Stupid question

[weemanskater87]

Ok guys, I have a stupid question, but it'd be great if someone could answer. It is kinda vague, but "What SS version of a car only came with a 427 ci. ?" Thanks for any help. :confused:

[XiaoMing]

Impala?

[Ritz S14]

Chevelles, Impalas, and El Caminos.. There may be more though.

[Moloko]

Chevelle SS's never came with a 427, neither did Camaros, neither did ElCaminos. Vettes never had SS's. The proper answer is ; Impalas. It also came in Caprices, and Biscaynes among other huge ass vehicles, but they never had an SS form. Had to be from Chevy as SS is their designation.

[weemanskater87]

Oh man, you guys fucking rock...I was thinking a camaro or a chevelle, but I didn't know what engines they came with. Anyway, thanks a lot.

[Angel5]

Chevy had a 302, 283, 327 and 402 as well.

[Moloko]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
are you sure about the Camaro SS not having a 427???
http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/Supercars/68Harrell/

are you sure about the Chevelle SS not having a 427???
http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/Supercars/69YenkoChevelle/

Actually, if you look, neither of those cars are actually made by GM, and the Chevelle isnt even an SS. To be completely truthful the Impala is the only factory Chevy SS to leave the factory with a 427. And don't bring up that Chevy sent factory installed 427's in Camaros and Chevelles to Yenko, because those wernt SS's.

[Moloko]

Originally posted by DiaVolo
older ones?
305 (?)
307
350
396
409 (?)
427
454

...what did i miss?

Camaro; 230, 235, 250, 267, 302, 305, 307, 327, 350, 396, 402, 427

Chevelle; 230, 250, 283, 327, 350, 396, 400, 402, 427, 454

Think thats pretty much right.

409 is the W motor which vanished in.... 64? and was replaced with the standard BBC.

[Mr Rogers]

im pretty sure the early vette's came with 427's. the stingray models.

[Moloko]

They did, but once again he asked what SS came factory with a 427.

[BLAH BLA]

if you could choose an ss option on a chevy vehicle, and you could choose the motor. hypothetically you could have ordered a camaro w/ss option and 427 motor, is this correct? could you not order the two options together or does gm not have any record of building on? just curious, i owned a '66 malibu ss w/327 and a powerglide. cannot verify if these were original it was my first car and i was not too concerned about that at the time.

[Moloko]

Originally posted by BLAH BLA
if you could choose an ss option on a chevy vehicle, and you could choose the motor. hypothetically you could have ordered a camaro w/ss option and 427 motor, is this correct?

No, that would be like walking into a GM dealership today and asking for a LS1 in an Impala. Its not offered in that car.

could you not order the two options together or does gm not have any record of building on?

They only built them for Yenko and other "tuners"

just curious, i owned a '66 malibu ss w/327 and a powerglide. cannot verify if these were original it was my first car and i was not too concerned about that at the time.

It wasnt a real SS. All SS's from 1966 had a 396, either the 325, 360hp, or 375hp version (as quoted from GM). I also dont think in that year you could get a powerglide in an SS car, you had a choice of a 3 speed auto of 4 speed manual. The Malibu and SS trim packages were two different orders, so if your car had Malibu trim, its not an SS.

[Moloko]

The main reason for not building a 427 Camaro, or Chevelle is because until 1970 Chevrolet did not allow engines over 400ci in intermediate or smaller cars. The Impala was a fullsize, and the Corvette had no rules, so thats why they were allowed. In 1970 they lifted the limit, and thats why you see a 454 in Chevelles in 1970. Its also the reason why the 402 was referred to as the 396 when it came out.

[BLAH BLA]

i guess i did not have a '66 ss malibu w/327 and a 'glide. i would be upset except that i paid $100.00 bucks for it. it had bucket seats not a bench seat, was that available or were they not original also.

[Moloko]

Buckets were an option. Im sure everything was probably original on that car except the SS badges.

[nova4]

actually could get a camaro SS with a 427. first u had to order the zl1 engine and the SS performance group of course not many people did this because the engine alone was more expensive than the car it was put in at the time and for that price u could have easliy bought a corvette 427 at the time and probably still have some cash left over..um and as for them actually producing a 69 ss 427 i think only one was made but there were 69 zl1's most went to racers who didnt care if they had the ss trim and suspension etc etc. also dealers like harrel, yenko, dana, and the others usually got specially order 369 camaros and chevelles but also ordered 427 longblocks to put in them to sell as there super cars so if you have ever seen one the engine should not be matching the vin number

[Moloko]

Originally posted by nova4
actually could get a camaro SS with a 427. first u had to order the zl1 engine and the SS performance group of course not many people did this because the engine alone was more expensive than the car it was put in at the time and for that price u could have easliy bought a corvette 427 at the time and probably still have some cash left over..um and as for them actually producing a 69 ss 427 i think only one was made but there were 69 zl1's most went to racers who didnt care if they had the ss trim and suspension etc etc.

The ZL1 cars had the SS suspension. They were ordered as COPO cars, or central office production order. You've seen other COPO cars; Police cars. The cars were ordered in a loophole which the heads of GM found after 1970, and were actually ordered as something along the lines of police cars and taxi cabs. 6

also dealers like harrel, yenko, dana, and the others usually got specially order 369 camaros and chevelles but also ordered 427 longblocks to put in them to sell as there super cars so if you have ever seen one the engine should not be matching the vin number

That was only in 67. Starting in 68 they got a deal with GM to accept chevelles and camaros already equipped with an iron block 427. Not sure if the VINS still match though.