comparing Mustangs and Integs

[TFM]

well i just raced my friends 96 stang like 4 times n a row and i lost by about 3-4 1/2 car lengths each time at about 100 mph i have a stock GSR and he has a stock 1996 GT and i'm wondering if losing by 3-4 1/2 is pretty good for a stock integ...

Krazy Chow... how are u doing against them V-8s?
Phewl
Mr integ?

and any other ppl?
i just wanna see how my car stacks up

[noslow5oh]

1 carlenght in a street race is roughly equal to 0.1 seconds in the 1/4 mile.

Stock 5-spd 96 GT's run 14.7-15.1 in the 1/4 mile while stock Automatic GT's run 15.1-16.0 in the 1/4 mile. Yeah, those are shitty times but that's because the 96GT is the slowest Mustang made in the last 20 years

[Chris]

4.6 is a DOG! :)

[YOUL LUZ]

Originally posted by Chris
4.6 is a DOG! :)

my 4.6 does ok .. im sure you wouldnt want to run me ..:):)

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by YOUL LUZ
Originally posted by Chris
4.6 is a DOG! :)

my 4.6 does ok .. im sure you wouldnt want to run me ..:):)


Let's modify Chris's statement a bit. 96-98 SOHC 4.6L's are dogs. 96-98 Cobra DOHC 4.6L's kick ass!!


let's hope they got the 2001 Cobra (which began production last week) right

[NemesisKwky]

So Comparing Mustangs and Integs......... Well there is no Comparrison Mustangs end up actually usally end up 3-4 cars behind me hehehe...... anyways There is only one mustang I well Ever have respect for and that is the Sick looking one that was on Gone In 60Sec........ That car was fuckin sick.. But MY girl has a Mustang But personally Out of all the mustangs I have raced haven't lost yet, but they really aren't all that fast.......

[ghoust]

99+ GTs are pretty damn good. 14.2 or less bone stock.

[Jaggorri]

Originally posted by kwksilvr
Out of all the mustangs I have raced haven't lost yet, but they really aren't all that fast.......

Didn't you race Blown97SVT's 93 Cobra one night? I could have sworn you guys did, but maybe I'm wrong.

[TrustGs-R]

pulled by about a car on a stock 00 cobra =P

[TFM]

considering my car is stock, and his car is stock 5 speed how did i do???? or is it just usual=

[Chris]

whats a stock integra run? Seems about right to me.

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by TrustGs-R
pulled by about a car on a stock 00 cobra =P

there is no 00 Cobra. they skipped a year of production, the 2001's should be hitting the streets in a month

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by Chris
whats a stock integra run? Seems about right to me.

Aren't they mid to high 15 second cars? I raced my friend in his 93? Integra GSR in my 88 Mustang Automatic and left him in the dust 6 or 7 carlenghts.

Street racing is hard to judge. A 12 second car at the track might not run 12's on the street. Also driving skills come into play and tons of other stuff. I'm not big on when people race a 13 second car and when they keep even with them they claim they also must run 13's.

Also, one last note that doesn't apply to this thread. But some guys I talk to cannot tell a plain ole V6 Mustang from a Cobra. One guy i knew with a civic claimed of smoking a 99 Cobra the night before. Well, 10 mins later the "Cobra" he beat rolled by. It was a V6 with a body kit (still kept the dinky exhaust pipe) It wasn't even a 99...more like a 95. Also one kid was POSITIVE his 5.0L HO engine was a special order engine with 300HP on his stock 95GT automatic. He raced some kid who beleived him and lost. Now tell me that kid who beat him isn't gonna brag to his friends he beat a Mustang GT with a special engine in his 3000GT. 50% of the stories I hear are hyped up through pure misinformation. If i had a nickle for every time there was a V6 with the special racing engine or a GT with the Cobra Package Engine I'd be a millionaire. Just like some import guys think ever civic is a Type R even if there aren't any in the US. Think of how you legit Intergra Type R owners feel if someone bought the cheapest model integra and slapped Type R stickers all over it and went out and raced a Trams AM and got destroyed. Now that trans am driver thinks all Type R's are slow. That is exactly how Mustang owners feel when V6 owners slap on Saleen Body kits and Cobra emblems and go around beleiving they are.

[WiCkEd SS]

I got A mustang also and Ill have it out this sat in milpitas so if you wanna runnem lets see how my mustang does its not as fast as my 01 SS but im tryin to get some tires cuz I dont have tration in 1st and 2nd gear at all..

[NemesisKwky]

Byron No I dont thing I ran Blown....... whatever the rest was. I di run a black cobra but it didn't have a blower but the cobra I raced I killed. And Wicked ss sure I'll be out this sat if everything goes to plan with me and my lady and family.....but I'll for sure be out tonight.....

[nemesiscivic]

chris the 5.slow master! oh yeah and with no car!
lmao what a fag!

[Mr Rogers]

Mustangs are notorious for not getting any traction, and for saying that mustangs are slow, go find a corbra R, they are very qiuck, and the mustang in gone in 60 seconds, is as 1967 ford mustang shelby gt 500, which is they baddest mustang i ahve seen in a while, and that car sounded amazing.

[TrustGs-R]

sorry my bad...i really don't kno the years and details of mustang makes...it was a new model cobra so i thought i just call it an 00....when we talked i didn't ask him wat year his car was :)

stock gs-r should run the 1320 anywhere from 15.3-15.7

96 gt? is that the new body? (shrug)...i think it's the old body....didn't they run like 15.1? that's about right mr "turbo fucking machine" ;)

[Dan]

Originally posted by kwksilvr
So Comparing Mustangs and Integs......... Well there is no Comparrison Mustangs end up actually usally end up 3-4 cars behind me hehehe...... anyways There is only one mustang I well Ever have respect for and that is the Sick looking one that was on Gone In 60Sec........ That car was fuckin sick.. But MY girl has a Mustang But personally Out of all the mustangs I have raced haven't lost yet, but they really aren't all that fast.......



Come on now Kwik. I have seen you type alot of BS on here but to say that Mustangs are no comparison for Integras?

Dude. Are you serious?


Quit fuckin around with these kids on the street and start running it at the track and you may notice something very interesting. The mustangs are one of the BEST foundations for low buck mods AND high buck mods.

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by Dan
Originally posted by kwksilvr
So Comparing Mustangs and Integs......... Well there is no Comparrison Mustangs end up actually usally end up 3-4 cars behind me hehehe...... anyways There is only one mustang I well Ever have respect for and that is the Sick looking one that was on Gone In 60Sec........ That car was fuckin sick.. But MY girl has a Mustang But personally Out of all the mustangs I have raced haven't lost yet, but they really aren't all that fast.......




