Corona

[pstevens]

ok you guys i just bought a 1969 toyota corona for 200 buck. the thing is that if its worth fixing up.it runs and is in good shape just needs a bumper and fender. and if its posable to do a swap. other words im new to old toyota's and would like to get in to it cause front wheel drive aint no fun need that rear wheel drive:D so any help or info would be greatful as far as where to buy parts and what can be down to my corona. thanks

[pstevens]

auto cross it. swap just to mess with

[pstevens]

it has the 4 speed in it. i haven't really bought it. a friend of mine is holding it for me till sat. i think i'm not going to get it.

[Moloko]

I'd get it, it looks awsome. Put a chevy 6cyl in it, some minor suspension tuning, some nice wheels and body work and it'd rock.

[Buggsy]

Hmmmm. You live in San Hose CA. and you have to worry about emmisions, unless you buy a pre-1971 car. So a car that old can be turbocharged, dual blow through webers, header with no catalytic converter, high compression, any cam. 3tC has hemi shaped combustion chambers with pretty large valves. Lot of guys in Puerto Rico building these engines up. What engine did this car come with? Lots of room under the hood for a centrifical blower. Do you have the talent to do the work yourself?
If it was me, I'd choose a newer and lighter Corolla and turbo the hell out of it with a junk yard turbo.

[CoNFuSioUs2002]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
autocross?!? hmm i cant imagine that old chasis ever handling very well. datsun 510's???? starlets????

[Ninja]

I always here people talking about being original and doing things no one else has done... then they go out and buy a civic or mustang. I guess im no different... I bought an 86... but i bought it because i dont have much money to work with from the start and so i need a car with lots of available used aftermarket parts and sales and such...

If i had the money I would pick up the corona... and who says you have to build it for race. its a '69 right? your talking about a 34 year old car... like PC said, a collector is some people eyes. why not try restoring it, then turning around and selling it as a classic and make your money back for your race car.

If you have to race it how hard can it be to fix up? check other toyota cars for interchangability... lower it, some decent shocks/struts, good tires and you have the base for a decent autox car... set yourself apart from the rat race. -Ninja

[newbie]

nice car. too nice to be fucked around with IMO. if it were me it prolly restore it ala gangster style (matrix car). and whatever you do, please dont sell out by putting a domestic v8 in it. stick with whatever make its from, dont turn it into a crossdresser

[S-Type1]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
i said it before and ill say it again:


to the average guy with average pockets, that car will never be made fast.


PC,
you try to compare it to a corolla, but those arent fast either, yes i know some mangos turn good 1/4 ETs but can you drive those on the street? would you want to? Probably not. Same as if you auto-x it, if you mod that thing to handle nice, its not gonna be fun to drive outside of the track.

I dont disagree a light RWD platform makes a good drag car, and maybe i did underestimate its potential, but theres alot of work going into making that car fast. It wont run strong or handle well for cheap. That cars not gonna become anything special without alot of cash, alot of cash that could have been spent on another better looking/more reliable / comfortable/ more luxurious/ faster car.

Thats my opinion mixed with some common sense.

pstevens,
if you got the money; that car can be made fast, of course that can be said about ANY car.

-Diavolo

p.s.
either way its only $200 bucks even if you never make anything out of it, youre not assed out of alot of cash
i'd buy it just because its cheap, but personally i couldnt afford to make anything out of it.



I dont think it would be as expensive as say... souping up a modern day car like a honda. Plus, you wouldnt have to worry about emissions and insurance is probably cheaper.

I have a boosted civic. its pretty quick too. but i set my civic aside because i found an old toyota which would be cheaper to hit 13's and corner like no tommorrow - and the project will cost less than aftermarket computers and tuning for my honda.

and the beauty of building a car is that it's only as fast as you want it to be. daily driver, street, race, whatever.

I dont think it's as expenive as you think it might be

[MistaFosta]

Originally posted by newbie
and whatever you do, please dont sell out by putting a domestic v8 in it. stick with whatever make its from, dont turn it into a crossdresser

Haters Everywhere. Do what you want. At least you'll have fun.

[Mr Rogers]

tubular chassies with a big block chevy and some big ass slicks. done.

