350z, sucks or not [Archive] - Street Racing Forums

punksev

10-18-2002, 05:47 PM

this is just to hear what people have to say. i personally think the new nissan 350z sucks seriously. nissan did better with there ser vspec.:flip:

EskimoBob

10-18-2002, 06:02 PM

are you kidding...besides being visually stunning it is a revival of the fairlady.

not to metion the six speed 260hp RWD performace...and they are a great platform to work off of...we should be seeing some nice work off that thing.

what makes you say that???

cheezmonta

10-18-2002, 06:11 PM

The 350Z. Suck? Hell no. it's 280hp and runs a 14 flat.

91LudeSi

10-18-2002, 06:33 PM

do they suck...

no

addicted2speed

10-18-2002, 06:44 PM

260hp NA, in no way does it suck. It's more like the old Fairladies (visually) than it is like the last gen 300zx's, which I may add were about 300hp TT. Also the VQ35DE (I think that's the code) should have a decent aftermarket since it's also in the G35 Coupe, Altima 3.5 SE, and the Maxima.

punksev

10-18-2002, 07:02 PM

what the fuck, more like an old fairlady my !@#. the old fairlady's are my dream cars. there is no way in hell they look like them. first of all it looks like a brick of soap, second of all like i said nissan had it right with ser vspec. that's a bad ass car. ignorance is all i can say for those who think the 350z is a revival of the fairlady.

aSiaNdoboI

10-18-2002, 07:42 PM

it your opinion
But that doesnt mean it is a good one:p

chrispy D2R

10-18-2002, 07:47 PM

A weak opinion I should add. The 350 sucks merely because you don't find it very attractive? :rolleyes:

aSiaNdoboI

10-18-2002, 07:52 PM

ok u dont like the looks
wow!!
it one of the fastest z ever made
one best handleing
and i might add from a N/A engine!

so your opinion is very "weak" as chrispy said

Dr. Disque

10-18-2002, 09:14 PM

the new 350Z is a revival of the TRUE Z car of the 70's and early 80's. Those cars were lightweight, RWD, didn't rely on turbos to keep up, and were affordable. The 350Z brings back all these qualities. The Z32 300ZX was the exception to the rule, not the rule.

Soarer

10-18-2002, 09:20 PM

i think its a great car inside and out. never driven one or seen one actually move the way it can but still a great car on paper.

Red93R1

10-18-2002, 10:18 PM

I don't like them. The 350Z looks too much like the new Tiburon and any non-Hyundai car that looks like a Hyundai cannot be cool. At least they stole the tail lights from a better car, the Cougar :D

aSiaNdoboI

10-19-2002, 07:09 AM

but u have to admit the peformance numbers are pretty nice

Jspec

10-19-2002, 11:34 AM

on pictures they look like crap.

you see one screwming down the road from cross traffic...oh yea...they are very nice.

and they do come in different color than that stupid orange they keep advertising

FanaticalKilla

10-19-2002, 11:42 AM

Personally I like em not as much as 300zx. But the performance is there and the interior is super nice.

GreenDragon_Gst

10-19-2002, 03:55 PM

350z suck?! fuk no... it looks sick as hell and can smoke a z28(seen it in person), can smoke an s2000(seen it in person, might I add that the s had exhaust, intake, headers, and no cat) which isn't really saying much n e way. No other japanese manufacture can engines that have more torque than horsepower!!! NISMO rules(even though I got a mitsu... :D ) check out Option magazine for a 350z with twin-turbos... da-da-da-DAMN!!!

Soarer

10-19-2002, 05:03 PM

you guys see the Z33GT? the car they might use if they enter the GT division in Le Mans? pretty nice. 3.6L 450hp, and it lost weight down to 2,46x lbs.

i didnt read the whole article but, i THINK, they said that you can purchase the race ready Z for 75k.

punksev

10-19-2002, 05:55 PM

okay. we are all entitled to our opinions. but have i told you people that your opinions suck. no i just told you my own opinion. first of all i never said i think the car is ugly, what i said was that it in no way looks like the old z's. i am an old z car freak, so if i don't really care for the 350z then i am either fucked up or maybe there really is no resemblance. second of all the car does not look like a crapy tiburon or hyundai of any sort. saying that it does is just a disgrace to the hard working men and woman at nissan. if you don't like my opinions and you feel you need to get slanderous why don't you go reply to someone elses forums.

aSiaNdoboI

10-19-2002, 08:18 PM

but you said the car "sucks"
so in turn you are saying either looks or performace is bad
which either arent.