Quit fuckin around with these kids on the street and start running it at the track and you may notice something very interesting. The mustangs are one of the BEST foundations for low buck mods AND high buck mods.





I agree with that one. Get off the street and head to the track and you'll see that a 12 second Mustang is probably one of the slowest Mustangs there. Hell a 14 second Mustang gets laughed at by those guys. Those guys don't fool around with their cars...when they want HP, they get HP. Beleive me I've lined up against many 10 second Mustangs at the track while I can only say the fastest Integra I've seen at the track ran like a 13.9

[Dan]

Put it to you this way.

Get an integra to run in the 13s even 12s FUCK it even 11s. And it is a BIG fuckin deal.

Get a mustang to do that and no one gives a shit.

Reason why?

It is just so fuckin easy that ANYONE can do it with no cash.


Now as far as the fast integras?? Well you either have DEEP pockets and dont really know shit. OR you are a smart mother fucker and hustle your way to get the nice pieces and put the money where it is needed and do it YOURself as to save money on labor :)


Now I dont know where anyone stands, but no dealer has ever put ANY parts on my mustang.

[WiCkEd SS]

What kind of car should I look for and if you wanna hear A nice loud mustang than just look for A blk 94 loud as fuck!! I just got to get tires but if I dont then Ill just be spining them all over the place but I dont care Ill race who ever. Ill be in milpitas around 11 to 11:30 with some other camaros and mustangs.

[noslow5oh]

Stock Mustangs can be pretty slow. But who has a stock Mustang? Finding a stock Mustang is like finding a Virgin in a ***** house....you might bet lucky but she won't stay that way for too long.

Just remember mods on Mustangs (especially 5.0's) are even cheaper than import mods. Those chrome tubes import guys call intake? they are what? $150 bucks? For 300 bucks you can get an entire intake manifold for a 5.0. Headers can be had for $150 bucks (for 2 of them!) cams can be had for less than 200 bucks, Underdrive pulleys are less than 100HP and a dyno proven to be 5-10HP and one of the better mods.

It all depends on the owner knowing how to put the combo together.

[jexser]

There is no comparing a car that was built with Japanese N1 Racing in mind to an American Pony Car.

Each do different things well, but as far as drag racing goes, THE MUSTANG WINS.

As far as road racing goes, um...well, THE MUSTANG WINS.
*Note: atleast my Mustang wins, noslow5oh can attest to the Steeda stuff!

As far as gas mileage goes, the Integra wins, but in the end who build a "street race car" with gas mileage in mind?

And I am biased!:D

[Grrr]

ponys own the roads of america

[WiCkEd SS]

chevys and ford owns the roads I have one of both and they both are fast but they are different my Mustang has alot of bottom end and the SS has alot of top end but they are both fun to drive and alot of fun to smoke imports in too!!!!!!!!hAHaHaaHAAhA

[jexser]

A camaro is considered a pony car too!

[Grrr]

you know what i mean...

[Jaggorri]

Originally posted by kwksilvr
Byron No I dont thing I ran Blown....... whatever the rest was. I di run a black cobra but it didn't have a blower but the cobra I raced I killed.

Okay. Now I remember, you ran against Matt and not Greg. I guess you haven't lost to a Mustang yet then...

[Poisoned Pony]

Originally posted by Byron
Originally posted by kwksilvr
Byron No I dont thing I ran Blown....... whatever the rest was. I di run a black cobra but it didn't have a blower but the cobra I raced I killed.

Okay. Now I remember, you ran against Matt and not Greg. I guess you haven't lost to a Mustang yet then...

yeah, Greg also drove my car that night. He said it ran like shit (his words). I'm down for a re-match, especially tonight since I will have traction :D Bryon knows what I mean.

[Edited by Poisioned Pony on 03-23-2001 at 08:48 PM]

[Dan]

And he put 3-4 car lengths on ya?

[Poisoned Pony]

2 or 3 lengths. I was running with my IMRC plates stuck closed. So I'm running on half my valves.

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by WiCkEd SS
chevys and ford owns the roads I have one of both and they both are fast but they are different my Mustang has alot of bottom end and the SS has alot of top end but they are both fun to drive and alot of fun to smoke imports in too!!!!!!!!hAHaHaaHAAhA


hahahahaha! your a fuckin fag! muscle dont own shit! cuz everytime they run they break something! thanks to muscle cars they keep automotive repair shops in business!

[Slo5.0]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
Originally posted by WiCkEd SS
chevys and ford owns the roads I have one of both and they both are fast but they are different my Mustang has alot of bottom end and the SS has alot of top end but they are both fun to drive and alot of fun to smoke imports in too!!!!!!!!hAHaHaaHAAhA


hahahahaha! your a fuckin fag! muscle dont own shit! cuz everytime they run they break something! thanks to muscle cars they keep automotive repair shops in business!


You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The myth that domestics break down all the time is BS.

And what is this garbage: >--- D&J Motorsports... producin 13 Second cars and gettin all the ladies? Wow, 13 sec what an accomplishment. 13 sec is nothing.

[jexser]

Well, that's about what a bone stock 2001 IRS Cobra runs.
But, still not impressive by any means!

One thing to think about, if Mustangs and Camaros are such pieces of shit, why does everyone brag about out running stock pony cars? Hmmm....I guess Honduh fans need someone to be their father figure or should I say DADDY!:D

The only Honduh products worth thier salt are the S2000 and the NSX, but they're still fucking slow for the money! Honduh ain't even shit in Japan. They give Imports a fucking bad name!

FoMoCo owns you, NOW WHAT?!?!?!;)

[gbhsflip]

Man, why do I have a 4runner?

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
[B
hahahahaha! your a fuckin fag! muscle dont own shit! cuz everytime they run they break something! thanks to muscle cars they keep automotive repair shops in business! [/B]

Man, that is such BS. That shit about V8's falling apart at 80K miles is PURE BS!! I know plenty of 120,000 mile Mustangs running 12's. My '88 and '85 have about 100K and everything on them is still original and there is NO rust. I have a friend who pulled a 13.9 with his Mustang with very few mods and a bone stock 150,000 mile motor. I have yet to see an import do that.

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by Slo5.0
[BAnd what is this garbage: >--- D&J Motorsports... producin 13 Second cars and gettin all the ladies? Wow, 13 sec what an accomplishment. 13 sec is nothing.
[/B]

Damn, 13 second cars get the ladies? Wow, i've been going off on the wrong approach.

Next time I go to a club i'm gonna walk up to a fine girl and say "Hi, my car runs low 12's(or whatever)...can I buy you a drink?"