[Longroof]

Originally posted by PC
< slaps volvo with dead fish on side of head >

I call next........ :haha:

[fusionsport]

I will go with PC on this one- my buddy had like 1grand in his B210 with a late model motor and a set of d'ell ortos- made a lot of power in a seriously light car- suspension was crap but b the time he had finished junkyarding around it had all 240-60-80 z front and truck rear- the thing you dont know dude is that all of these early economy cars shared parts with their big brothers due to the manufacturers inability to make small changes etween car types- an example of this is that in modern day is GM wants a different water pump exclusively for the Corvette it just changes a cnc program and bang its done- back in the day it had to make molds, do prototyping, then actually pay someone else to make the part, and small changes just werent popular with the bean counters- this is why a l28 nissan motor is really just an l20 motor with two more cylinders, which in turn is really just a l16 upsized-
all those old school cars share components with other cars, and in many cases even with near current models- alo when a manufacturer decides on a way to do something- strut attachment for one thing- it rarely changes it unless there is a problem- hence the reason the combination PC pointed out is possible- MOF those of us that really get arund know that MR2 1g stuts work perfectly on the front of a Triumph TR-7 etc etc-
far as modding the corona I say go for it- it will be a good learning experience if you approach it righ

[fusionsport]

no I dont have a problem forgeting that other people do not have my time, talent, or resources- but I know many many people who have very inexpensively made shitbox cars into quick shitbox cars on the cheap, because they couldnt or werent interested in buying a car with more guts- as a teenager i personally built a TR-7 triumph into a little misslie that would ass-rape a (new then) 5.0 stang- wihtout a shop, without all the tools I have now, just a lot of effort and willingness to learn- I bought that car for 150 bucks not running- put an electronic ignition on it and drove it home much to the owners dismay- that car taught me about weber carbs and how to jet them, and a lot of other things- like how to seek out people that had knowledge I needed- I suspect this guy(the 69 corona guy) is like most people just getting started and has more time than money, and if just pointed in the right direction he would be glad to scrounge cheap parts out at the local pick-and pull-esp if he knew what to look for- the guy just needs information, and telling him that all his parts will have to be custom and that there is no aftermarket parts for his ride is just irresponsible- and I am not trying to flame on you dude but you seem to do that alot- I know it is your opinion but still-

pstevens mod your corona if you want to - learn all you can, and seek out people who have knowledge you dont- that may be the best way to learn

[entix]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
i prefer to start with a vehicle that has a little more guts out of the box

just curious, have you ever taken your car to a track?

[max_misawa]

AHHAHAHA
good thread going here.
Pstevens if all else fails parts that bitch out you can proabbly make about 1000~2000 on parts alone.
I don't have a job
or money
or work for a shop
or have a lot of tools
i do have a brain and a desire to learn.
I figured out how to do an oil change on my own.
then i figured out how to do breaks.
then rear ends
then trannys
then motor swaps
then motor rebuilds.
etc etc etc.
Just take things one step at a time, if you can not figure things out go to your local store and talk to the salty doggs for tips.
Have fun.

Max

[Ninja]

hehe I met max once... he saved me from the smog nazi's by selling me an airbox i could afford... those other vultures out there where trying to rape my wallet. He had like 20 million AE86's parked in front of his house =oP

Pstevens... you have another car to drive while you work on the corona right? why not set yourself appart from everyone else... if you decide not to go for it let me know, shit i can spare $200 for another project car... shit like max said you could always part it out if all else fails. -Ninja

[S-Type1]

...besides, a "shit box" is the best place to learn.

[Longroof]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
....ok im wrong.


It is possible to make the car a mediocre pile of shit for cheap by entirely replacing most its drivetrain and suspension components with junk yard pieces from another similar car. Provided you have all the time in the world to find and replace those parts.

I have no problem admitting i dont have all the know how to do that, and i doubt pstevens does either, otherwise he wouldnt have started this thread asking.

You guys have a problem forgetting most of you work in shops or for professional race crews, and have better access to the tools, the parts, the time, and money it takes to make such a car like that, the rest of us dont have those resources.

For that reason i prefer to start with a vehicle that has a little more guts out of the box, and id suggest that to anyone else in a similar situation, but to each their own.

-Diavolo

Paul, one thing you failing to realize is that most of us got where we are today by taking peices of shit and making them better. I wasnt born in a shop and I havent always had all the tools I have today. Like S-Type said "...besides, a "shit box" is the best place to learn.". Besides once you can turn a mediocre piece of crap into something, modding the cars with potential is alot easier.

