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luckistryke
07-03-2004, 01:20 AM
FOR ALL YOUR MOTOR VEHICLES TIXs
Before you got to court to contest the ticket you need to send this to the Judge and court....have the country clerk signed and stamped.

Motor Vehicle Codes only apply to ppl and Co. conducting business on the public road. You and I are private citizen traveling.


-DEFINITIONS
In order to understand the correct application of the statute in question, we must first define the terms used in connection with this point of law. As will be shown, many terms used today do not, in their legal context, mean what we assume they mean, thus resulting in the misapplication of statutes in the instant case.


AUTOMOBILE AND MOTOR VEHICLE
There is a clear distinction between an automobile and a motor vehicle. An automobile has been defined as:

"The word `automobile' connotes a pleasure vehicle designed for the transportation of persons on highways."

American Mutual Liability Ins. Co., vs. Chaput, 60 A.2d 118, 120; 95 NH 200



While the distinction is made clear between the two as the courts have stated:

"A motor vehicle or automobile for hire is a motor vehicle, other than an automobile stage, used for the transportation of persons for which remuneration is received."

International Motor Transit Co. vs. Seattle, 251 P. 120



The term `motor vehicle' is different and broader than the word `automobile.'"

City of Dayton vs. DeBrosse, 23 NE.2d 647, 650; 62 Ohio App. 232



The distinction is made very clear in Title 18 USC 31:

"Motor vehicle" means every description or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, or passengers and property.

"Used for commercial purposes" means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other considerations, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit.

Clearly, an automobile is private property in use for private purposes, while a motor vehicle is a machine which may be used upon the highways for trade, commerce, or hire.

TRAVEL
The term "travel" is a significant term and is defined as:

"The term `travel' and `traveler' are usually construed in their broad and general sense ... so as to include all those who rightfully use the highways viatically (when being reimbursed for expenses) and who have occasion to pass over them for the purpose of business, convenience, or pleasure."

25 Am.Jur. (1st) Highways, Sect.427, Pg. 717



"Traveler -- One who passes from place to place, whether for pleasure, instruction, business, or health."

Locket vs. State, 47 Ala. 45;
Bovier's Law Dictionary, 1914 ed., Pg. 3309



"Travel -- To journey or to pass through or over; as a country district, road, etc. To go from one place to another, whether on foot, or horseback, or in any conveyance as a train, an automobile, carriage, ship, or aircraft; Make a journey."

Century Dictionary, Pg. 2034



Therefore, the term "travel" or "traveler" refers to one who uses a conveyance to go from one place to another, and included all those who use the highways as a matter of Right.

Notice that in all these definitions, the phrase "for hire" never occurs. This term "travel" or "traveler" implies, by definition, one who uses the road as a means to move from one place to another.

Therefore, one who uses the road in the ordinary course of life and business for the purpose of travel and transportation is a traveler.

DRIVER
The term "driver" in contradistinction to "traveler," is defined as:

"Driver -- One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle ..."

Bovier's Law Dictionary, 1914 ed., Pg. 940



Notice that this definition includes one who is "employed" in conducting a vehicle. It should be self-evident that this individual could not be "travelling" on a journey, but is using the road as a place of business.

OPERATOR
Today we assume that a "traveler" is a "driver," and a "driver" is an "operator." However, this is not the case.

"It will be observed from the language of the ordinance that a distinction is to be drawn between the terms `operator' and `driver'; the `operator' of the service car being the person who is licensed to have the car on the streets in the business of carrying passengers for hire; while the `driver' is the one who actually drives the car. However, in the actual prosecution of business, it was possible for the same person to be both `operator' and `driver.'"

Newbill vs. Union Indemnity Co., 60 SE.2d 658



To further clarify the definition of an "operator" the court observed that this was a vehicle "for hire" and that it was in the business of carrying passengers.

This definition would seem to describe a person who is using the road as a place of business, or in other words, a person engaged in the "privilege" of using the road for gain.

This definition, then, is a further clarification of the distinction mentioned earlier, and therefore:

Travelling upon and transporting one's property upon the public roads as a matter of Right meets the definition of a traveler.

Using the road as a place of business as a matter of privilege meets the definition of a driver or an operator or both.


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ShadyMilkman
07-03-2004, 02:24 AM
Contesting your 110mph speeding ticket by arguing semantics with the judge isn't going to do anything expect piss them off even more.

Swift
07-03-2004, 11:27 AM
didnt somebody post something like this already? anyway itll never work.

SgtGrant
07-04-2004, 01:45 PM
These miracle methods come up periodically. If you don't mind public humiliation, feel free to try them. Even the "How to beat a ticket" books aren't silly enough to suggest these but somebody always tries anyway. There is always somebody at traffic court that gets beat like a rented mule to provide entertainment for the rest of the participants. It almost makes it pleasurable to be there...........well........not quite.......

P-P-Puddin Head
07-04-2004, 02:29 PM
If you got a good lawyer, then you might be able to pull it off. But then you are paying more money to your lawyer then you would have probably paid in fines and from higher insurance rates. So pick your evil to give your money to...Lawyer vs Courts??

Of course, the money you give the lawyer will NEVER serve any good for you, but the money give to the court goes to pay something for the area, whether it be the officers patrolling the streets, the judge, or the employees of the court.

bluetwo
07-06-2004, 07:11 AM
didnt somebody post something like this already? anyway itll never work.

yup... same guy, multiple times... :hammer:

9616
07-23-2004, 03:21 PM
Motor vehicle codes apply to anyone and everyone who operates a motor vehicle on a public roadway!

In many instances, you have given your consent for for the police to take ceratin actions.

For example, in Texas, when you drive on a public roadway, you give your consent to a sample of your breath and/or blood if asked for such by a police officer. This is true even if you are just passing through the state.

Next, Texas law states an officer can stop you on a public roadway just to check your license. There will be a problem with the PC for the stop if you are arrested, but an officer can stop you just to check your DL.

Also, when you ride a motorcycle in Texas, an officer can stop you just to check to see if your helmet is DOT certified.

Before you intend to get a ticket dismissed in court, do your homework first. The article in this forum is not going to get your ticket dismissed in any of the 50 states.