That's bound to get me laid!!!


(just don't tell my girlfriend)

[gbhsflip]

Actually, if you go up to a girl and say "yea, I drive that 1999 Fo' Runna out there you saw bumpin in with them purple lights" they dont give a fuck if you run high 17's, *****pubs will be all over your face! hahahaha j/p:):P

Im bored, its raining here too:(

[Mike777]

Don't get so ****y, stangs have been around alot longer. An integra in the pro circuit is now in 8's. So give it some time. I like mustangs personally. But they aren't as fast as everyone says. I beat alot of the mustangs i meet on the road. I have very minor mods as long as the stang isn't heavily modded it ain't shit. There are a grip of my friends who can a test to me smokin up on a buch of stangs. From fox bodies to the new ones, from saleen to cobra. But the mustang folk on this website gennerally are pretty modded. But it's all good just my 2 cents.

mike

[MuGeNxILuZN]

how about if you put an integ and a mustang on track race??...(turns people)... i think the integ would win cuz they got the better handling...

[jexser]

There's huge difference between 1 twin turbo teg that runs high 8's and a whole grip of Mustangs that run DEEP in the 7's on a single turbo.(keep in mind that these numbers are with a minumum weight and maximum tire size, unlike import racing!) Hurley Blakney has a Probe that runs in the 6's with a Duttweiler tuned SBF. I've seen Billy Glidden run a 4.83 in the 1/8th on 10.5 inch slicks with my own eyes, where are the big dog imports at when the domestic get to run unlimited power adders? Until import racing starts handing out rules( minimum weight, maximum tire size, max power adders) there is no real comparasion to actual performance.

I actually like 240's, Supras, Skylines and 300zx's, but these asshole's who think that a 13 second car is some kind of accomplishment are getting on my last damn nerve!

When the import boys jump into Pro-Stock or the like and start beating domestics, they'll get respect. But, as long as they keep hiding themselves in NIRA and are afriad to get in the ring where the real racing goes on, they won't get any respect from the domestic camp! BOTTOM LINE!

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by MuGeNxILuZN
how about if you put an integ and a mustang on track race??...(turns people)... i think the integ would win cuz they got the better handling...

They did that. Speedvision had a series last summer pitting Mustangs, Camaros, Firebirds, Porsches, BMW, Civics, Integras, Saturns, Hundyais, Neons and tons of other mixes of cars in a road races. There were 3 classes so you competed in a class but you raced all 3 classes at once. The Mustangs and other V8's were lapping the imports (all except the BMW's) There were even a few NSX's getting out handled by Mustangs. Oh yeah, the rules called for pretty much stock cars. I have a tape of the races around here somewhere. Whenever someone brings up the "imports outhandle V8's" arguement I whip out the take and watch them get lapped on the the twisties by those lumbering V8's.

Also, there was that article in some import mag aboiut the new Mustang Vs a Type R integra. The Mustang won all of the speed and slalom tests. The Type R won the road test but ONLY after rearranging the course several times to make it slightly biased for the Type R.

Plus suspension mods for Mustangs are just as cheap as the mods for the engine. You'd be surprised what a hige difference a set of higher rate springs and better shocks can do (or an entire Steeda Suspension)

[Edited by noslow5oh on 03-24-2001 at 10:22 PM]

[jexser]

STEEDA G-TRAC STAGE 3!! NOW WHAT!?!?!?!? :D

[Slo5.0]

Throw a "G" into a stang, suspension wise, and you will have a car that can hang real well on the track. There are plenty of guys who run stangs in Lemans type, road course, racing and win. Just cos our stockers arent hot in the turns doesnt mean a few bucks wont make them corner huggers.

[mr.integra]

TFM: i beat a 5.0 a while ago with a firend in the car... a 94-98 mustang gt (i pull on them hard in third), and i just beat a 99+ mustang gt just recently (by half a car).. However, it could also be the driver... IMHO, a gsr with IHE will give any 'STOCK' mustang gt a hella goood run (considering equal drivers). The gsr shoudl be able to pull on the gt w/out any problems if it gets cam gear tuning and air/fuel tuning..

[Poisoned Pony]

Originally posted by 300zx777
But the mustang folk on this website gennerally are pretty modded. But it's all good just my 2 cents.

mike

haha, I'm the total opposite to this statement. I'm so stock taht it's really starting to suck now. Damn 4.6 DOHC's are expensive to mod. Once I start looking at mods for my Cobra, I start to miss my 5-liter. It was cheap when compared to my Cobra, but the Cobra has some potential for some serious power (witness Gabe's '98 Cobra vert with 501rwhp). When the time comes, it will be modded.

[ghoust]

ok....I have had just about enough of this...I own a 2000 Mustang GT..with minimal mods...who wants to run?? I wana show u what an almost Stock GT can do... any takers??

Email me for a private run. Not doing any of the typical mili 500s or kickin it at chevron..just honest racing. Whoever is interested in runnin my V8 please Im or email me.

[mr.integra]

lilghoust, lets do it

[jexser]

That's it Ghost, show these pussies what up!!!:D

[noslow5oh]

yeah lilghoust...tell us who wins!

[nemesiscivic]

your sooo fuckin funny noslow5oh! its just so happens that this fuckin 13 sec car is in the the mid 13s with 3 minor ass bolt-ons. there a few dumestic drivers and crs i respect! give a civic a 350 and i guarantee it there will be no fuckin mustang or fuckin camero that will touch that car. grant it probably wont happen but just think about that!most imports run anywhere from a 17-15 sec quarter times. and for an import to drop almost 3 sec its extremely good! i know most of you dont think so but i really dont care! I WOULD RATHER PUSH MY HONDA THAN DRIVE A DOMESTIC! i give some domestic cars mad props! but mustangs just dont do it for me! just my 2 cents

[nemesiscivic]

1993 Mustang LX 5.0L 5-spd
Vortech S-trim, GT-40 heads, GT-40 intake, E303 cam, Pro-M 75mm Mass air meter w/30lb injectors, 70mm TB w/70mm EGR spacer, 1 5/8 FMS headers,
MAC Prochamber H-pipe, MAC 2.5" cat-back exhaust, MAC underdrive pulleys, Tremec TKO 5-spd, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce clutch, Steeda Tri-AX shifter,
FMS aluminum driveshaft, 3.73 rear end gears, FULL Steeda suspension w/ 5-lug 4-wheel Cobra disk brake conversion, Tokico 5-way adjustable shocks....and a
few other little mods. (Coming soon...small 125 shot of NOS)

hey do you and wicked ss know eachother?
with your signatures lookin like an isle at kragens!!
hey can i be cool and post up an isle at pep boys?

