6 speed and it also comes with a helical limited slip differential. The QR25, although larger in displacement than the SR20DE, is also significantly lighter than the SR.

I'm not saying that the new SE-R nor the QR25DE is the best thing since sliced bread, but both are far from weak. LOL, you beat me to it

[TFM]

my bad i thought it was 140 lbs of torque.... Sentras are cool... but it would be cooler that have a G25 SE-R, G20's look cooler..infinity line-up

I35
Q45


the G25 is missing.....

and yeah i read in autoweek and car and driver the Altima is gonna have two engines... one being a 3.5 litre 240 hp 6, and the other the 2.5 litre 180 4.

[aSiaNdoboI]

isnt that car not named integra its called like rx something
well isnt the q 45 v8 like 347 hp?

[Jay]

the Subaru WRX is the same price or cheeper than an ITR and has MUCH better preformance...and has gobs of tuning capabilaty, due to the turbo motor and the AWD...Honda is on its way out

[Death is TV]

What the hell is that thing? It looks like the space shuttle! The DC2 Chassis is the best design, that's why it stuck around for so long, even EDMUNDS.com and ROAD&TRACK call the 94-01 Integra one of the best cars EVER. The new Integra (RSX) is for riceboys. The suspension on the new Integra is going to suck. Booo! The Lancer is coming out in a year, the WRX is already out, and the Supra, RX-8 and RX-7 (that's right Riceboys! the RX-8 is NOT the replacement!) and the new Z are coming back. in 2003 that Type R is going to be what the Si is now. All Hype, no performance. Remember, this is coming from a Honda fan. 240SX is gone? Good riddance, that piece of shit

[Ren-Tech]

isnt that things specs pretty close to the type R around here now? thats not too much to fear IMO.

also jay and Death is TV are right. the other japanese manufacturers are bringin some of their more potent and newer machines to the states so maybe ppl will start to "see the light" heh, and realize that a lot of hondas (not all) arent really that powerfull compared to the other cars.

as far as pure power from stock form goes honda is going to fall way behind while youve got other forced induction, awd, or both passing it up.

"the honda civic lost it's edge " not trying to start a flame or anything man, but what edge? performance edge?

maybe honda should look into doing some kind of "FI" to the integra kinda like the celica all-trac's, i dunno.

[ghoust]

I have to agree with your statement about the 240SX there death is TV. They should have never put that car in the market if it wasnt going to have the SR20DE engine in it. And it certainly should not have had a truck engine in there! WTF was up with that?! Sometimes, automakers just amaze me.

[FTR ALL MOTOR]

looks like a 95 prelude and a dodge neon mutant

[NismoRyder]

Originally posted by Death is TV
240SX is gone? Good riddance, that piece of shit

sorry...i wouldnt call it a piece of shit...yea i kno its not the fastest car in the world...but it handles like its on rails...240's are always seen whooping cars that care 50x faster in the twisties....

and its got hella potential...awsome chasis/suspension...but it can haul ass with an SR20DET (one of the greatest engines IMHO) or a turbo'ed KA

[NismoRyder]

Originally posted by Lilghoust
I have to agree with your statement about the 240SX there death is TV. They should have never put that car in the market if it wasnt going to have the SR20DE engine in it. And it certainly should not have had a truck engine in there! WTF was up with that?! Sometimes, automakers just amaze me.

i dont like how Nissan put the KA24DE in a 240...but just to clear things up...everyone keeps saying it has a "truck engine"...the KA was first used in a Stanza...so the trucks have a sedan engine...people should be asking "why did they put a sedan engine in a truck?" not "why a truck engine in a 240?"

just clarifying sum misconceptions...

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Death is TV
The Lancer is coming out in a year, the WRX is already out

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this new Lancer just going to be a spruced-up Mirage with the Lancer name? That's not exactly anything to boast about. Someone posted a thread about this earlier and said that Mitsubishi has no plans to bring the Evo VII to the US, not even some sort of turbocharged variant, :(.

As for the WRX ... I was browsing through my newest issue of Road & Track, and in their section with all the 1/4 times for various cars, the new WRX beats out the Porsche Boxster and only costs $24,000 while doing it! LOL, stupid, rich Porsche guys. I'd love to pull up to one of them and beat them in a WRX. Long live AWD!

[jesse]

why does the 2k2 integ have honda logos on it, and not acura logos? does acura not have anything to do with this new model?

[LT WHAT?]

the WRX is the only 4 banger i've ever even given a second glance. if i could afford it, i would have one for rally racing.

[iluva juicytwat]

Originally posted by jesse
why does the 2k2 integ have honda logos on it, and not acura logos? does acura not have anything to do with this new model?

if u look at the steering coloumn its on the right side so thats the jap version. i think tthat car is ugly pos space shuttle lookin. itll take me hella long to get used to that ugly design. kinda reminds me of a miny version of a dodge intrepid or some shit.

