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JDM TyPeR HaTcH
04-09-2003, 07:35 PM
how do a lot of people abuse it? thats messed up. people just post and sell. they just try to give people good deals. i found a lot of things on the site, from people posting. i dont think people are willing to pay $9.99 a month and a lot of people are going to stop surfing this site.

but its ur site.

I also recommended a lot of people to post here too!!!!!!!!!

NotAMonte86
04-09-2003, 07:42 PM
That does sound pretty darn odd to me too, but at least you own a Civic... I'm sure there are a ton of message boards where you can buy/sell for free.

DannnyBoy
04-09-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by JDM TyPeR HaTcH
[B..i dont think people are willing to pay $9.99 a month and a lot of people are going to stop surfing this site.
[/B] Yeah, I see things for sale for like 20 bucks, who's gonna pay $10 to get $10?? Oh well, I dont really care..

Angel5
04-09-2003, 07:51 PM
Advertising costs money.
And it's not fair for someone like Ryan to have a site where you don't have to pay to sign up, and then have people join like crazy and whore the site like their personal eBay for free.
This site gets tons of hits and has tons of members, people shouldn't be allowed to use his bandwidth for their own personal gain without giving him a little in return.

Asad
04-09-2003, 07:54 PM
It's about time.

Thats really all this board is for. We have 60,000+ members, and only 2% have more than 200 posts.

project DC2
04-09-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Asad
It's about time.

Thats really all this board is for. We have 60,000+ members, and only 2% have more than 200 posts. ]


i think 10$ might be a bit absurd ... maybe 10$ every ... 6 months tht would be ccool. but its only certain people on here that sell like crazy.

slammedb18b1eg
04-09-2003, 08:00 PM
i dont take no side on this....but i do see both sides...it aint right for ryan to be loosing money for stuff that other people sell and make money off of... but at the same time the classifieds formed a community for [the cheap] people that are in this sport for the love of the game...kuz in the end thats what it all comes down to... everyone buying and selling parts to each other to hook up each others rides.....getting deals on parts etc.. i forgot the point i was trying to make...lol oh well forget it.....but anyways do what ya gotta do you guys own the site not us....traffic from the classifieds will just move on to another board

JDM TyPeR HaTcH
04-09-2003, 08:24 PM
The people who are posting to MAKE MONEY for things they get cheap, are the people you should be charging. There are people there who just wants to sell something they have lying around. It may be junk to them but gold to someone else. People are on there to hook people up. Make the people pay who are posting "I can get such and such for this price, post wat u need."

Well thats my opinion, but if you start charging I think a lot of people will stop posting on this site. Dont get mad at me, its jus an opinion.

JDM TyPeR HaTcH
04-09-2003, 08:28 PM
i took off the stuff i had for sale, so you guys dont tink im trying to make money. im jus tryin to get rid of allmy stuff. im even givng a free motor.

gsxtreme
04-09-2003, 08:41 PM
Take it to craigs list.

Ryan, as it was stated before most of the items sold on SRO are cheap, why not do a 5.00 a item or 10.00 a month option. I used to hate paying 15-20.00 to place an add in the classifieds for a 10k car.

pr0ject TRUENO
04-09-2003, 10:34 PM
BTW it's just people SELLING that have to pay. Normal members can post up and reply.

92 eg6
04-09-2003, 10:44 PM
are u sure? because i cant reply to anyone else's thread in the classifieds

pkrSE-R
04-09-2003, 10:56 PM
what ryan is doing is fair. its his website and we are using his space to sell our stuff and no one even thanks him. its not Safeway or something, sells other company's products for free. Safeway gets a portion of every sale. Why should SRO be different? SRO Performance doesnt let Greddy and Apex'i sell stuff on their webspace for free. now, this may seem hypocritical since i have stuff for sale on SRO, but any mod can go ahead and delete my threads. SRO will continue to get money from me since i plan to continue patronizing SRO performance.

marcdogg816
04-09-2003, 11:56 PM
i understand that it takes a lot of effort, money, and especially time to run a website like this. however, as other people have said, a fee will just drive people away to other boards. if you must charge people for using the board, something less than $10 a month would be more reasonable. someone suggested maybe $10 every 6 months...i guess that's cool. well good luck with the future of SRO. just my .02. peace

Angel5
04-10-2003, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by marcdogg816
however, as other people have said, a fee will just drive people away to other boards.
Um, good?
If you only come on this board to whore it's resources and to sell things, then by all means, you know where the door is.
The people that contribute to the board's content and knowledge base would probably have no problem helping Ryan out with a measly $10 if they felt like selling something here.

turbo2.3
04-10-2003, 07:14 AM
instead of a flat fee, why not a % of the cost of the item sold?