Red93R1

10-19-2002, 09:21 PM

What kind of person specifically says a car sucks, then asks for our opinions on something, and after we give our opinions that person bitches about the people who agree with him?
Damn noob :mad:

datsun510dude

10-19-2002, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by GreenDragon_Gst
350z suck?! fuk no... it looks sick as hell and can smoke a z28(seen it in person), can smoke an s2000(seen it in person, might I add that the s had exhaust, intake, headers, and no cat) which isn't really saying much n e way. No other japanese manufacture can engines that have more torque than horsepower!!! NISMO rules(even though I got a mitsu... :D ) check out Option magazine for a 350z with twin-turbos... da-da-da-DAMN!!!

WHen u saw thoes in person were u in Tracy? I saw a silver Z smoke a red s2k

datsun510dude

10-19-2002, 11:24 PM

The Z doesnt suck...it blows...the competition away :) and it actuallys runs a 14.2 1/4mile (watch out boxster S!!! (14.1sec1/4))

TheHayvn

10-20-2002, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by GreenDragon_Gst
it looks sick as hell and can smoke a z28

lol
No.

E-Spec S13

10-20-2002, 07:15 AM

i like the revival look and the fact that nissan has brought back a sportscar that was never meant to leave. styling is a thumbs up.

im dissappointed though with the power output. i mean considering that its japanese technology, from a 3.5 liter, and it only has 265hp. hondas 2 liter s2k makes 240hp and so does its nsx's 3.2L which makes 290hp. plus i like the fact that nissan was good with turbo's, so N/A performance on a nissan does not impress me. in my opinion an RB wouldve been the choice motor for this car, or at least something twin turbo... nissan is most known for its beautiful turbo supercars, why not keep it that way.

pricing... one of the best bangs for the buck!

Scott

10-20-2002, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by E-Spec S13
i like the revival look and the fact that nissan has brought back a sportscar that was never meant to leave. styling is a thumbs up.

im dissappointed though with the power output. i mean considering that its japanese technology, from a 3.5 liter, and it only has 265hp. hondas 2 liter s2k makes 240hp and so does its nsx's 3.2L which makes 290hp. plus i like the fact that nissan was good with turbo's, so N/A performance on a nissan does not impress me. in my opinion an RB wouldve been the choice motor for this car, or at least something twin turbo... nissan is most known for its beautiful turbo supercars, why not keep it that way.

pricing... one of the best bangs for the buck!

so you want a z powered by a tt RB engine, with outrageous power, but still want it to be cheap? good luck.

besides, what does an RB26DE make power-wise?

GreenDragon_Gst

10-20-2002, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by TheHayvn
lol
No.

lol
YES
whoever was drivin' the z28 must not have known how to drive his car (cause he missed the clutch every shift and launched way too high)... but winning is winning. as far as the s2000, yup, at tracy... I saw when u were gonna run'em with that motorcycle, but bounce out... what happened?, there was like a fatty a$$ crowd... yeah, nissan n/a engines aren't up to par with honda's, but u gotta figure honda only focuses on n/a engines... so they gotta be good, but still they don't have torque for shit... n e way, the 350z has hella potential... it's design is a little "different", but it captures the essence of the whole z line, aerodynamic, rigid, insane, just looks like it could whoop that ass with a single rev... still it's styling isn't as off the wall as the new accord, WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING!!!

TheHayvn

10-20-2002, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by GreenDragon_Gst
lol
YES
whoever was drivin' the z28 must not have known how to drive his car (cause he missed the clutch every shift and launched way too high)

Who cares.
One race.
Any LS1 driven by someone without the IQ of a banana could rape the shit out of the 350Z.

GreenDragon_Gst

10-20-2002, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by TheHayvn
Who cares.
One race.
Any LS1 driven by someone without the IQ of a banana could rape the shit out of the 350Z.

u must rock a chevy, cause ur backing it WAY too much... all I'm sayin' is it happened, it prolly won't ever happen again(unless it's the same driver)but, like I said, a win is a win. I'm not gonna lie, maro's are the shit(I'de never get one), but (message) don't try to drive what u can't handle...

Red93R1

10-20-2002, 12:27 PM

A 350Z is faster than a Z28 because somebody can't drive and "Winning is winning"?

Why do I suddenly get the urge to put a Veilside body kit, a bunch of stickers, a wing and 2 stage nitrous on my rx7?

GreenDragon_Gst

10-20-2002, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Red93R1
A 350Z is faster than a Z28 because somebody can't drive and "Winning is winning"?

