Turbo Available for the 3G Eclipse!!! (pic)

[3gEclipse]

Whoo hoo!!! Now if only I can find $3500...
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1523010&a=11518503&p=40724964

[97GS-wide-T]

and save up another 4500 to rplace your tranny...hehehehe
there is no 3g eclipse
only a 1 and 2 g and then a mitsubishi grand am :)

[Nick]

Originally posted by 97GS-wide-T

there is no 3g eclipse only a 1 and 2 g and then a mitsubishi grand am :) [/B]

hahahahahahaha. It does lool kinda like a Grand Am. I never thought of that.

[StockSpyder]

Originally posted by 97GS-wide-T
and save up another 4500 to rplace your tranny

yeah the sportronic tranny in those cars are prone to failure with higher hp numbers :(

[3gEclipse]

Ok, no disrespect but I think you guys need to give your ego's a rest with your 2nd gen pride... I just wanted to share some info, in a totally non-threatning way, out there to whoever might be curious/interested.

The turbo kit operates at only about 8 PSI... and so far the prototype car's transmission (sportronic btw) is showing no signs of damage. 5-speed tranny shouldn't have problems with the increase in HP either since there are already people who've put 100-shot nitrous into their 3Gs and continue to do so with over 40k miles on the engine, tranny, etc.

And as far as the grand-am comment, I'll just ignore that one :rolleyes:

[StockSpyder]

I heard the HKS / Mitsubishi supercharger project was rejected because HKS couldnt make the sportronic tranny last long enough for it to be worth Mitsu's time and bother.. I could be wrong.. lemme know if not.. I have a few 3g/galant friends ( same motor ) and they would be interested to know whats the deal on the sportronic.

[StockSpyder]

Originally posted by 3gEclipse
Ok, no disrespect but I think you guys need to give your ego's a rest with your 2nd gen pride

no disrespect taken

2nd gen pride? no.. at least not for me.. I could care less about Mitsubishi.. I just like the 4g63 and its infinite modability.. I drive around on 18lbs with no issues and put out the power figure you see below on pump gas.. not bad for a 4 banger..

[3gEclipse]

Originally posted by StockSpyder
no disrespect taken

2nd gen pride? no.. at least not for me.. I could care less about Mitsubishi.. I just like the 4g63 and its infinite modability.. I drive around on 18lbs with no issues and put out the power figure you see below on pump gas.. not bad for a 4 banger..

I'll be the first to admit that the 3G platform does not have as much potential as the previous generations in terms of how much extra hp you can squeeze out of it. There's less room with a V6 in there to work with, and the tranny just seems to break too easily on the 4 cyl.

You were correct in that the HKS project was scraped becuase of tranny issues with the sportronic tranny, however they were working with too much boost and the car just couldn't take it. Why Mitsu becided to make the 3G weaker is a total mistery to me. 8 PSI is weak by most standards... but it's still enough to add around 100 hp to the V6. To me, that's plenty; but for the hardcore racers, upgrading the tranny would definitely be a requirement... :(

I just didn't take 97GS-wide-T's comment very well because it seemed like a total put-down when I was just trying to share some info. If I mis-interpreted that comment than sorry... I'll try not to be so defensive from now on.

As for the turbo in the above picture, it's made by Doug's Dynopower out in Vegas. I spoke with Doug in person at SEMA a few weeks ago and his mission was very clear. Reliability was his main concern. He definitely does not want to put out a kit that will destroy our cars. His kit encludes a mitsu turbo, a side-mount intercooler, and a blow-off valve. The entire kit is a bolt-on with the exception of tapping the oil pan. It will definitely fit the sportronic because that's what he installed the kit on, and for the manual tranny, installation will be easier. I definitely give props to his efforts and I wish most people do the same, rather than just reject his efforts with negativity and cynisism. His contact info is:

Doug's Dynopower
P.O. Box 231228
Las Vegas, NV 89123
702-616-6081 Tel
702-616-3132 Fax
http://www.ddynopower.com
ddynopower@aol.com

:)

[The Weapon]

Okay, let me set the record straight about the HKS "rumor." If HKS was working on a Turbo for the Galant, IT WAS NOT THE SPORTRONIC. The Galant does NOT come with the Sportronic. The Galant V6 uses the automatic transmission that's available on the RS model Eclipse (4 cyl.)