The Steve
04-10-2003, 07:29 AM
I would pay 10.00 to just be a member of the site. Its a really good site with a lot of content. I think that paying a measly 10.00 is ridiculous for people to complain about. I think you are just being a cheap tight wad if you wont pay to play.

Your car dont work without gas
You dont eat without money
I you never spend money on your girl she's gone

Stop complaining and help out.

I'm sure if it was you in Ryan's situation you wouldnt be spending all your dollars to keep it free.

Remeber this is not Ryan's hobby but his means of survival.

greengoblin
04-10-2003, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by turbo2.3
instead of a flat fee, why not a % of the cost of the item sold?

that would be hard to keep track of.
users could definitely get around that.

say Ryan wants 5% of every sale.
$20 intake = $1
$10k = $ $500

I don't think users want to lose that much.

joobojesse
04-10-2003, 09:23 AM
I remember when yahoo classifieds started charging for people to advertize. The night before, there were like 150 crx's for sale across the country. The next day, there were 25. I just checked just now, and there are only 11 for sale. On top of that, the price of the cars jumped drastically ($4000 for a stock crx?? wtf?!). I'm sure the same goes for any model car or product.

And that was on yahoo, where there was a much larger and dedicated audience. SRO is so small that if the product pool shrinks, the 4-sale section will become worthless... Thank god for craigslist.

JDM TyPeR HaTcH
04-10-2003, 10:21 AM
Individuals who are posting to make money should be considered a company. and others who post to get rid of their stuff should not be charged. one flat rate is better like $25 forever, for the people who just wants to get rid of their stuff. $25 per month should get charge to individuals who has intentions of profiting.

tbkonwso
04-10-2003, 11:01 AM
i kinda agree with the policy, and im guilty of selling some carbon hood as a company. (for some carbon hood which i had laying aroudn in the wharehouse) so i made a post, in which i thought is great price hoping some sro member can take advantage of it. (BTW i dont make commision honestly) just trying to hook some people up, but not knowing it hurts other peoples bussinese the same time. so my faulty and ryan you got my word that i wont sell company product again. just personal stuffs.

This is kind of like what happened to thepartstrader.com which use to be a good site, but it was spamed by companys now instead individual sellers.

I beleive ryan should have a warning system and ban the people who sell as company, after 2nd warning bamm. shouldnt be too hard to tell whos company and whos not. just my 2cent

oh btw can i have my right to post in the forsales forums again.

RK.
04-10-2003, 03:04 PM
I'd just rather use thepartstrader.com or h-t. I find it easier to sell on those sites...especially performance parts.

KickinASS
04-10-2003, 04:39 PM
Plenty of message boards out there that do not charge. There is also a lot of source code out there that's open to the general pulbic for use. Meaning you can take it and start your own board if you want to.

A flat out fee isn't going to make any money. In todays online marketplace subscribers fees are the only way to go. Keeping internet equipment up and running and paying someone to administer it isn't cheap. A flat fee would pay for it but later on that source would be gone as opposed to subscribers paying fees.

Be happy SRO is still itself completely free. Look out at the internet today and you can see how many sites have been shut down or have turned to a fee to continue running. Since the dot-com boom internet advertising has dropped dramatically. I for one would be willing to pay to subscribe to the site since I find it fun and useful. But then it all drops down to how much you care about something...


It's about time.

Thats really all this board is for. We have 60,000+ members, and only 2% have more than 200 posts.

That's harsh, you know how hard is to get to 200 posts without whoring yourself? Or are the people who have been around forever the only cools ones... Can''t be a totally exlcusive cool club forever! :p Oh, not to mention if I had 200 posts already someone would have definately banned me. :D

Sniper
04-10-2003, 05:15 PM
you registered a month after blindarrow and i......you can be a winner too, if only you apply yourself!.....

btw, where in PA?...

