Anyone know this engine's stats??

[Vtec_INSIDE]

I'm trying to figure out if this is the stock engine my car should have... I'm 99.9% sure that it is but just need confirmation. The engine code is D15B7. It is in my 92 CX HB.

The reason I ask is because I seem to be beating alot of cars that I really shouldn't have any chance against. The most noticeable would have to be two people that I work with. One has a 97 SI Coupe(automatic) the other has a 98 SI Coupe(Manual) The other day all three of us hit the highway after work, I completely left them on the on ramp, (my car is slammed so I had a bit of an advantage) but even after we hit the straight they had nothing on me, I just walked away from them. And a few weeks ago I went at it with an Integra, I'm not to familiar with tegs, so I'm not sure which model. It was a bit older though(did not have the round lights) Anyway, me and him stayed dead even up to about 120 KMH neither of us gained or dropped an inch! I just bought my car and there are no noticeable performance mods on my ride other than an exhaust.

If this is the stock engine can anyone think of anything that could explain this? Or do you guys think that it was a fluke.

[Daniel]

i'd have to say it was a fluke. the D15 doesn't put out too much HP. considering your car's a CX, it has to be a fluke. unless, your car might be really light and the other's had heavy cars or something. don't know how much Si's weigh or teggies weigh but could be a possibility.

[Nigron]

Im pretty sure they didnt make Sis in 97 or 98 oh wait as second...I KNOW :)..do you mean EX? probley a fluke

[Vtec_INSIDE]

Yeah they made si's those years. I know this for a fact. I beleive it was the 99 or 2000 model in which they didn't make any. Also I'm in Canada if this makes a difference.

Ok so we've got two flukes. Is it possible that there is something done to my engine that I don't know about? Like what could increase performance but not be visible to the eye? Pistons, camshaft, bla bla bla I don't know anymore... little help here.

[Nigron]

Yea, Im not sure about canada..sorry
yea, cams, pistons, valves, springs, milled head, port and polish, higher compression

[_Keith_]

Could just be the people raced didnt know how to race! Remember the first time you street raced? Shifting at 4000 RPM!

[klenboy]

Actually don't be surprised that your hatchback (CX) beat an SI because you have the lightest Honda Hatchback known to man and the D15B7 really does kick ass! I mean I have a Civic DX sedan (94) with the same engine and all I did is put an intake and header and advanced the timing (I think around 20 BTDC) and even GSR's have trouble leaving my ass. Remember these engines have more torque at lower RPM than the VTEC engines (can be really noticeable when bolt-ons are added). I guess the people you raced don't know how to drive their cars because they should be able to walk away from you on top-end.

[Vtec_INSIDE]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I mean you should have seen my face when I realized I was actually pulling on them on the top end.

The thing is though, even though your DX has the same engine, I beleive your stock HP is about 92 while mine is a pathetic 70HP. Unless I'm totally wrong on this account.

Thanks for your help

[Nigron]

klenboy, I also own a DX (94) How do you advance your timing? are you talking about cams?

[klenboy]

Originally posted by Nigron
klenboy, I also own a DX (94) How do you advance your timing? are you talking about cams?

No I'm talking about ignition timing. You advance it by turning your distributor counter clock wise. Once you do you get better response on takeoff. Advance it and then test and see how the car runs on the streets and on the highway. Look for responsiveness and feel for the power throughout the rpm band.

[civicman38]

I have heard that in some other countries that. Even the CX comes with Vtec> its also the lightest model.

[Vtec_INSIDE]

Well I am from canada, but my engine is not vtec. I think for the most part Canadian and American versions are identicle.

[Dreamspeed]

whats up? i think i can answer you questions. In canada the si model is the ex in the us and the sir in canada is the si in the us. Therefore the si vtec inside is talking about is actually a ex model which has about 125 horsepower with a d16 motor. As the vtec_insides car, i have the exact car and it was made in canada too so it should be exactly the same. The d15 motor for the cx has 70 hp to the flywheel which equals more or less 50 hp to the wheels the car weights 2094 pounds. The si (EX) model has around 125 horsepower to the flywheel and about 100 ( probably less because you lose more hp with a automatic tranny) the car is around 2600 pounds. Therefore there is a slight chance that you can actually beat the civics. But as for the integra, most likely the other guy is just dumb the integras (probably a 92-93 model) has a b18b or b18c motor which has 140 or 175 hp so theres technically no way you could keep up with it unless theres something wrong with his car or he just can't drive. If you have any more questions concerning you car you can email me at dreamspeed_1@mail.streetracing.org. peace!

[Vtec_INSIDE]

Yeah I agree with you on the integra totally. If that guy new how to drive he should have handed me my ass. Who knows, maybe he wasn't even trying?? Of course if that is true then that means I had to go full tilt to keep up with him..... oh my poor weak cx... :) Thanks for your help I appreciate it. I think it's really the weight difference between my car and the other civics that gave me the advantage.

