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pr0ject TRUENO
08-19-2004, 09:47 PM
In the recent light of so many cars (mostly honda's) being stolen, I've decided to post up some theft prevention tips and tricks. Feel free to add your own.

Of course, the best possible way to deter thieves from your car is to not let them see it, so park in a garage. An alarm also works well, but my saying is, if a thief really wants your car, he'll find a way around it. Therefore this thread was created to make the potential thief's job harder...

KILL SWITCHES

Wire kill switches for the ignition or fuel pump. Hide this in a place not visible to someone attempting to jack your car. For ignition kill, wire the switch inbetween the signal from your ignition switch to the distibutor, or the coil positive wire. As for the fuel pump, the jacker might be able to get it to go a few feet before the car shuts off on him.

MECHANICAL/ELECTRICAL DEVICES

Mechanical theft prevention devices such as the Club or Autolock work pretty well, but it can be a bit cumbersome lugging this thing around and lock/unlocking it all the time. But I guess if you dont want your car jacked, this'll work well. In my experience, the Autolock works better than the club. Amateur thieves may pick the lock from the outside with another key, so the best way to eliminate this possibility is to either shave your door handles or change your key locks to Solex's (most newer cars can't use these). Like I said, if a thief really wants your car he'll get it either way, like breaking your window. That's why you invest in a good alarm. Most alarms have some sort of reset button so if you get into the car you can just push it and the alarm will turn off. Make sure its not in an obvious place (like most hondas where the button is either behind the hood latch or on the driver side kick panel. INVEST IN A GOOD ALARM is the bottom line. Get one with a Ni-CD backup battery so even if your battery is disconnected the alarm will still go off and if they try to start it even if the alarm was reset the car will not start (immobilizer)

GPS/LOJACK

Yeah, the initial cost may be a lot, but the theives wont know what hit them. Most companies guarantee the car found within 24 hours or you get a reward. Most police cars now have trackers than can track down your car as soon as you report it stolen. In actuality, your car will probably be found a couple hours or less after its reported stolen. The systems all utilize some sort of GPS sensor located around the car, almost impossible to locate if the theives dont know its there. Several sensors are installed in various areas of the car, ie dash, door panel, etc, running independent of the battery, so even if the battery is disconnected the sensors still work.

OTHER METHODS

I usually take out my battery so the theives can't boost my car. But then again, they can still get into your car and take stuff from it because your alarm wont work. For Honda owners, open up your steering column. There's a white circle in the back of your ignition switch goes. Its attached with two phillips screws on either side. Take them out, fill them up with epoxy or replace them with hex/torx screws. Usually thieves, after breaking the steering wheel lock, will take out the two aforementioned screws, and the white cover will pop off. They'll shove the phillips in the circle at the middle of the cap and start your car. Eliminate this possibility by making sure they dont get that cap off. Disconnect the stock hood latch and mount it somewhere else not as easily accessible. As a tip, make sure your windows are all the way rolled up when you leave the car. Just a little crack is more than enough for a theif to shove a screwdriver in and pop your window out. This is especially true for Hondas, where the door lacks a piece on top of the window (there is no extension to the door on top of the window) and therefore is how so many hondas are stolen. There are also systems that allow you to disconnect your steering wheel from the hub. It's a very good idea because theives cannot break the steering wheel lock by pulling the steering wheel, but they can still break the lock cylinder and release it that way. In that case, the missing steering wheel prevents the theives from driving away with the car.



Just my two cents. Hope no one got offended.

ryans
08-20-2004, 12:00 AM
I do some of those tricks too, but the advanced car thieves just tow it. Here is an article I wrote on how you can really protect your system. There are many good theft deterants, but this is the one I like most.

http://www.sromagazine.com/home.php?op=go&id=1062

james4o8
08-20-2004, 12:03 AM
thanks for that. i might get that system. my autolock might not be enough :) wait but they still can take my rims :( oh no!

pr0ject TRUENO
08-20-2004, 12:29 AM
Wheel locks. A different one for each lug. :)

Civic_Sleeper
08-20-2004, 02:02 AM
I rewired my ignition and relocated them underneath my seat using all black wire to the alarm. With the ignition rewire, I made it so the wires would not touch if someone tried to hot wire it.

I plan on making some metal covers (they will look like wind deflectors for the side windows) so they can't pry my windows open.

If you are willing to risk it, 3M makes a film that is virtually unbreakable (windows my crack, but they can't smash it out) but that means you can't get out in an emergency.

I haven't seen them in actions but the remote deadbolt looks like a neat device.

I'm also trying to design a metal insert for the interior side of the windows that can be easily put up and taken down.