[Death is TV]

Originally posted by NismoRyder
Originally posted by Death is TV
240SX is gone? Good riddance, that piece of shit

sorry...i wouldnt call it a piece of shit...yea i kno its not the fastest car in the world...but it handles like its on rails...240's are always seen whooping cars that care 50x faster in the twisties....

and its got hella potential...awsome chasis/suspension...but it can haul ass with an SR20DET (one of the greatest engines IMHO) or a turbo'ed KA

I was talking about the USDM 240SX. If I was implying the JDM one (sylvia) then I wouldn't say "good riddance"
duhhh :rolleyes:

[NaVamous]

Hmmm...interesting design, it's suppose to be a cross between a Honda and an integ? Weird concept, when is this suppose to hit the U.S market? Whats the specs on this also? Price tag?

[DVS2all]

Originally posted by Daniel
As for the WRX ... I was browsing through my newest issue of Road & Track, and in their section with all the 1/4 times for various cars, the new WRX beats out the Porsche Boxster and only costs $24,000 while doing it! LOL, stupid, rich Porsche guys. I'd love to pull up to one of them and beat them in a WRX. Long live AWD!

The other 4 cyl car that beat out the Boxter S was the Honda S2000. Why pay $60k for a name when you can get somethin just as good or better for less than half the price. Thats what I told my dad since he is lookin at the Boxter. Stupid old people don't know shit about cars today. But they could tell ya all about cars back in the day from the 50's-70's eras.

I showed him the WRX..."Too young looking and sporty"...I was like WTF?...and you want a Boxter? Stupid people I swear. If I had my choice...I would either buy the new WRX, or wait for the Evo VII.

[TFM]

I seen a white WRX at De Anza and trust me it's pretty damn ugly looking.. looks like one of them korean cars kinda like the Kia Rio or soemthing..although the Subaru WRX is pretty cool, the RSX type R is gonna match right up there.

I believe it's going to have around 200-220 hp and the handling will be as good if not better than the previous type R.

as for these new japanese sports cars you guys keep talking about....

RX-8
Supra
Evo VII

they will be about $30,000 or more.

the lancer is just a renamed Mirage... they are considering bringing the Evo 7 but.... who wants to buy a 30,000 Econobox???

the cars that will be out in the next couple years are

2003 Acura NSX 400hp V-8 $80,000-150,000 or so
2001 WRX 227hp Turbo $25,000
2002 Sentra SE-R 180hp 2.5liter around $20,000
2002 Civic Si 160hp 2.0 liter $18,000
2002 Acura RSX S 200hp 2.0 liter $23-25k
2002 Focus SVT 170hp 2.0 liter $19,000
2002 Lancer Rally 120hp ?????? $14,000

[Silvia S14]

Originally posted by TFM


the lancer is just a renamed Mirage... they are considering bringing the Evo 7 but.... who wants to buy a 30,000 Econobox???


I dunno, I never bought a car built on the same platform as a Civic. So you tell us since you have first hand experience ;) :D

[Matt]

is it gonna come stock with the sparco red seats...if so that's kinda cool....just thought I'de share that with ya.

[k.]

Originally posted by NaVamous
Hmmm...interesting design, it's suppose to be a cross between a Honda and an integ? Weird concept, when is this suppose to hit the U.S market? Whats the specs on this also? Price tag?

ROFL..

~k.

[CoNFuSioUs2002]

Originally posted by Daniel
Originally posted by Death is TV
The Lancer is coming out in a year, the WRX is already out

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this new Lancer just going to be a spruced-up Mirage with the Lancer name? That's not exactly anything to boast about. Someone posted a thread about this earlier and said that Mitsubishi has no plans to bring the Evo VII to the US, not even some sort of turbocharged variant, :(.

Yea, the lancer will replace the mirage, but... there is a good chance the evo will come but not the 276 hp evo. The new automobile magazine has an article about the evo coming, and most magazines and mitsu people are pretty sure the evo will come but with more like 230hp. If the evo comes it won't be for a year or two. If sales for the wrx keep doing good, Mitsu will probably bring over the evo, and if so, count me in for a yellow rs. With the current exchange rate the evo 7 gsr with 276hp cost about 25,000 so i'm assuming a 230hp lancer evo should come it at about 25k - 26k.

[aSiaNdoboI]

man i saw the z comcept and it dissapointed me.
it looks like a audi and the engine that estaimated doesnt seem to be any stronger

[Silvia S14]

Originally posted by Ludelover
is it gonna come stock with the sparco red seats...if so that's kinda cool....just thought I'de share that with ya.