[entix]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
which one of my cars? and since my answer wont matter; go ahead and run your mouth, id like to know where youre going with this.

me run my mouth? thats ironic since youre posting that in a thread were you claim older chasis dont have any potential to handle, or go fast.

i was refering to your fc, since you claim you prefer cars that have balls out of the box. i was honestly asking since youve never put up a list of mods or any timeslips. i was curious, as stated when i asked.

[newbie]

Originally posted by mistafostaagain
Haters Everywhere. Do what you want. At least you'll have fun.

wtf? was i talkin about you? just becuase youre a sell out doesnt mean im talkin about you. that shits really gettin into your head. you gotta relax forel MR. I RUN 10'S ON THE STREET:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[pstevens]

Thanx guys for the info. did't think i would get so many replys. well i bought it!!! i think i just will clean it up to a classic car. but who know might wanna tweak it out abit. i'm going to take it to a shop where they do alot of swap like this and see what can be done cause if its a straight bolt on shit i can do it. as car as droping a v8 shit is that posible? cause i got a built 302 in my garge. was going to put that in my 87 stang but would rather put that in the corona. you guys got me daydreaming with things that are probaly not even posible unless you had $$$$$$

[BLAH BLA]

good luck and have some fun, i don't know what motor you have but some of the early motors can handle some decent power. so don't think that you have to do a swap to go fast. modern carburation and ignition would do wonders for you, and its driveability. i am sure you can find some on the internet that love those cars and have done all the swaps that you thinking about right now.......

[Sprinter Trueno]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
autocross?!? hmm i cant imagine that old chasis ever handling very well. If you really have the money to spend you can drop a couple grand on suspension and wheels and have a mediocre handling car, but if you have money like that i suggest buying a different car with some potential.

If youre thinking about swapping the motor, i have no idea what else would go in there, but i imagine its gonna take alot of fabrication to get it to fit and run,... :confused:

-Diavolo

p.s. do you have the optional 2 speed auto tranny?

*shaking my head*

You can be able to drop a 3T in there with a proper tuning and the right stuff the car can be able to hit 10-12's easy.

These kind of cars are use all the time at Auto X. I wouldn't think you'd know since you just sit back behind your comp and talk like you know anything about it.

[Sprinter Trueno]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
Notice i never post kill stories either? ...and its not cause i dont race; i dont brag about my cars, if i have something under my hood that dont meet emmisions standards i dont want anyone of authority to read. Also even tho this is typically more common in honda products; i dont like saying if i have something of value in my car or what its capable of for reasons of theft. I dont feel i have a need to prove something to anyone, thats why i have no problem biting my tounge in certain informing situations.

What is a "TOUNGE"?

I'll let you guys just think im some sticker tuning bopper thats only interested in import models, i could really care less. Anyone thats willing to actually meet me and go for a ride will tell you im capable of much more than just scoring ass.
Ask Datsun510dude, or Retroboy. and if youve ever met any of my crew or close friends you would see many of them are accomplished mechanics. Like ive said before; the only people that doubt me are the ones who havent met me.[quote]

I called you out a couple of times since all you do is talk. I got nothing againts you but quit talking and start walking.


[quote]Craig, youre completely right i was just trying to give 'pstevens' an idea of what hes up against, but how i made it sound was like saying its easier to give up before even trying. I guess thats a reflection of my life right now which is kinda hectic, and it clouded my posts.

Im still not saying that modding the corona will be easy work, but i think you guys are making it sound too easy and over promising results (8sec ETs) so i was trying to compensate for that by telling him it wouldnt. Either way it doesnt matter because its not either of our cars, its pstevens decision to make. I dont debate that it will be a good learning experience, either way hes buying a running car for $200. Cant go wrong with that.

We should all just shut up and wait to hear from him. Im sure he decided to buy it so at least itll be comforting for him to know that when and if he decides to mod it, you guys will be there to help him by providing info.
-Diavolo

The car itself is very very, I mean very easy to work on.

Theres lots of capability on the car. You can spend about 2G's on the motor and it can hit 13-14's.

Have I done it? yes, I used to own one of these till I sold it to a friend of mine. I was hitting low 13's with a simple mods. I spent about $5'gs and that car was smoking FC all day.

