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wee man
07-25-2003, 07:00 AM
Hey every-one. Within the next year im going to go take a racing school to get my SCCA racing license,and im debating on the car i should get to race(im going to drive it around when not racing but its going to be mostly for racing).Heres what ive narrowed it down to.....Honda Prelude,Honda Civic HB, or Volkswagon Golf. What do you guys think of these for road racing. I know some of you out there probally will dis the Hondas but ive seen alot of Road-racing so i was thinking they should have some potential in that....right? Well thanks in advance,
Chris
CoNFuSioUs2002
07-25-2003, 07:51 AM
why you planning on honda? the early golf gti's are good, miata's, nissan se-r's, neon acr, 1st and 2nd gen rx-7's ect. it all depends on what class you wanna run.
wee man
07-25-2003, 07:59 AM
yea i was probally going for the golf because ive always been a fan of them, but im not sure yet.
Longroof
07-25-2003, 08:25 AM
Please post in the proper forums. This is the second post Ive had to move in here in a matter of days.
wee man
07-25-2003, 09:20 AM
sorry long roof. now i feel like a total dumb@ss
bigbadgreen
07-25-2003, 10:22 AM
what racing are you going to be doing, scca covers a ton of racing?
TypeIII
07-25-2003, 11:52 AM
If you're planning on using the same car to "move up" later, I would recommend a Civic HB. Parts are easy to find. :D Just be ready, it gets really expensive, really quickly.
DrUnK3N SyKo
07-25-2003, 01:10 PM
let me know how it goes, ive also been planning to do the same .. going to racing school in my Civic and then changing cars to an old se-r or a dodge neon ARC .... btw, how old are you?
DrUnK3N SyKo
07-25-2003, 04:55 PM
sorry, too late to edit, have you seen this thread?
http://www.streetracing.org/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74600
You do realize that you probably wont want to daily drive a car that is IT prepared, right? It isnt like drag racing where ya run what ya bring. Your car has to be built to a certain spec. Full cage, fire system, extremely stiff IT legal suspention
So my advice is to buy the cheapest IT eligible car you can find.
Well it all depends on what class your going to run in
Get the GCR and talke a look at that and here are some pages for Production and IT, 2 of the more populor bproduction based classes
http://www.h-production-scca.com <~~ for production
http://www.improvedtouring.com/ <~~ for IT cars
Enjoy
ApexKiller1
08-28-2003, 10:53 AM
I saw your thread Wee man about the SCCA too and I am going to address a number of things here for you as it sounds like you are looking for some real info.
Before you get into racing you have decide what you want to do in racing.
Autocross is racing in a parking lot around cones against the clock. Fastest driver in class wins.
Track days or HPDE are where you run your street car on a real race track like Laguna Seca. This is not racing just high speed track driving, there are no winners.
Time Trial is where you run a real race track like Laguna against the clock. Fastest driver in class wins.
Road racing is wheel to wheel racing against other cars.
Now there are two groups to run with for most of these.
The SCCA only does autocross and road racing events. They have been around for ever and have solid programs. The group does suffer from a lot of politics and the rules are very strict on car prep and they only offer autocross for a guy with a street car.
NASA offers all of the activities above. They have been around for like 15 years and have solid programs too. The thing that makes NASA more attractive to a lot of people is that the classes are more open allowing for more modifications and so on. They also offer the track days and time trials which the SCCA does not. With NASA you can start with a '85 GTI bone stock, run some autocrosses or track day/HPDE ad a few mods and keep running. Then move up to the time trials all with a street car or to go racing by adding all the safety stuff like a roll cage. NASA is really about bringing drivers up through their system. NASA also does a better job leveling the fields and they have a great safety record.
I run with both groups but NASA is by far the most friendly and fun.
Picking a car is really pretty easy. With both clubs there are classes for EVERYTHING all the way up. Keep in mind that modifications will move you up classes. With the SCCA a simple intake will put you in a class that is VERY competitive and you will be out gunned. So read the rule books if you are competing.
As for mods. Tires should come first, then brakes. You don't need big brakes just better then stock. Stainless lines, high temp fluid and better pads is all you really need. Then go to the suspension. Coil overs are illegal in many SCCA classes so beware.
With NASA any mod is dealt with a bit different. Just an intake is not going to put you in a prepared class. They do it by number of mods and the type of mods being performed.
You also mentioned going to a professional race school. There is no need for that expense when you are starting out. When you run the NASA track day/HPDE you get professional instruction for free.
Good luck man.
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