What do you have done to your car?

I have basically no performance enhancers, but I am tryin to make my car look really nice and clean. Here's a short list of what I have. Most of it was bought with the car.

Neuspeed Race Springs
Momo Rims
Dunlop D60's 205/60/14
Momo pedals,e-break handle,shift knob,steering wheel
Most SI options, guage cluster,both mirrors,sunroof,etc(no ac)
I'm doing detailing right now. White and Blue scheme
All body moldings are colour matched to the car
And I will be installing a Xenon body kit Style 204

That's all I can think of right now... sorry for the novel.

[Dreamspeed]

vtec_inside i assume you were talking to me in your post right? well i've had the car for about two years now and in the beginning it all about looks :
grillcraft grill, shaved emblems painted side mirrors side skirts and rear wing, gsr rims, levoc racing pedals, razo shift knob, apc euro style gauge cover, projector lights, rsr springs, apex exhaust etc, then i went for the sound so i got a clarion pro audio head unit infinity kappa 6x9 infinity 5.25 fosgate 500 watt amp and kicker solobaric s10 l7, now everything is about performance so i just swapped up my cx moter for a b16 about a week or so ago (there is such a big difference you wouldn't believe it) but i still love my tiny cx motor which is sitting in my garage right now.

As for your motor isn't it a d15b8? the d15b7 is the old dx motor i think and it has more horsepower. Later on the dx motor changed into a d16 i think. And i think you are on the right track to making your car clean. Nothing too wild, just make it look nice and keep it clean, good luck on your journey to make that cx one hell of a looker!!!

[Vtec_INSIDE]

Originally posted by Dreamspeed
As for your motor isn't it a d15b8? the d15b7 is the old dx motor i think and it has more horsepower. Later on the dx motor changed into a d16 i think.

Hella thanks for the compliments, your ride sounds pretty tight. Anyway, about the engine code. I checked it again and I do have D15B7?? Could this maybe be a canada/american difference. Or am I actually makeing a bit more then the stock 70 HP? If someone could clear this up I would appreciate it. Thanks again.

[Nigron]

With the very high chance of you having a D15B7 like my american dx you would have a rating of 102 hp. Because your car is canadian that might be a difference...

[Dreamspeed]

i think nigron might be right about you having a dx motor, but there are differences in engine codes depending on countries, like the jdm type r motor and GSR motor are both b18 not b18c1 and b18c5 like the us, also the b16a in japan have no numbers like b16a2/b16a3 in the us, My civic is made in Canada but it has engine code d16b8, one way to tell is if it says 16 valves on the engine valve cover, cause the dx motor has 16 valves and the cx motor only has 8 valves, hope this helps

[gtc9977]

Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about but perhaps you have a Si head on the D15. I also seen a CX hatchback that looked pretty quick. The driver said all he had was an Si ECU, but I don't know about that being logical.

[Vtec_INSIDE]

Well I've already posted this in the Import thread, but I thought I'd let everyone else here know since you guys are still throwing Idea's at me. I have done some checking around and have confirmed that I do in fact have a DX engine in my car.

I'm not sure who put it there or when..... but it's there alright. Thanks for all your help guys, if you hadn't pointed me in the right direction about the different engine codes and specifics I still wouldn't know what was going on!

:) :) :)

[civicSIguy]

ive got a 92dx4door, and i just have the normal bolt on's, h i e, and i can usually beat ls's and si's, its all on how you drive too

[Nick]

Originally posted by Dreamspeed
But as for the integra, most likely the other guy is just dumb the integras (probably a 92-93 model) has a b18b or b18c motor which has 140 or 175 hp so theres technically no way you could keep up with it unless theres something wrong with his car or he just can't drive.

1990 Acura Integra:
RS-1.8L, 130hp
LS-1.8L, 130hp
GS-1.8L, 130hp

1991 Acura Integra:
RS-1.8L, 130hp
LS-1.8L, 130hp
GS-1.8L, 130hp

1992 Acura Integra:
RS-1.8L, 140hp
LS-1.8L, 140hp
GS-1.8L, 140hp
GSR-1.7L, 160hp

1993 Acura Integra:
RS-1.8L, 140hp
LS-1.8L, 140hp
GS-1.8L, 140hp
GSR-1.7L, 160hp

And the engine code is B18A, not C(C is for the 3rd Gen GSRs)...and the 1.7L engine, I am not sure about...It probably wasnt the 1.7L as they are very rare, but very nice.

Just clearing it up for you folks not familiar with the 2nd Gen Integras...

Peace:D




[Edited by SLO2ndGenIntegra on 04-05-2001 at 03:14 PM]

[CFourDX]

hey, v-tec inside, that is the same code i have on my engine, its the engine for a 92 dx, im pretty sure, cause thats what i got, so it doesnt have the power of a cx, its got 101 hp, vs. 70hp, and 89 torque, thats all the stock numbers