[MistaFosta]

Originally posted by newbie
wtf? was i talkin about you? just becuase youre a sell out doesnt mean im talkin about you. that shits really gettin into your head. you gotta relax forel MR. I RUN 10'S ON THE STREET:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You are a hater. I just didn't want his opinion to be swayed by someone with no automotive skills or knowledge, LIKE YOU.

Also, im a sellout? You like hondas. At least Im unique...

[S-Type1]

Originally posted by mistafostaagain You like hondas. At least Im unique...

i dont know why this is the funniest thing i've heard today.

i dont think its called "unique", its called being a "hater"

[newbie]

Originally posted by mistafostaagain
You are a hater. I just didn't want his opinion to be swayed by someone with no automotive skills or knowledge, LIKE YOU.

Also, im a sellout? You like hondas. At least Im unique...

unique? dude what youve done HAS BEEN DONE, no custom shit whatsoever. you basically bought a mount kit, read some instructions and dropped it in(and thats out of your own mouth). so what automotive skills are you talkin about? hacking shit up? LOL!! tryin to say that i dont have any automotive knowledge just cause i wont conform to what you say about your ride claimin that your car runs 10's on the street. HA and i thought you had automotive knowledge. you should know better than that:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[newbie]

Originally posted by mistafostaagain
You are a hater. I just didn't want his opinion to be swayed by someone with no automotive skills or knowledge, LIKE YOU.

Also, im a sellout? You like hondas. At least Im unique...

dude this thread aint about your whinin ass so quit hi-jackin this thread.

[H23Turbo]

My first car was a 75 Corona Wagon with the 20R engine. Did some suspension and bodywork. I wanted to build a 22R with a 20R head but I ended up selling it to buy a 69 firebird project and a Honda. 3TC, 20R, 22R or 22RE's are possible. I'd stick with a Toyota engine swap to keep it TRD loyal. Originality is dope!

Hey Max! Haven't seen you in a while. Stop by the shop sometime.


EDIT: combined with other corona thread and opened for a bit if anyone has a response to this.....Sniper.....

[max_misawa]

Who are you H23Turbo?
Yeah sorry been busy getting parts for that GZE,
I will try to drop by soon.
you gonna be there sunday?

Max

[ceeelle]

Pstevens -

don't waste your time and money trying to make that car something it's not and never will be. it's a 34-year-old econobox. it will never be any more than that. yes, you could put a different engine in it, a different suspension, a different this, a different that. but the money you'd waste on such an endeavor is money you could save for a more sporting car.

my advice... get the car, fix it up with an earl scheib paintjob, new mats etc. to make it look sharp and enjoy it as a daily driver while you figure out what you really want and can afford.

hell... i'm looking for a hoopty while i contemplate my next project. if that car's in NorCal and you don't want it, lemme know - I might be interested in it. PM me if so...

[ceeelle]

Originally posted by Moloko
I'd get it, it looks awsome. Put a chevy 6cyl in it, some minor suspension tuning, some nice wheels and body work and it'd rock.

and for the money you'd spend doing that you could buy a real performance car... just because something CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done. :p

[max_misawa]

Obvisouly you dont know too much about Toy's.
dud all you need is go to the junk yard ae get some 80~87 corolla front suspension & brakes about 100 bucks you can get GC coil overs for 180 shipped.
the you just need some shocks, tokico blues will be fine they are about 45~60 each for the front.
you should get new brakes for the front too that will be about 120 bucks.
Stainless lines is about another 125 for all 5 peiecs.
i can get you a corolla rear end for about 150 bucks and it has a stock 4.3 rear end witch is quite peppy.
the some rear shocks about another 100 bucks
and some TRD japan springs whicj is 120~140.

So you are looking at about 1000 bucks for a good suspension setup that BOLTS in.

Now if you want to do a motor swap i can build you a killer motor,
its a 20V hybrid its about 1000 for the motor but then you need wiring and a tranny so you are looking at 1500~2000 for everything.
you you want to try a shop that specializes in Toy's your in luck there is one in downtown san jose.

Dont let the guys get you down.

Max

[H23Turbo]

Max, it's Jei from Blacktrax. Good call on the cheap supension upgrades. I wish I new about it back in 1993 when I had my corona:haha:

[max_misawa]

Dude i got a 74 corolla today.
i will drop by the shop probably wednesday to let you check this rust bucket out.
AND and to everyone its 30 years old and a piece of CRAP so you can all smoke me hahahahah U WISH SUKKA's

Max