And the SER SpecV comes with Skyline GTR seats which are Recaro seats.

No biggie. I want some Bride seats tho. :D

[twisted_image]

i think that new ITR is off the hook, what's the spec on that thing? can't wait to see that on the runs especially going against se-rs wrxs and evo's. but damn who the hell said that the new WRX is ugly? it'll grow on you! and those WRX commercials are pretty tight.

[CoNFuSioUs2002]

Originally posted by twisted_image
i think that new ITR is off the hook, what's the spec on that thing? can't wait to see that on the runs especially going against se-rs wrxs and evo's. but damn who the hell said that the new WRX is ugly? it'll grow on you! and those WRX commercials are pretty tight. Yea, I love the comercials, they are right to the point. No bs, just showing the car going through the mountians and telling about it's rally history. I like the wrx because it comes with an optional real boost guage :) unlike my "fake" boost guage that came stock :(

[sac racer]

that thing looks like an integra, civic, and 92-96 prelude combined (rear section). i think it looks nice, and hope that it has good power. i still wouldnt buy any car over a bike, but that is just my personal point of view. nice car though. peace. -sac racer

[OnlyGoodGalant]

why were people gettin all worked up about the boxter and what can beat the boxter..i mean the boxter is the biggest piece of trash i have ever seen ... its like the cheapest, slowest, ugliest, midlife-crisis-mobile i have ever seen...so please dont get worked up that some car can beat the boxter...compare the car you are talkin about to a real car...not the crapster


clay

[DVS2all]

Originally posted by OnlyGoodGalant
why were people gettin all worked up about the boxter and what can beat the boxter..i mean the boxter is the biggest piece of trash i have ever seen ... its like the cheapest, slowest, ugliest, midlife-crisis-mobile i have ever seen...so please dont get worked up that some car can beat the boxter...compare the car you are talkin about to a real car...not the crapster


clay

Actually...it's not the cheapest of cars. Thats the main point of my post. You are basically paying for a name when you buy the Boxter. Everything else means nothing. I agree, when you compare a car to the Boxter, it's pointless because it's a POS just like the Audi TT.

[TFM]

cost of my car
8,800 1996 integra

Possible Cost of EVO VII
25,000- 32,000

not many people who can afford that car will buy it you know what i am saying???

NOW if Mitsubishi made a High end brand like how Honda-Acura Nissan- Infinity ...etc etc more people may buy it. i'm just saying not many people will pay 30,000 for a Mistubishi that doesnt look much like a sports car or a luxury... but i can be wrong... dont get me wrong i think the EVO is hella nice car... just wish it was more iun the 20k- 26k range

[TFM]

the WRX is pretty ugly.... you have to see it in person... i looks so small like a KIA

[Niño]

Originally posted by Ludelover
is it gonna come stock with the sparco red seats...if so that's kinda cool....just thought I'de share that with ya.

Not Sparco's. Those are RECARO's. Better quality seats.

[aSiaNdoboI]

Originally posted by TFM
cost of my car
8,800 1996 integra

Possible Cost of EVO VII
25,000- 32,000

not many people who can afford that car will buy it you know what i am saying???

NOW if Mitsubishi made a High end brand like how Honda-Acura Nissan- Infinity ...etc etc more people may buy it. i'm just saying not many people will pay 30,000 for a Mistubishi that doesnt look much like a sports car or a luxury... but i can be wrong... dont get me wrong i think the EVO is hella nice car... just wish it was more iun the 20k- 26k range
for real?
the integra here (96) is like 10- 11 k

[TFM]

was stolen salvage... they took the rims hood bumpper headlights and the interior... so i got all new interior headlights bumper but then now its all ****ed up cuz people be backing into my bumper and i be running over potholes and people be leaning on my car and putting dings in it.... and now i got on some cheap ass rims with cheap ass tires...but who needs coo rims. So i got my teg for pretty cheap cuz it's title was salvaged...anywho the new RSX looks wierd from the front and on the pics.. u have to see it in person, i thought the new TL type S looked ugly in the pics until i saw it yesterday, that car is hella sweet


Acura great engineered cars at a great price.

RL car with the lowest complaints in 2000
Acura TL type S looks sweet you get so much for so little
Acura CL type S nice for downtown cruising, and clubbing
Acura MDX SUV of the year
Acura Integra 8 years of excellence.
Acura NSX PIMP HARDER
Acura RSX fill in the blank ______________________

[White Rider]

Originally posted by TFM
The new Eclipse seems weak
the honda civic lost it's edge
240sx is gone
ford focus is kinda weak
the sentra SE-R is gong to be weak (same engine as new altima)

probably the best new car besides WRX
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I want one but why are the type r colors white and red. It should come in white and blue also.

