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Rabbit6
03-10-2001, 10:51 PM
It all began one day last July...
Several of my VW boyz were itching for some action.
We'd all but scared off the local Hondas and
Acuras from our meeting place. The suggestion was
made, "Mississauga late night drags." Seven pairs of
eyes lit up in anticipation. The legendary late night
drags, an illegal organization, practically a cult,
the main task for the local constabulary's new
helicopter, featured in newspapers, and recently
subject to a tv show on the A&E network. Yes, the late
night drags. Egos inflated and smashed, exotic scents
of nitrous, drag rubber and high octane fuel. Every
car you can imagine, it was an opportunity to destroy
or be destroyed by any automotive flavour you can
think of. We arrived at the meeting point in
Mississauga around 1 am. There was still plenty of
time before anything would happen. Cops came and went,
people were milling about, inspecting eachother's
vehicles, pointing sometimes with awe and sometimes
with mockery. The atmosphere was charged with an
aggressive tension. Most females would have undoubtedly
scorned the testosterone saturated machoism. We all
know what it is about. True to form, you could have
counted the number of girls there on one hand.
Suddenly, engines were being started and we were off.
Even on main city streets, the speeds travelled at
were break-neck. We arrived in a remote industrial
sector. It was perfect. A four lane road, flanked by
factories and a corn field, with a hill at one end
obscuring the city's view of our activities, and a
stoplight at the other end. Paced off, the light was
exactly a Q-mile from the finish line. We watched as
the races began, hardcore mustangs trailer queen
corvettes and everything else imaginable. The I was
bitten by the bug. Not having the most exemplary
driving record, I hadn't planned to race. Things
changed in a hurry. A turbo colt driver challenged me.
So much for will power. We met at the stop light,
which was being triggered via the crosswalk button by
some spectators. The light went green and I
launched... by third gear, he was so far behind me, I
let off the gas and coasted, turning off into the
crowd at the finish line. That was just an hors
d'eurve. I searched the crowd looking for a suitable
competitor. Some ass in a mid nineties civic with
guages on the hood refused to race for anything less
than fiftey bucks. Screw that. Then I spotted it.
Almost as if lit from above, there stood a new Integra
Type R. The much revered, bewinged japanese-rocket was
almost calling to me. Taunting me. I was suffused by
emotions of fear and hate all at once... I know my
Rabbit is fast, but just how fast? Years of
engineering and careful tuning have awarded me with
consistant top three autocross placings, and an
unbeaten street race record against anything up to
mildly tuned Mustangs. But I'd never lined up with an
'R'. Typically, Honda and Acura drivers around here, when
challenged will ask what you're driving before
accepting or declining. Piss poor sportsmanship, as
far as i'm concerned. I accept unconditionally, as
every race is a learning experience, win lose or draw.
This Integra driver was ttue to form.
"What are you driving?" he asks me.
"That Rabbit." I replied. With an amused snort, he
shrugs and patronizingly accepts. We met at the light,
and lined up as it turned red. My blood was boiling
with adrenaline. My breath came in shallow gasps and
my hand shook on the shifter. I closed my eyes, and
slowed down my mind and held my breath... As I opened
my eyes, and slowly exhaled, time seemed to slow down
to a crawl. The don't walk sign flashed once a week
for an eternity before the other light finally turned
red. The Type R was revving its engine, it sounded
like an indy car, though played at low speed on a
tape. I could almost see the red light go dark before
the green light ignited. Time stopped. In that split
second all emotions seemed to leave me. I was numb.
Tunnel vision closed in, teeth clenched, my heart
started again and with an almost audible bang, time
resumed. I had feathered the clutch at mid RPM and
acheived the perfect launch. I could hear the scream
of that Vtec beside me. Second gear came with rubber.
I kept my eyes glued on the tach. 5500rpm shifts kept
my 2L 8v in the fat of the torque band. The lane
divider lines flashed past, in a ever-hastening
flicker vertigo. I snatched third gear without letting
off the gas and my German rocket lept forward. My
overdrive 5th gear left me revving 4th gear to never
before seen numbers, when i dared to glance sideways
for the first time. There was nothing there, but the
blur of darkened factories. The side mirror revealed
the nose of a Type R about half a carlength behind me.
I crossed the finish line at 7000 RPM, way above my
useful power range, but victorious nevertheless. As I
coasted, i fought to keep a smile off my face. It was
useless. If ever i'd worn a shit-eating grin, it was
then. I turned around, and approached the crowd. I was
enveloped by cheering people, patting my hood,
jostling to shake my hand and yell encouragment. Above
it all i heard another voice... A voice laced with
shame and anger. It was the Acura driver, wanting a
rematch. Naturally, I accepted and we lined up again.
This time I beat him by two carlengths. Did he give up
or blow his launch? It matters not. I was elated. I
just beat the best Acura has to offer (save for the
NSX) twice... Excuses, in their expected abundance
were irrelevant. I had shown Volkswagen dominance. I
was at the top, or so I thought. The humiliated Type R
driver set me up against a mid 90's Civic. It was very
plain, lacking stickers, cheesey yellow painted single wipers, wings etc. I
felt i should quit while I was ahead, but the Integra
driver pressed hard to set this race up... I really
wasn't going to bother, until the civic driver said
it'd be a waste of time. "for me?" I asked.
"No, for me," He said.
That did it. This punk stepped outta line. We met at
the start line, and the light was triggered. I had a
pretty poor launch, but ignoring that, he still pulled
a little further ahead every gear. No turbo whistle,
no supercharger whine, no nitrous smoke.... I couldn't
believe it. There goes the only honda on the planet
that I have respect for, I thought. He got me by a
carlength and a half. Yep, the only one I respect, but
now that car is my obsession. I'll see him again, only next
time, I will beat him. Count on it.