[ghoust]

Originally posted by mr.integra
lilghoust, lets do it

E-mail me mr.integra. Lilghoust@aol.com.

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by Dex
[QUOTE][i]

If you knew any thing about imports, you would have way more respect for them.

No offence, but you remind me of my Ex girlfriend in the way you judge cars. She would say "ewwie... that car sounded gross" See, she was not a true car enthusiast like myself. I know almost every Minivan and after market provider for those minivans and what year scheme they apply to. I have never owned a minivan, nor would I ever want to. But just the fact that I know the ins and outs of most cars out there on the street, makes me a more knowledgeable Auto Freak. I often find myself reading Off-Road trying to memorize tire sizes for Swampers, and M/Ts... I know quite a bit about 4 wheel drive, IFS (independent front suspension), strait axels, lockers, leaf springs, and steering suspension. I like trucks, but just to haul around a boat (Air Nautique), or a quad (Yamaha Banshee). I do like both domestic and import trucks (back to the 22R 'carbureted' and the 22Re 'FI'). My roots how ever go back to classic domestics. My first love was "The Enchilada", that was a 1965 Impala SS 327. We got it with just the shell and built the engine from scratch.

... What I'm getting at, is that I pride myself on my overall knowledge of automobiles. When I see someone put down a group of cars (imports or domestics), especially multiple brands, for no apparent good reason, it tells me right off the bat that you are not as educated about autos as I am. And I look down upon those that I know that I can crush with my vast knowledge of cars.

noslows0h I think that you should not cut on something that you know nothing about.

[510King]

Can't compare Stangs an' GSRs...its not the same...I've read Stangs with 5.0 Twin Turbos rockin' 200mph!! I've read about a 4.6 Cobra from Sean Hyland Motorsport rockin 200mph and it could go faster!! Fuck a GSR

[John]

Originally posted by 510King
Can't compare Stangs an' GSRs...its not the same...I've read Stangs with 5.0 Twin Turbos rockin' 200mph!! I've read about a 4.6 Cobra from Sean Hyland Motorsport rockin 200mph and it could go faster!! Fuck a GSR

no fuck you asshole .... do u wana run the snatchback? then we'll see if a mustang can keep up ... i am undefeated to a mustang .. so if u wanna run yur 510 lets go .. OH BY THE WAY ARE THE THE 510 MY SNATCH SPANKED ON FRIDAY NIGHT? HAHAAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

[John]

oh and another thing a mustang yeah but not a cobra dumbshit if yur gona compare a cobra then u compare it to a type r not a damn gsr .. u compare a gsr to a gt or something ..

i hate when newbies dunno shit about there cars

[ghoust]

Type R vs Cobra R

Stock for Stock..The Cobra R will runs circles around the Type R in 50 laps, and Walk on it in the 1/4 mile.

[ghoust]

I think this whole import vs domestic thing is all BS man...run what u brung..speed is beautiful in any form.

[John]

Originally posted by Lilghoust
I think this whole import vs domestic thing is all BS man...run what u brung..speed is beautiful in any form.

i hear that ... yu beter tell 510 asshole that tho .. hes dissin gsr's ... hes prolly jealous cause he cant afford one

[ghoust]

there are soo many cars out now with so much potential. It just depends on how far u want to go with your car. It doesnt matter what type of car. The number 1 rule of streetracing is: There is always someone faster.

[WiCkEd SS]

Do you not understand that this message board is about cars. Ok I want you too look at the top of the screen where it says address and read,it says http://www.streetracing.org right.Now why you gonna try to clown if you would just look at your sig just for A for A minute,who do you think you are DR DRE shit this isnt star search!!!!!Now do me A favor and dont bring up my sig like that again , and sorry Im not A rap star and my sig doesnt look like yours!So dont talk shit cuz I wasnt talkin shit to you!!!!!!!!!!

[John]

true that again lil ghost ... there is always someone faster ... cant we all just race n get along ..

[TFM]

over a Mustang GT anyday for style looks, and performance.... plus i'd pay less for gas and less for insurance...and save up some money for mods...nothing too outrageous just to have some mods to keep up with the new GTs

[WiCkEd SS]

Cant wait to race you jay and your friend nemsiscivic maybe this week cuz Im not about talkin shit I know what I got and I wanna see thses fast imports you guys r talkin about cuz I aint lost to 1 yet so letz do this!!

[WiCkEd SS]

Why dont you buy A car thats fast from the factory like A 2001 SS Camaro

[510King]

first off "Jerkoff'sgotta2kgs-fart", i aint dissin no gsr's i just said they dont compare against stangs, so blow me. dont get hyped up son...if u got a fast gsr its all good to you, i just dropped my $.02.

second, i'm from NY. i've seen gsr's,civics,type rs, hybrids here TRY to compete against domestics. the only imports that fuck with domestics are rotaries, and dsm's and some VR6s. Newbie? just cuz i got less posts doesnt mean i know less...anyway.

third you said u never lost to a mustang, but how many did you come across? i never dissed u son, if u werent so ignorant then u woulda understood my post. I got an 89 LX 5.0 and i 've beat gsrs, civics, hybrids, vr6s. my car is stock, all i have is underdrive pulleys, flowmaster mufflers, and a bad tranny.

[John]

no wonder yur from New York .....

::new york city:: ::sighs::

just like in those salsa commercials hahahahaa

[510King]

Too bad I'm not as ignorant as you..silly little fool

[Poisoned Pony]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
1993 Mustang LX 5.0L 5-spd
Vortech S-trim, GT-40 heads, GT-40 intake, E303 cam, Pro-M 75mm Mass air meter w/30lb injectors, 70mm TB w/70mm EGR spacer, 1 5/8 FMS headers,
MAC Prochamber H-pipe, MAC 2.5" cat-back exhaust, MAC underdrive pulleys, Tremec TKO 5-spd, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce clutch, Steeda Tri-AX shifter,
FMS aluminum driveshaft, 3.73 rear end gears, FULL Steeda suspension w/ 5-lug 4-wheel Cobra disk brake conversion, Tokico 5-way adjustable shocks....and a
few other little mods. (Coming soon...small 125 shot of NOS)

hey do you and wicked ss know eachother?
with your signatures lookin like an isle at kragens!!
hey can i be cool and post up an isle at pep boys?


:rolleyes: 99% of that stuff you can't get at Kragens or Pep Boys or any fucked up place that has a pimple faced 17 year old moron who doesn't know jack shit about cars working there. Wait, I forgot about Speed Merchant.

[WiCkEd SS]

S.M thats where im goin this week to get my car tuned!!