So, with that information, HKS was attempting to build a turbo for the "weakest" transmission Mitsubishi currently makes. I can understand the marketability... if you can build a turbo that works on the Galant transmission, it MUST work on the Sportronic. Hence, more potential customers.

BTW, 97GS-wide-T, what's it like to be.... ah, nevermind...

[97GS-wide-T]

DDP is a very reputable shop and if they say it works then it most likely does, but the hks thing is also correct the sporttronic won't take 8psi for long, anyway i don't like the 3g mainly because it was such a let down from the SST concept but like any car it will have a following as you are one of them i can i understand why you didn't like that comment but for guys like me and stockspyder the 3g doesn't exist because it hasn't got a 4g63, good luck with you car man

[BillybobJoeThorton]

you guys are being mean..!! Hope you get CRANKWALK!
and the 3g eclipses look pretty good IMO

[Xan]

I'm with Stock and Wide on this one and I drive a 1g.
It's all about the engine and the lack of turbo and awd in the 1st place. It's a bit more costly to toss a whole new turbo system in, then to just putting a bigger turbo in, not just the turbo, but other things to replace aswell.

Xan
'92 Eclipse GSX

[Joshhasa99dsm]

Well you guys seem to know what you're all talking about. I'm just starting to get into this whole modifying my car and shit. But I'm really looking into a turbo for my car. I have a 99 Eclipse GS. My friend plans on buying a car, but it also comes with another car. So all in all, he's getting two cars. Both cars have turbo and I believe they're Talons. And was wondering, if I even have enough room to stick a bolt on Turbo on my car. It looks like a really tight fit inside there! So if I take it off of a Talon, you think it'll fit on my car or not?

[StockSpyder]

Hit up Star Performance or HRC for a turbo kit on your NA..

[97GS-wide-T]

your best bet if it's a newer talon parts car is to swap motor and ecu but if its a 90-94 it will be more work than is worth it. in addition to star contact hahn racecraft of dougs dyno

[XplicitGST]

I thought the 3g was a mercury cougar, not a grand am. PLsu no more turbo and no moe 4g63 power. They basically made a smaller version of the non turbo 3000gt. Waste of time and money.

[BillybobJoeThorton]

Originally posted by Joshhasa99dsm
Well you guys seem to know what you're all talking about. I'm just starting to get into this whole modifying my car and shit. But I'm really looking into a turbo for my car. I have a 99 Eclipse GS. My friend plans on buying a car, but it also comes with another car. So all in all, he's getting two cars. Both cars have turbo and I believe they're Talons. And was wondering, if I even have enough room to stick a bolt on Turbo on my car. It looks like a really tight fit inside there! So if I take it off of a Talon, you think it'll fit on my car or not?


Hey Dude! Check Out http://www.turbogs.com ....damm you might be too late...They were having a groub buy of star stage 2 turbo kits for 2500. Not bad.. T3 t4 turbonectics turbo plus FMIC ..etc....lates

btw-email the owner of the site, im sure he can hook you up

[BillybobJoeThorton]

Originally posted by 97GS-wide-T
your best bet if it's a newer talon parts car is to swap motor and ecu but if its a 90-94 it will be more work than is worth it. in addition to star contact hahn racecraft of dougs dyno


what the hell are you talking about? you mean if its a newer talon 95-99 he can swap the 4g63 motor in place of the 420a ? if thats what you meant then NEWS FLASH! The engine on the 420a is face differently then the 4g63. Its is oppsite of it. or maybe im reading this wrong i dunno..anyways i dont think swapping the motor is even worth it, neither is trading it in

[97GS-wide-T]