Grrr
03-10-2001, 11:10 PM
damn dude, no reason to be shy on details. if your gonna write a post, give details.

j/k...i wish our races were that organizied. we all just line up all over route' 66 - cops - cars - racers - girls...

Rabbit6
03-10-2001, 11:31 PM
hehehe!
sounds fun!

i need my summer car.... i'm shaking... withdrawl... hehehe

GolfTT
03-11-2001, 01:44 AM
Nice runs dude! My project is going to be an mk1 with a 1.8t engine. It's great to hear stories like this about dubs and especially one that is so well written. I can't wait to get my drag radials and start getting out to the track this year.

Tim

Rabbit6
03-11-2001, 09:26 AM
I race in solo II, track lapping days and of course grudge matches at the local drag strip. incidentally, the drag strip (cayuga speedway, ontario) just opened a road course, which i'm looking forward to tearing up this summer!

1.8T in a wabbit!! cool... even stock, that's cool.... naturally, it'll be chipped etc i expect... hehehe.

rideny
03-11-2001, 09:56 AM
that had to be the best kill story i have ever read.
Good kill man.

iluva juicytwat
03-11-2001, 01:34 PM
have you ever herd the term, "to make a long story short" ? heh but nice story like something id read in penthouse but this was car related. uh yeh i would say good job on yer win or watever but i got tired of reading all this so i jus made a coment and shit. peace where the hell is mignnidhhahkfjshhd ? never herd of that city mang

Rabbit6
03-11-2001, 03:08 PM
Mississauga... near toronto ontario canada. yup, when we're not shivering in igloos, we do a lil racing way up here in the great white north! =)

ridge
03-11-2001, 06:48 PM
Great Story, hahaha... are you gonna write a book soon?

What mods do you have?

and speaking helicopters... I heard about 1/2 yr ago in HK, a police helicopter caught 10 Lancer EVOs and STi WRX all racing in the same time!

Rabbit6
03-11-2001, 07:06 PM
Hm... complete suspension, carbon brake pads on the front, very high compression 1984cc 8 valve engine with european gti camshaft, full exhaust, mild port job, excellent gearing and tire diameter. And a very light car, of course! =)

markGSX
03-11-2001, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Rabbit6
my German rocket lept forward


you're talking about your car, right?

peace!

Rabbit6
03-11-2001, 09:07 PM
don't you find it funny how the opposition stabs you with little cheap shots? Did i not admit that i was ultimately beaten by a honda? i guess good sportsmanship need not apply either.

Dv5GreddyCivic
03-11-2001, 11:07 PM
You should write a book man...that was the best kill story ive heard. If you ever come down here to the bay, ask for the lime green civic. We can work something out..... :P

Rabbit6
03-12-2001, 11:50 AM
I'll drive down there in my stinky diesel rabbit winter car and have you a Miles Per Gallon race... hehehe.

HyTech R
03-12-2001, 03:36 PM
yeah i once ran a rabbit too...It was so cute and white...LMFAO!!!!!!! ok jk i am bored...peace!

ridge
03-12-2001, 05:46 PM
cool mods, I like it.... it brings character.

whats ur dynoed HP reading @ the wheels? or an estimate...
also whats ur car's weight and 1/4 time?

Rabbit6
03-12-2001, 07:30 PM
when i had 1500 km on the engine, i ran it up on the dyno. it put 97hp down to the wheels. this type R race was after a year's worth of breaking in, a much better suited camshaft, with 3 degrees advance cam timing, and a year's worth of much more intelligent tuning. I think by the time of the race i'd squeezed 125-135 ish hp at the wheels. Another big helper was stupidly low gearing... hehehe. i jammed a 4.25:1 ring and pinion gearset in the tranny, and was running p215/50ZR13 R compound chubz, which impoved the accelleration even more due to there small diameter and light weight. The car is completely empty except for the front seats, though i'm not stupid enough to leave the spare tire at home, and carry it too. hehe. I estimate 1840lbs with driver and gas. Best Q-mile time was 14.9. again, that was with the not so good cam, and the oldschool tuning. The other problem was i had to put it into fifth gear to complete the q-mile. My fifth is a really tall overdrive, dropping the rpm by almost 1300, and it's pretty well game over in the acceleration department after that. I had almost a two and a half seconds in fifth gear before crossing the finish line. I figure with a close ratio fifth gear, and the state of tune i've since achieved, a 14.3 is not out of the question. Never proven though. Sold that engine to a friend who's gonna drop it into a nice 2 door 1984 Jetta, so i guess i'll never find out for sure.
Well, i'm off to texas for a week. Hope to read some cool new race stories when i get back. Cheers, all!

bcastell
07-18-2001, 03:00 PM
that was the best and most exciting story I have read in a long time props to you for beating that type r and I bet if it wasnt for the bad launch you would have beaten him. Keep the vdub atories comeing you'll be hearing mine every so often laters.

gbhsflip
07-19-2001, 01:16 AM
Because SRO has seriously turned shitty, I highly doubt Mr. Rabbit continues to post or even checks out this website anymore.