[510King]

i'd rather have a list of things that make my car go faster in my sig like: pullies, headers, pro 5.0 shifter, throttle body, heads, cam instead of "FaRt CaN LiKe WhoA"...Black Rob from Uptown aka 125th aka Fuckin Harlem Baby aka New York City

if u a V8 killer, what does a V8 have to kill? Nothing... cause we on top!

[John]

damn yur a funny guy arent yu ....

NEME WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

wanna hump ? and since when does running open header consist of having a fart can? in al lhonesty my car sounds meaner than a v8 with exhaust .. ask anyone whos seen my car run and theyll state you the facts ... damn newbies these days always startin shit

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by WiCkEd SS
Do you not understand that this message board is about cars. Ok I want you too look at the top of the screen where it says address and read,it says http://www.streetracing.org right.Now why you gonna try to clown if you would just look at your sig just for A for A minute,who do you think you are DR DRE shit this isnt star search!!!!!Now do me A favor and dont bring up my sig like that again , and sorry Im not A rap star and my sig doesnt look like yours!So dont talk shit cuz I wasnt talkin shit to you!!!!!!!!!!

why dont you shut me up then you fuckin bitch!

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by WiCkEd SS
Cant wait to race you jay and your friend nemsiscivic maybe this week cuz Im not about talkin shit I know what I got and I wanna see thses fast imports you guys r talkin about cuz I aint lost to 1 yet so letz do this!!

there is a first time for everything bitch!

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by Poisioned Pony
Originally posted by nemesiscivic
1993 Mustang LX 5.0L 5-spd
Vortech S-trim, GT-40 heads, GT-40 intake, E303 cam, Pro-M 75mm Mass air meter w/30lb injectors, 70mm TB w/70mm EGR spacer, 1 5/8 FMS headers,
MAC Prochamber H-pipe, MAC 2.5" cat-back exhaust, MAC underdrive pulleys, Tremec TKO 5-spd, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce clutch, Steeda Tri-AX shifter,
FMS aluminum driveshaft, 3.73 rear end gears, FULL Steeda suspension w/ 5-lug 4-wheel Cobra disk brake conversion, Tokico 5-way adjustable shocks....and a
few other little mods. (Coming soon...small 125 shot of NOS)

hey do you and wicked ss know eachother?
with your signatures lookin like an isle at kragens!!
hey can i be cool and post up an isle at pep boys?


:rolleyes: 99% of that stuff you can't get at Kragens or Pep Boys or any fucked up place that has a pimple faced 17 year old moron who doesn't know jack shit about cars working there. Wait, I forgot about Speed Merchant.


seriously matt you need to stay out of this shit! if was corrext you got beat by our integ! reguardless if it was fucked up or not you had chosen to race!

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by jaysgotta2kgsr
damn yur a funny guy arent yu ....

NEME WHAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!

wanna hump ? and since when does running open header consist of having a fart can? in al lhonesty my car sounds meaner than a v8 with exhaust .. ask anyone whos seen my car run and theyll state you the facts ... damn newbies these days always startin shit

they are scurred! fuckin haters!
and ppl wonder why imports hate domestics! cuz domestics are a piece of SHIT!

[510King]

Do u 2 cats sit down and pee?

[nemesiscivic]

cats? who is a cat? the only ***** i see here is YOU!

[Edited by nemesiscivic on 03-26-2001 at 01:37 PM]

[John]

yum yum i wanna eat my snatch .....

pinche miate donde estas el pollo?

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
1993 Mustang LX 5.0L 5-spd
Vortech S-trim, GT-40 heads, GT-40 intake, E303 cam, Pro-M 75mm Mass air meter w/30lb injectors, 70mm TB w/70mm EGR spacer, 1 5/8 FMS headers,
MAC Prochamber H-pipe, MAC 2.5" cat-back exhaust, MAC underdrive pulleys, Tremec TKO 5-spd, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce clutch, Steeda Tri-AX shifter,
FMS aluminum driveshaft, 3.73 rear end gears, FULL Steeda suspension w/ 5-lug 4-wheel Cobra disk brake conversion, Tokico 5-way adjustable shocks....and a
few other little mods. (Coming soon...small 125 shot of NOS)

hey do you and wicked ss know eachother?
with your signatures lookin like an isle at kragens!!
hey can i be cool and post up an isle at pep boys?


Wow...when did pep boys start selling half the shit i have in my sig? What's wrong with my sig looking like a bunch of off-the shelf part? That's what they are! My Summit, Steeda, Ford Motorsport and other catalogs have gotten a lot of use.

[jexser]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
1993 Mustang LX 5.0L 5-spd
Vortech S-trim, GT-40 heads, GT-40 intake, E303 cam, Pro-M 75mm Mass air meter w/30lb injectors, 70mm TB w/70mm EGR spacer, 1 5/8 FMS headers,
MAC Prochamber H-pipe, MAC 2.5" cat-back exhaust, MAC underdrive pulleys, Tremec TKO 5-spd, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce clutch, Steeda Tri-AX shifter,
FMS aluminum driveshaft, 3.73 rear end gears, FULL Steeda suspension w/ 5-lug 4-wheel Cobra disk brake conversion, Tokico 5-way adjustable shocks....and a
few other little mods. (Coming soon...small 125 shot of NOS)

hey do you and wicked ss know eachother?
with your signatures lookin like an isle at kragens!!
hey can i be cool and post up an isle at pep boys?


You boys don't have as clue!;)
STEEDA, Vortech, FMS, Pro-M, MAC, and Tremec are sold at a shit-ass parts house? C'mon man, that's like saying I can pick up HKS or June parts at fucking Pep boys!

The shit talking you Neme-boys (other than Dex) have spouted in this thread is the EXACT reason domestic guys don't respect you Honduh guys. To get respect you have to give respect!

Let's see if you Honduh enthusiasts can keep the Civic alive for over 35 years, then you may be able to understand where the Mustang fellas are coming from!

*This is not a flame, just an observation by a "dumestic" owner.

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
your sooo fuckin funny noslow5oh! its just so happens that this fuckin 13 sec car is in the the mid 13s with 3 minor ass bolt-ons. there a few dumestic drivers and crs i respect! give a civic a 350 and i guarantee it there will be no fuckin mustang or fuckin camero that will touch that car. grant it probably wont happen but just think about that!most imports run anywhere from a 17-15 sec quarter times. and for an import to drop almost 3 sec its extremely good! i know most of you dont think so but i really dont care! I WOULD RATHER PUSH MY HONDA THAN DRIVE A DOMESTIC! i give some domestic cars mad props! but mustangs just dont do it for me! just my 2 cents

WTF? why did you target me only when there were others that remarked about the 13 sec thing. I didn't even mean it towards you. I just saw it quoted in someone elses thread so i replyed.