Originally posted by BillybobJoeThorton
Originally posted by 97GS-wide-T
your best bet if it's a newer talon parts car is to swap motor and ecu but if its a 90-94 it will be more work than is worth it. in addition to star contact hahn racecraft of dougs dyno


what the hell are you talking about? you mean if its a newer talon 95-99 he can swap the 4g63 motor in place of the 420a ? if thats what you meant then NEWS FLASH! The engine on the 420a is face differently then the 4g63. Its is oppsite of it. or maybe im reading this wrong i dunno..anyways i dont think swapping the motor is even worth it, neither is trading it in

ummm, dude if you have a 99 gs, and a 99 gst you can yank the motor and trans from the non turbo and replace it with the motor and trans from a turbo car that is the same platform (95-99)(90-94 had differant motor mounts and can be done but it's a pain) this has been done and can be done, it's not cheap but if the guy has a donor turbo car and all he needs is the sweat equity to do it then go for it. yes the 420a is mounted oppisite the 4g63 in terms of layout in the engine bay but it is the same engine bay and as such a 4g63 will mount in it, swap the wiring harness and your set. THATS WHAT THE HELL I'M TALKIN ABOUT:p

[StockSpyder]

I agree.. its not hard.. at the most you might have to alter the motor mounts.. and I would jump at a chance to replace a 420A with a 4g63.. its proven safe and reliable.. and would only cost you probably 2 grand or so more than just putting a turbo kit on the car. used motors can be had for high 2 or low 3 grand, and the rest in labor and ecu swap, get a used 14b free or bought from someone.. and go from there.. but thats my opinion of course :)

[BillybobJoeThorton]

yeah i type that thing up while up at 4am the other nite..i didnt read the part about the donor car. And i would never jump to get a 4g63 becuase one one thing...and you know what it is . ;P

[StockSpyder]

get yourself a 1g motor if you're really that paranoid.. I dont think crankwalk is as big of a issue as everyone makes it out to be.. any car can get it, just look at the miata :)

btw.. wuts going on with your sig?

[BillybobJoeThorton]

nahh im going to have to stick with what i got....everyones gonna have to upgrade internals anyway if they are planning to boost'n more then 20-30 psi daily on a t3 t4 hybrid

[StockSpyder]

Originally posted by BillybobJoeThorton
everyones gonna have to upgrade internals anyway if they are planning to boost'n more then 20-30 psi daily on a t3 t4 hybrid


I dunno where you live.. but boosting 20-30 lbs daily on the street? is that pump gas?

[BillybobJoeThorton]

HRC does 26 psi I believe on race gas ...so i figure around 20(give or take a few psi, which is alot lol) is cool for street use. Hmm well see what what happens though coz im not sure myself either on what I cna actualyl do on the streets.

http://www.turbogs.com (star kit guy)

http://murix.home.icq.com/index.html(HRC guy)
gst-wide from what I heard knows chris ;P

anyways both these guys seem to be planning alot of boost and maybe Nos ;P

[DK]

Nah, it doesn't look like a Grand Am or a Cougar ... it looks like a cheese grater! Or a washboard! Or a POS! Have fun blowing that weak motor.

[97GS-wide-T]

stay tuned wright touch is gonna blow everyones mind i think they built the only 3g worth lookin at, of course the onlything left of the car that actually came with it is the shell:)

[3gEclipse]

Where did you hear that? Do you know where that info is available? I've very curious! Thanks!

[97GS-wide-T]

i don't wanna say to much because i think they are tryin to keep it a secret but lets just say, tube frame, v6tt, and awd. they estimate it'll make 1000 plus hp and run mid to high 7s

[StockSpyder]

theres a local shop in CA making a tube frame, 3g body, 4g63 powered, RWD which will kick ass too :)

[97GS-wide-T]

yep this is the year of the tube frames i can see it already i know of 3 tube frame rwd 2gs going together for sure and a few rumors, looks like just when the sponsors start kickin out alotta cash for the races that all these 7 sec cars are comin outta the woodworks, meanin us regular racers ain't gettin none of the prize money:) looks like nira is gonna go the same way as nhra big money race cars

[3gEclipse]

Man I can't wait to see these 3G rockets!!! If anything it should definitely make things more interesting for us 3G'ers this year!!! :D

[RS/377]

I think what they just said is they are building a go cart with a ribbed for her pleasure body.