If so, Props on the kill, maybe you've even beaten that civic by now.

late

importtuner75
07-19-2001, 06:39 AM
:) has anyone ever heard about the story of the turtle and the rabbit:eek: check it out...it's a good 1:cool:

silude
07-19-2001, 10:15 AM
awesome story:)

MRTWINCAM
07-20-2001, 08:36 AM
I don't beleive it you know why??
I didn't read the post it seems like it was too much to read..

project DC2
07-20-2001, 09:17 PM
i can sweear i read this story a long ass time ago !!:confused:

Captain Hook
07-21-2001, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by MRTWINCAM
I don't beleive it you know why??
I didn't read the post it seems like it was too much to read..

I think that's a bullshit reason. It can't be true because it's too long? Would you prefer a two sentence "i downshifted and smoked his bitch ass" kill story? I think the fact that it is it's length (which I found perfect length for a story) makes it more believable, since most intelligent, descriptive people with a knack for writing (i.e. Mr. Rabbit here), tend to vividly describe their experiences when relating them.

And ithink143, that's probably because the original post was made in March. Heh. You're probably joking though, right?

Personally, I thought the story was great. Nice work, Rabbit6, I hope you'll write more.

CoNFuSioUs2002
07-21-2001, 08:37 AM
I would like to see his car run the type r through some twisties. bye bye type r

Chiaouzu
07-22-2001, 12:40 AM
Originally posted by CoNFuSioUs2002
I would like to see his car run the type r through some twisties. bye bye type r


twisties, drag, whatever.. I would just like to see that race

CoNFuSioUs2002
07-22-2001, 08:58 AM
Originally posted by TypeIII
Why is it so hard to believe that a Rabbit smoked a TypeR? An Integra TypeR is by no means a fast drag car. Stock it does a mid to low 14 with a VERY good driver. A gutted rabbit can be less than 2000lb which is about 2/3 of what a TypeR would weigh in. With good gearing (which he has) and decent amount of power (which he also has) it really isn't all that hard to pull on an Integra. :rolleyes: Just so you know... Fear not the newer/prettier VW's (if there was ever a pretty VW built), but worry about the old and ugly A1's and such... Those are BAD ASS. :cool: That is because honda boys can't have their "god like" type r loose to a Rabbit. I have actuially had thoughts of buying an older golf and seting it up for auto-x but i really don't have anywhere to put it, i guess i'm going to have to wait till i move out of my house.

HyTech R
07-22-2001, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by CoNFuSioUs2002
That is because honda boys can't have their "god like" type r loose to a rabbit.

:eek: I am not a honda boy:eek: heeeeeheeeeeee ok im just bored:p soweeeeeee

CoNFuSioUs2002
07-22-2001, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by NiNed8iNtEgTyPeR


:eek: I am not a honda boy:eek: heeeeeheeeeeee ok im just bored:p soweeeeeee lol, you know what i'm sayin.

Chiaouzu
07-22-2001, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by TypeIII
Why is it so hard to believe that a Rabbit smoked a TypeR?

I don't think that it is hard to beleive... I think that is funny. if I were to see that race, I would be laughing my ass off the whole time...

Rabbit6
06-20-2003, 07:40 PM
this car's coming back out with a VR6!

Dv5GreddyCivic
06-20-2003, 11:53 PM
What the hellllllllll, I posted to this thread days ago.....wow

Dv5GreddyCivic
06-20-2003, 11:53 PM
What the hellllllllll, I posted to this thread days ago.....wow

Fred.The.Baddie
06-21-2003, 02:30 AM
Daaaaaamn are you going to have fun with the VR6! ;);)

Rabbit6
07-28-2008, 02:51 AM
heya people. Long time no come here.
Still have this rabbit, which had a VR6 for a while but now sits engineless, awaiting another obsession of sorts.
I've been playing with diesel over the last few years.
Check out the vids of my turbo diesel rabbit in the autocross. It beat all sorts of contenders before finally being eliminated by a supercharged miata!
YouTube - vw rabbit turbo diesel autocross race (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2NQQWPUyPw)

XtremeModifier
07-28-2008, 03:04 PM
lol. I just wish I had the time to watch the vid... were you running ProSolo? (I'm assuming so, since you were "beating all sorts of contenders" - typical solo is, well, timed runs, and fastest run wins, with a few little changes).

Got any pics?