You love your honda and that's fine. Enjoy it or whatever. I like my Mustangs and nothing will EVER change that. You could show me a 10 second honda and I won't even give it more than a glance. I'm the opposite of you. I'd rather push my ford than ever ride in a honda...and I have my reasons. I'm not even gonna go into them because this thread will really get out of hand and will get locked.

It's inevitable that we are gonna talk shit on this...especially when on THIS subject...but why do we gotta take it personally?

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by noslow5oh


It's inevitable that we are gonna talk shit on this...especially when on THIS subject...but why do we gotta take it personally?

OK, i reread what I wrote and maybe it did seem like I made it a bit personal. I don't need to be starting shit online so I apologize for that. I'm sorry.


I'm still gonna have my strong feelings and beleifs on the subject...but i try not to make shit personal by targeting a person or their car....guess I broke my rule. I'm sorry

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
Originally posted by Dex
[QUOTE][i]

If you knew any thing about imports, you would have way more respect for them.

No offence, but you remind me of my Ex girlfriend in the way you judge cars. She would say "ewwie... that car sounded gross" See, she was not a true car enthusiast like myself. I know almost every Minivan and after market provider for those minivans and what year scheme they apply to. I have never owned a minivan, nor would I ever want to. But just the fact that I know the ins and outs of most cars out there on the street, makes me a more knowledgeable Auto Freak. I often find myself reading Off-Road trying to memorize tire sizes for Swampers, and M/Ts... I know quite a bit about 4 wheel drive, IFS (independent front suspension), strait axels, lockers, leaf springs, and steering suspension. I like trucks, but just to haul around a boat (Air Nautique), or a quad (Yamaha Banshee). I do like both domestic and import trucks (back to the 22R 'carbureted' and the 22Re 'FI'). My roots how ever go back to classic domestics. My first love was "The Enchilada", that was a 1965 Impala SS 327. We got it with just the shell and built the engine from scratch.

... What I'm getting at, is that I pride myself on my overall knowledge of automobiles. When I see someone put down a group of cars (imports or domestics), especially multiple brands, for no apparent good reason, it tells me right off the bat that you are not as educated about autos as I am. And I look down upon those that I know that I can crush with my vast knowledge of cars.

noslows0h I think that you should not cut on something that you know nothing about.



What the hell!! I just read that on another thread and I see it here directed at me?? my name was not on the original post...

I know my shit when it comes down to cars. Look at any of my old posts and you see me (for the most part) back up my claims with HP numbers, track times, magazine articles, and other ways. I have never gone off saying "V8's rule, imports suck!" I know my shit when it comes to cars in general. Skylines, 300ZX TT's, Supras, Lancers, WRX's, NSX and S2000's (and others I may have missed) are very kick ass cars. I know their capabilities. I also know the capabilities of domestics too. I know what mods can do to cars. I am always researching times and capabilities of new cars and such.

Some of you guys act like us V8 guys give your car no respect. That's wrong...I'm still gonna like the 300ZX than just ran me hard even if i beat it. But i'm not gonna like the trash talking big mouth driver thinking his car is the shit behind the wheel. I get it all the time. I constantly pull over when i see a bunch of V8 guys hanging out and shoot the shit with them for a while. But every time I get with an mostly import crowd it turns to trash talking "You car is old technology...at least we get better gas milage...and outrageous claims of smoking vettes after putting on their muffler" I'm sorry guys but after a point I got fed up and just stopped trying to see things from their view. I try to be cool but all i find are the asses.

Yes..i know domestic guys are the same way.

[Poisoned Pony]

-+Originally posted by nemesiscivic seriously matt you need to stay out of this shit! if was corrext you got beat by our integ! reguardless if it was fucked up or not you had chosen to race!

regardless or not, I got involved waaaay long time ago. Yeah, my STOCK Cobra got beaten by a modified GSR. Is that a real fucking surprise? He needed a fucking supercharger to beat me. Yeah, I chose to race with a wounded Cobra. Now my Cobra is running good. Too afraid of a snake bite?

BTW Dan, by looking at how your response to my post was typed, it looks like you're angry. Domestics are getting to ya, huh?

[WiCkEd SS]

A dont trip, when I race them they will see the power of the SS MARO its gonna fly by them so hard its gonna rip that 20 foot spoiler with the non matching paint off!!!LOL hAHah

[Edited by WiCkEd SS on 03-26-2001 at 06:37 PM]

[Grrr]

Originally posted by WiCkEd SS
A dont trip, when I race them they will see the power of the SS MARO its gonna fly by them so hard its gonna rip that 20 foot spoiler with the non matching paint off!!!LOL hAHah

[Edited by WiCkEd SS on 03-26-2001 at 06:37 PM]

powerful words...

[TFM]

so do all you V-8 people think hondas are slow??? And whenever is it that Someone posts about a honda beating a V-8 you guys get all riled up. And say shit like ohh "the car" wasn't running right wahh wahh wahhhh... stop making excuses and give props where they are due. i'm sick of hearing V-8s cry when they get beat by a honda.. I respect the V-8s but i don't respect the people who don't respect the four bangers... anywho this post is getting old and aint doing nothing but starting trouble someone close this shit already

[Grrr]

i agree, kinda...

[ghoust]

ok...i give major props to any fast 4. Shit I campaigned a SOHC Vtec for years before I got the stang. And that car of mine was no joke...ran a solid 14.0 flat on the Bottle and have had some crazy kills with it on the freeway as well.

It is a big accomplishment for an inline 4 to beat down a V8 and it takes a lot of hard work and a lot of hard earned money to do that.

But it is noteworthy that u guys have to brag about "oh I killed this V8 and blah blah blah". V8s are the standard that the imports are always gonna be judged upon guys..whether u like that or not. But hey..u killed a V8..more power to ya bro...just dont assume that you are automatically a V8 killer because by that, u are generalizing and trust me..there are far more street/daily driven V8s doing 11s and 12s then there are inline 4s. The horsepower potential for improvement is just greater with a V8 then a 4.

This is the last post for me on this particular thread. Lets just run guys...forget about who drives what..

BRING IT!!

[mr.integra]

v8's aren't slow.. this camaro z28 got me off the line like i was standing still!!! i was cathcing up fast in third, but he put the hazards on me.... imagine if that was an SS.. hehe..