Asad
04-10-2003, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by KickinASS
That's harsh, you know how hard is to get to 200 posts without whoring yourself? Or are the people who have been around forever the only cools ones... Can''t be a totally exlcusive cool club forever! :p Oh, not to mention if I had 200 posts already someone would have definately banned me. :D

Well, look at this way. Most of the people on these boards have very few posts, but they advertise themselves, be it an ugly import model in the photo album, or selling a bunch of parts in the F/S section. I'm surprised that a site this size isn't asking for membership signup fees.

tbkonwso
04-10-2003, 07:09 PM
i guess it all really depends on what part of sro we use.. personly my fav parts are

for sales =]
anything goes
west north cal

sro is feels close to home.. in the bay area and most of the people are around the bay.. kinda like a local community.

i reg back in year 2000 lol.. watch the site grew and how it formed to now and I would pay a reasonable fee to use the site also. cause i beleive its wroth it, i read more than i wrote and most of my post goes to anything goes which doesnt count hehe.

Newt5
04-11-2003, 12:36 AM
Ok, im fine with it if ryan did it, if paris did it, then screw it, i just dont understand why we cant delete posts? i posted in muscle car and couldnt delete it...

KickinASS
04-11-2003, 12:36 PM
you registered a month after blindarrow and i......you can be a winner too, if only you apply yourself!.....

Heh, I registered then left because I sorta got blown away. I remember one of the first posts I read of two guys arguing about torque and whether or not it was needed. Outa nowhere someone blew the other out of the water with an explanation of how a torquless vehicle if therotically possible wouldn't drive a vehicle. Well, that blew me away an I still don't fully understand it today so I sort of disappeared from here without ever making myself known. I'm here now though. :D

btw, where in PA?...

The shitty part. I live the town over from where Swarthmore College is, Wallingford... :p I'm out to my birthplace of Massachusetts soon though.

Nick
04-11-2003, 03:16 PM
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ryans
04-11-2003, 03:30 PM
well, the sections are open to post freely. I'm just asking, if your a company, or if you buy wholesale from companies and sell online, just help out. no big deal. I see guys buying whole sets of brand new Rota rims for $350. that is wholesale.

JDM TyPeR HaTcH
04-11-2003, 08:19 PM
THANKS RYAN, sorry for all the trouble, its jus this is my best site to get rid of all of my old stuff, and $10 a month blew me off. im not trying to make a fortune off of this site, jus cleanning the garage. but thanks

Mr im lost
04-12-2003, 10:08 AM
Here's a simple solution.....
If you are going to sell something on this site... you should get charged a % fee. That way you can make the money you want to make and pay SRO whats due. You guys have a point about the $10 a month, but instead of complaining about it why don't you all have a chat with ryan and see if you can work something out. REMEMBER sro is NOT free for ryan, he has bills to pay for this sight, and the least we can do is help. I paid before when ryan asked for help for the sight and so did many others, and i didn't hear one person complain.

Plus if you don't want to pay anything and don't give a F**K
easy just LEAVE...:hi:

ElMasChingon
04-12-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Angel5
Advertising costs money.
And it's not fair for someone like Ryan to have a site where you don't have to pay to sign up, and then have people join like crazy and whore the site like their personal eBay for free.
This site gets tons of hits and has tons of members, people shouldn't be allowed to use his bandwidth for their own personal gain without giving him a little in return.
im working on it, I finally got around to actually staying on this site

SentraSERj
04-12-2003, 11:57 AM
so what if SRO started charging, just go to other websites that are free.

Gabe
04-12-2003, 02:46 PM
How bout members with more than 1000 posts and more than a year registered get free for sale posting? Oh well nobody look for domestic parts on SRO anyways.


By the way, I have honda cold air intakes for sale $10 cheaper than SRO price! JK hehe

ErikDaGenErik
04-14-2003, 03:48 PM
It's his site. Let him do what he wants to do. All others can go to thepartstrader.com

I gotta give to SRO. I would have never sold my car without it

swamp foXXX
04-15-2003, 06:53 AM
Dude its better he charge for sellin stuff then charge to join...so quit bitchen...I know boards where you have to be an invited member to join...he could kick all of us and only invite friends or something...then you'd have to go back to one of your little specific 'civic' boards and sell for free:D Ryan has done a kick ass job with SRO ((:bow: to ryan)) and Im sure hes spent a large amount of cash on SRO and people complain about paying him 10 bucks...the people who don't wanna pay should just leave...