Might also want to consider getting a Vehicle Wheel Boot.

james4o8
08-20-2004, 04:24 AM
how much do those kill switchesand installing it cost?

pr0ject TRUENO
08-20-2004, 11:42 AM
Installation is free if you know what you're doing. Go to Radio Shack and get switches.

Rare
08-20-2004, 11:54 AM
nice =D

balmo
08-22-2004, 10:41 AM
i used oem switches for my kill switch and it is just in plain sight.

dero84
08-22-2004, 11:11 AM
autolock

PC
08-23-2004, 05:04 PM
Hera ya go 3m scotchgaurd window film. We need that around here these stupid mofos dont know how to get in a car the easy way. They seem to think breaking the window is the way. amateurs..


http://www.glassgard.com/scotchshield.html

gbhsflip
09-13-2004, 01:14 PM
Get a bunch of staples and twist them in pairs so they are 90 degrees apart and scatter them on your front seat

PhrozenLikwid
09-13-2004, 05:05 PM
Hey PC, I checked out that glassguard stuff, and it seems really interesting. The link you gave didn't show any application for vehicles, and from what i took from it, it might be for home-use only. Any more info?

PC
09-13-2004, 05:25 PM
No, that was just from a google search. Might find soem more info with a google search. I know it would be helpful where I live. I kind of wonder if it doesnt have something to do with the window staying in the frame. Many cars dont have much of a window frame so when its broken wether it shatters or not it can still be moved out of the way.

al10fred1081
09-26-2004, 08:55 PM
best theft deterent I've ever seen was what this girl peaches, well ok stripper peaches used... she'd just take her 150 lbs rotty with her and leave him in the car when she went to dance. crack the window, hell leave it all the way down, noones getting in the car with that dog.

Could always wire another battery to the drivers side door, use a capacitor and a motion sensor underneath the car.... shock the hell outta someone trying to get into your car...I actually know a guy, a friend of my fathers that got into trouble with the law for wiring up a taser and a sensor to the drivers seat....two thick wires just sticking out of the seat a pressure sensor to activate it. the guy trying to steal his car tried to sue him after the cops caught up with him.

Best theft deterent I can think of would be to buy a club or a brake pedal lock..wire some kill switches....get an alarm...and move to Texas...an armed society is a polite society....

Peace,
Alex

Gabe
10-03-2004, 02:49 PM
Shotguns work pretty well.

davec
10-21-2004, 10:29 AM
I say to hell with any alarms... and all that other work. wheel locks yes but even then if they want it they get it. I took out my car stereo because I figured it wasn't worth having my car broken into for... what sucks is someone broke into my house a couple of weeks later and jacked me for all I was worth! damn...

jub366
11-01-2004, 12:35 PM
Dog in the hood works well

Got_A_Car?
11-30-2004, 08:58 AM
Duct tape fixes everything for me, j/k.

WannabeDriftr
01-12-2005, 12:24 PM
Sorry to revive such an old thread, but if you have the Unbrakeable Autolock thing that uses a flat key, you might as well not use it... AFAIK, the ones that use the round keys like the kind on Kryptonite bike locks are ok.

JACK DOLAN
01-23-2005, 12:43 PM
The first time they stole my truck they hot wired it and ran out of gas on the way to Tiajuana so I got it back.
A month later in spite of me taking the rotor in the house with me and putting the cap back, all I have now is the rotor. They towed it the second time from the driveway and I never saw it again.

feulish
01-28-2005, 09:49 PM
ive heard of the rotor trick, i heard a story about a guy that went to a goodguys show had a 5.0 took his rotor with him. came back and his car was gone and someone not too far away was wondering why their mustang wouldn't start. ive heard that the kryptonite style locks can be picked with a bic pen. for some cars you can get the ecu modified to have an ignition code step on the gas pedal in a certain sequence before you start your car even a valet mode where the rpms are limited. ive worked on cars that have kill switches in plain sight you just have to know how to use them, one was you had to pull on the high beam switch while cranking the car.

but anything like that just makes diagnosing no start problems even more complex. or what about getting in your car when you lock your key in it, and you've installed a super special alarm to prevent car thieves from getting in. if somebody wants it theyll just tow it

ive also heard a story about somebody who kept their car in a garage that was locked with a truck parked in front of it. they pulled the driveshaft out of the truck pushed it out of the way, broke into the garage and towed the car because it also had an alarm or something on it.

if they want it bad enough they will get it

PRoJEk_EG
01-28-2005, 11:16 PM
my friend with a black civic, he takes out one of his spark plugs