[69fastback]

I did read all the posts but come on how can u be talking shit with a 13 second car. My car ran 13 seconds bone stock.
I also have seen a 00 gt 4.6 sohc run 13.6 bone stock no lie. If any of ur honda or accuras or what ever can run that fast bone stock then ok.

I wish u could get all the parts noslow has at pep boys then i wouldn't have to order shit from summit and have to wait for it all the damn time.

The guy talking about he has never lost to a mustang there must be a bunch of slow ass v6s running around ur part. I cant even count the number of ricers that have told me they have never lost a race and there car runs tens. Then i go to race them and never have to get out of second gear to win. U guys are just full of shit. 11 and 10 second mustangs are common place at a race track and how many ricers do u see ever run that fast. One or two.

These days i don't even bother with a 13 second car it is a waste of my gas.

[LT WHAT?]

Originally posted by jaysgotta2kgsr
in al lhonesty my car sounds meaner than a v8 with exhaust ..

um, does a V8 with a .672 inch cam and dual 4 inch flows count? cuz in that case, i don't THINK so.


as for this import vs domestic thing. i, personally, have not lost to an import in my street car yet. not saying it isn't possible or wont happen. but the day it does is the day i put tags on the 408 and come with the thunder.

[LT WHAT?]

Originally posted by nemesiscivic
give a civic a 350 and i guarantee it there will be no fuckin mustang or fuckin camero that will touch that car. grant it probably wont happen but just think about that!

give a camaro and a mustang the same weight as a civic then. it works both ways. our cars weigh more therefore we need bigger engines for torque.

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by LT WHAT?
Originally posted by nemesiscivic
give a civic a 350 and i guarantee it there will be no fuckin mustang or fuckin camero that will touch that car. grant it probably wont happen but just think about that!

give a camaro and a mustang the same weight as a civic then. it works both ways. our cars weigh more therefore we need bigger engines for torque.

no i totally agree with you on that one.

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by jexser
Originally posted by nemesiscivic
1993 Mustang LX 5.0L 5-spd
Vortech S-trim, GT-40 heads, GT-40 intake, E303 cam, Pro-M 75mm Mass air meter w/30lb injectors, 70mm TB w/70mm EGR spacer, 1 5/8 FMS headers,
MAC Prochamber H-pipe, MAC 2.5" cat-back exhaust, MAC underdrive pulleys, Tremec TKO 5-spd, Billet Flywheel, Centerforce clutch, Steeda Tri-AX shifter,
FMS aluminum driveshaft, 3.73 rear end gears, FULL Steeda suspension w/ 5-lug 4-wheel Cobra disk brake conversion, Tokico 5-way adjustable shocks....and a
few other little mods. (Coming soon...small 125 shot of NOS)

hey do you and wicked ss know eachother?
with your signatures lookin like an isle at kragens!!
hey can i be cool and post up an isle at pep boys?


You boys don't have as clue!;)
STEEDA, Vortech, FMS, Pro-M, MAC, and Tremec are sold at a shit-ass parts house? C'mon man, that's like saying I can pick up HKS or June parts at fucking Pep boys!

The shit talking you Neme-boys (other than Dex) have spouted in this thread is the EXACT reason domestic guys don't respect you Honduh guys. To get respect you have to give respect!

Let's see if you Honduh enthusiasts can keep the Civic alive for over 35 years, then you may be able to understand where the Mustang fellas are coming from!

*This is not a flame, just an observation by a "dumestic" owner.

OK FIRST OF ALL WE POSTED SAYING THAT WE BEAT A CAMARO AND A FEW OTHER CARS. SO WE GET FLAMED ON SO WE START FLAMING BACK . EVERYDAY THERE IS A KILL IN HERE ABOUT A DOMESTIC EATIN AN IMPORT! THERE IS NO NEED TO FLAME AND ANY OF US. I CAN REALLY CARE LESS IF I GET RESPECT FROM ANY OF YOU GUYS IN THIS THREAD. I HAVE QUITE A FEW FREINDS THAT OWN DOMESTICS. YEAH WE PLAY AROUND BUT ITS ALL FOR FUN. BUT HALF OF THE PPL IN HERE TAKE THIS SHIT SOOO SERIOUSLY. I LIKE DOMESTICS DONT ME WRONG BUT I LIKE THE OLDER CARS. I ACTUALLY FULLY RESTORED A 31 MODEL A. SO DONT TELL ME I DONT KNOW SHIT. its just so funny to me that almost every domestic owner gets but hurt when an import is comin up. but oh well im not gonna lost any sleep over any of this shit! not flame either just my 2 cents and my opinion.

[John]

did u know that hondas and acuras have the highest resale value out of any car? think about that before yu buy american ... also u can go buy a 99 gsr for $1000 less than it was rand new with like 20K miles on it and yu can also buy a ford expo new for $40K but after u drive it off the lot its worth $30K ......

so dont bash us guys that are SMART in automobile purchasing .... hondas last 200K miles easy .. how many rustangs oops mustangs sorry it was a typo or camaros so that without a motor rebuild? shit thats more rare than finding a churches chicken without any nuccas in it .. so dont bash us guys that are SMART ..... peace out .. u can flame me for this one all yu want .. but remember u flame because u know im right and it pisses you off.. thats why yur gonna flame me .. ;)

[nemesiscivic]

Originally posted by 69fastback
I did read all the posts but come on how can u be talking shit with a 13 second car. My car ran 13 seconds bone stock.
I also have seen a 00 gt 4.6 sohc run 13.6 bone stock no lie. If any of ur honda or accuras or what ever can run that fast bone stock then ok.

I wish u could get all the parts noslow has at pep boys then i wouldn't have to order shit from summit and have to wait for it all the damn time.

The guy talking about he has never lost to a mustang there must be a bunch of slow ass v6s running around ur part. I cant even count the number of ricers that have told me they have never lost a race and there car runs tens. Then i go to race them and never have to get out of second gear to win. U guys are just full of shit. 11 and 10 second mustangs are common place at a race track and how many ricers do u see ever run that fast. One or two.

These days i don't even bother with a 13 second car it is a waste of my gas.


then you had no reason to post in this thread if we are a waste of your gas. by the way they are many cars that are claiming times well then why is when you get beat by an import you make excuses? no joke i like racing domestics more than imports. domestics give me a better and closer run than almost any import. but you also have to remember this import is stock. runnin the same times as a mustang gt stock.