[Jay]

Ye though I drive through the vally of the shadow of rice, I shall fear no Front driver.With my AWD under the car and the Turbo in front of me..I am the baddest son-of-a-bitch in the vally...LOL

I think the Lancer EVO if and when we get it and the WRX now are the cars to have if you want a new street racer...the days of the Honda are over. While it might be a good circit car or Grip car..I wont fear it on the street..

[Nick]

Not to be a synic, but i'd bet that that pic is just the photo of the regular Integ, and it was photshopped.....Nowadays, anything can be done with computers.....So i doubt it will have Sparco seats, Probably different wheels, as well as a different wing.....Stupid computers.....I only hate them, cuz i cant do shit with them....*stupid computers*

Peace:D

[PKR Integra]

Does it have cupholders?

[ni240sxT]

the new RSX (integra) is freaking ugly, and yeah it would have about 200hp but i still think the new sentra SE-R vspec will have more potential, because the QR series technology was based ob Nissan’s famed VQ V6 like a modular engine design, micro-finished crank journals and cam lobes, molybdenum coated lightweight pistons, electronically controlled throttle and continuously variable valve timing...

[Ren-Tech]

Originally posted by ni240sxT
the new sentra SE-R vspec will have more potential, because the QR series technology was based ob Nissan’s famed VQ V6 like a modular engine design, micro-finished crank journals and cam lobes, molybdenum coated lightweight pistons, electronically controlled throttle and continuously variable valve timing...

i can see someone really knnows their nissans, good job.

sounds like a nice 240 man, u got a pic of that?, peace

[TurboDeuce]

damn cup holders!!!! my car does not have one! how sad can that be? =(

[TurboDeuce]

damn cup holders!!!! my car does not have one! how sad can that be? =( i still love it a lot tho

[TFM]

i have cup holders... and rumor has it that the Sentra SE-R spec V engine is pretty much maxed out already @ 180, but those are just rumors...and i dont know for sure, and plus the RSX engine is pretty maxed out also but it is restrained a lot by computers stuff and etc... i think gearing and wieght will be the main factors in which car will be faster... my guess is the RSX will be a tad bit faster doing the 0-60 in about 6.5-7.0 and the quarter mile in 14.8-15.1... but what do i know...


too bad they didnt make a G-20 with the new Se-R spec V badge... now that would be pretty dope.

[ni240sxT]

only time will tell i guess ....

[NaMeLeSsEcLiPSe]

I just found this about the new Lancer that they are trying to get into america.

2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII: Mitsubishi has been showing its extreme Lancer at major events, suggesting the automaker is considering bringing its home-market rivalry with the Subaru Impreza WRX Stateside. Dubbed Evolution VII, the twin-turbocharged road rocket is offered in Japan for a mere $24,000-$28,000. Overseas, the Evo VII packs 276 horsepower, 283 lbs.-ft. of torque, race-bred five-speed transmission, massive Brembo brakes, all-wheel drive, active yaw control, lightweight aluminum body pieces, Recaro seats, Momo steering wheel, and titanium interior trim.

THE NEW CIVIC SI
http://www.motortrend.com/future/images/2002/civicsi.jpg

2002 Honda Civic Si:
The model designation that has embodied Honda performance returns to the Civic lineup in 2002. Back to its hatchback roots, the English-built 2002 Civic Si packs 160-horsepower from its i-VTEC engine, with a 20 percent improvement in torque over last year's Si coupe. Full compliment of sport enhancements include performance-tuned suspension, close-ratio five-speed transmission, silver-face gauges, ABS-equipped disc brakes, rear spoiler, and body-hugging bucket seats. The 2002 Si goes on sale in the U.S. early next year.

[NaMeLeSsEcLiPSe]

For all you Civic lovers



http://img.seznam.cz/img_novinky/civicr_1_1024.jpg

[ni240sxT]

i saw the new EVO VII bad boys in okinawa, when i was there last month, those car a cool, with evil looking lights. yeah they do come with brembo brake Front and rear/ front mounted intercooler. but the back lights remind me of a new civic a little (duno why) LOL. Also seen the new Nissan SUV that runs on the new SR20VET motor, bad ass motor :)...seen the new civic hatchback Type R, longer then the older ones, but looks to much like a focus.

[Silvia S14]

Originally posted by NaMeLeSsEcLiPSe

The model designation that has embodied Honda performance returns to the Civic lineup in 2002

Eh, embodied performance? Uh hate to break it to you but the Si badging back in the late 80s was to designate that it had injectors instead of a carburator. Like the Accord LX, the LXi model had injectors, same with the Si.

[NaMeLeSsEcLiPSe]

HAHAHA hey i just copied it from where I got the pic from LOL i dont know shit about hondas