[John]

HERES SOME FACTS FOR YOU..... SUCKS THAT A STOCK TYPE R RUNS 14.7 DOESNT IT? A 1.8 LITER .. LOOK AT WHAT YUR V8'S RUN .....

http://www.car-stats.com

1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.2 98 Manual
1997 Ford Mustang GT 6.6 15.1 92 Manual
1995 Ford Mustang GT 6.5 15.2 93 Manual
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.9 15.7 88 Unknown
1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6 Manual
1988 Ford Mustang GT 7.2 15.8 Manual
1987 Ford Mustang GT 6.7 15.3 Manual
1985 Ford Mustang GT 7.2 15.9 Manual
1982 Ford Mustang GT 8 Manual

1999 Chevrolet Camaro SS 4.9 13.5 107 Unknown
1998 Chevrolet Camaro SS 5.2 13.7 103 Manual
1996 Chevrolet Camaro SS 5.3 13.8 Unknown

you can hate me if you want but remember im getting paid to talk shit on here all day while eatin my donuts and coffee... hahhahaaa



[Edited by jaysgotta2kgsr on 03-27-2001 at 08:43 AM]

[NemesisKwky]

to much for me to read so I'm just going to say this.............. I'm tired !

[ghoust]

Originally posted by jaysgotta2kgsr
HERES SOME FACTS FOR YOU..... SUCKS THAT A STOCK TYPE R RUNS 14.7 DOESNT IT? A 1.8 LITER .. LOOK AT WHAT YUR V8'S RUN .....

http://www.car-stats.com

1999 Ford Mustang GT 5.5 14.2 98 Manual
1997 Ford Mustang GT 6.6 15.1 92 Manual
1995 Ford Mustang GT 6.5 15.2 93 Manual
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.9 15.7 88 Unknown
1991 Ford Mustang GT 7.3 15.6 Manual
1988 Ford Mustang GT 7.2 15.8 Manual
1987 Ford Mustang GT 6.7 15.3 Manual
1985 Ford Mustang GT 7.2 15.9 Manual
1982 Ford Mustang GT 8 Manual

1999 Chevrolet Camaro SS 4.9 13.5 107 Unknown
1998 Chevrolet Camaro SS 5.2 13.7 103 Manual
1996 Chevrolet Camaro SS 5.3 13.8 Unknown

you can hate me if you want but remember im getting paid to talk shit on here all day while eatin my donuts and coffee... hahhahaaa



[Edited by jaysgotta2kgsr on 03-27-2001 at 08:43 AM]

jay...compare the Honda R to the Ford R

2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R 4.7 13.2.

and compare the GT model to the GSR...

2000 Integra GS-R 7.2 15.7

Enuff said =)

[Jaggorri]

OKay, this isn't a flame, so everyone put their guns away and just read.

Dan and John- You guys have a lot of valid points, but you are going about proving them in the wrong manner. When you throw up a post full of insults and swearing, no one takes you seriously. It makes you look much less intelligent than I know both of you are, so it might be wise to come back with facts instead of insults. Trust me, there is no faster way to shut people up ;)

TFM- You statement about the Integra outperforming a Mustang is completely false. This was proven by Sport Compact car when they compard a Mustang GT (not even a Cobra, but a GT) to the big bad Type R. The Mustang subsiquently walked on the Type R in the slalom, 1/4, straight line speed, and the road course. The Type R only beat the Mustang in the Autocross course after it was redesigned countless times to favor the Type R. If the Mustang was destroying the Type R in all of those categories bone stock, imagine what it would do if it had a Grigg's suspension setup. I think utter annihilation is the term we're looking for here.

Now don't get me wrong as I love Type R's, but even they are not as invincible as everyone thinks.

Everyone- All of us have different tastes in cars. Some people like domestic muscle, while other love small, nimble, four cylinder imports. (Then there are those of us who own the bastard children of both communities, which would be four banger domestics, but I disgress.) Yes, I am partial to domestics simply because I was raised with them and my first streetrace was watching two 9 second cars go at it on Bailey Road. This doesn't mean I hate imports or favor one over the other in any way, shape or form. I respect any car that the owner has put work into, be it a Civic CVCC or a Skyline R33, a Dodge Colt or a Shelby GT 500. What I'm trying to get accross to you guys is pissing and moaning and yelling at each other proves nothing and solves nothing. The only thing it does is make everyone look like a bunch of three year olds screaming and stamping their feet yelling "I'm right! I'm right!" Both types of cars have their nitches in racing, and we're all car enthusiasts in one way or another, so I don't see why everyone can't just shut up and get along. We're not talking rocket science here folks.

Here is some food for thought for both sides: There is no replacement for displacement, plain and simple. Kwk's car runs 13's with his mods, which is fast as hell for his car considering what he has done to it. With the same mods though, a 97 Cobra will pull 11's in the 1/4 on street tires. Now, with that said, It takes several thousand dollars in suspension modifications for any V8 (excluding the Cobra R) to even run with a 3rd gen RX-7 R1 on a road course. Most require engine mods too.

Like I said before, every type of car, including my little Neon, has it's own racing nitche. If everyone can remember that, then I don't see why all of us car enthusiasts can't get along.


Byron

[John]

well said can i hump you please?
okay okay startin today i will respect these dudes if they respect me .... but only if they respect my 13 second snatchback that only costed $3000 in all

[WiCkEd SS]

On my way to work on the freeway I saw this hatchback civic(grey) driving crazy and I wish I had the SS today so I could of showed him what the KONI's are about but hes just cuttin everyone off and then I see hella smoke and he looses control and hits the right divider and then flys all the way to the other side and hits that wall too,and when I pass by hes not in the car??Maybe be someone know this guy ???This was on 580 towards pleasenton.CrAzY but funny!!!!!!!!

[TFM]

like i said before i'd take the type R any day over a GT for it's looks and performance... and take the money i save on gas and insurance and make it perform as well as the GT, and after i'm bored with the type R i'd sell it and get a high resale and buy an RSX type R. Or maybe one day a Silvia S16. Don't get me wrong V-8s are fast, but driving my acura seems more refined and more responsive than driving the big V-8s

[TFM]

that shit aint funny, you dumb shit why didn't you see if he was alright...how would you like it if you crashed and some fucker was laughing at you while u were injured or dying. some people have no respect... thats why ppl get shot up in school nowadays they laugh when someone dies... wtf is up with that

[ghoust]

ok...please close this thread..this is going nowhere.

[WiCkEd SS]

When I passed by the guy was gone,do you understand,took off cuz he didnt want to pay the price of not knowing how to drive so fUCK YEA im gonna laugh when I first got on the freeway I saw this guy and told my girlfriend that he is gonna crash its his own stupid fault so shut your mouth.And if some other people were involved then Id help but thats what happens when you drive A car like that!

[TFM]

you made it seem like he flew out of the car, but still i wouldnt be laughing if i saw a car accident... anywho keep it safe out there