Why do I suddenly get the urge to put a Veilside body kit, a bunch of stickers, a wing and 2 stage nitrous on my rx7?

funny... ha...ha ... I didn't meen it like that... I'm jus sayin' that if ur gonna talk some shit(in this case, rev ur engine)... u better be able to back it up.

XbusinessX

10-20-2002, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by GreenDragon_Gst
funny... ha...ha ... I didn't meen it like that... I'm jus sayin' that if ur gonna talk some shit(in this case, rev ur engine)... u better be able to back it up.

i dont know about anyone else but it sure seems like greendragon does a lot of back peddling. almost all of your replies have been you restating, retracting, or rearranging all of your previous comments. why is that?

TheHayvn

10-20-2002, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by GreenDragon_Gst
u must rock a chevy, cause ur backing it WAY too much

Just a Chevy engine.

And I know the potential of the LS1. And it's a lot more than the 6cyl in the 350Z. Stock for stock, modified for modified.

GreenDragon_Gst

10-20-2002, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by XbusinessX
i dont know about anyone else but it sure seems like greendragon does a lot of back peddling. almost all of your replies have been you restating, retracting, or rearranging all of your previous comments. why is that?

it's just people misinterpret what I say, so I have to restate it. damn... why so harsh...!?

E-Spec S13

10-21-2002, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by Scott
so you want a z powered by a tt RB engine, with outrageous power, but still want it to be cheap? good luck.

besides, what does an RB26DE make power-wise?

as long as its turbo, thats what im saying. the rb26 is a proven motor, very tunable with excellent results.

they could still make it cheap if they wanted to... compensate for a few things here and there and im pretty sure it would be no problem. and besides how much do you think the new 350z's motor is compared to the rb26dett out of the factory?... it wouldnt be more than a couple thousand thats for sure.

thats just me. i wouldnt need anything more than a shell and a tuners engine.....

max_misawa

10-21-2002, 09:29 AM

99.5% of americans don't like turbo cars that is just a fact.
American like N A bottom line.
the 350Z has a 53/47 weight ratio= perfect balance.
an has a sticker price of $ 32,XXX which is a steal.
When asked your local nissan car sales guy will tell you it's only true competiton is a Boxster S which is $ 55,XXX.
I thought the car was hella ugly until i got to see one up close i am not a big fan of the door handles but everything else is awesome.

Max

racerxxx

10-21-2002, 11:25 AM

sorry dude you must be crazy.

350z is pretty fugly and has no glove compartment, but n/a 280 hp starting out at $26k??? 350z doesnt suck...its a friggin deal brutha.

hate to break it to you but i think se-r spec v sucks ass.

punksev

10-21-2002, 10:48 PM

Mickee

10-21-2002, 10:53 PM

350z is so fucking similar to G35 coupe.... hahah it was lined up at my cousin house.. too bad the digi cam had no battery....

oh yeah i know nissan and infinity is the same shit so :flip:

eh we almost owned a350z too bad we didnt preorder it..... next year next year

aSiaNdoboI

10-22-2002, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by ViSuAL_cHanGeS
350z is so fucking similar to G35 coupe.... hahah it was lined up at my cousin house.. too bad the digi cam had no battery....

oh yeah i know nissan and infinity is the same shit so :flip:

eh we almost owned a350z too bad we didnt preorder it..... next year next year
coupe?
how is that possiable when the coupe hasnt been released?

Fenrir

10-22-2002, 07:02 AM

fucking noob i aint. probably like most of the people out there you saw a movie and wanted to be like that. its just a movie and find something else. consider me a psychiatrist, but i just wanted to see the reactions i would get from people when they read what i posted. its so funny to see how people react. in all reality the car could be better, but it isn't bad.

*tisk tisk* Try not to go back on things you say; it ruins your future ethos.

Anyway, I don't like the way it looks. Maybe it is becasue all I have seen is the Silver ones. But I will say the performance is there. It is also suprisingly light. When I saw the picture for it and heard it was N/A I was thinking "shit, it's just a heavier Tiburon."

Mickee

10-22-2002, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by aSiaNdoboI
coupe?
how is that possiable when the coupe hasnt been released?

theres a couple runnning around long beach.... and i know they are g35's... ill take picture when i pass by my homies house again......... if you think the 4dr was nice you need to see the coupe.....

too bad up norcal u guys dont get the cars quick enuff.... we have so much rich people here tehy can get any cars right away.... lucky bastards....

BLAH BLA

10-22-2002, 08:14 AM

Nissan is famous for turbo cars, in case you don't know Nissan is famous for n/a small cars that kick the crap out of the competition and win races, and championships from the 1600 and 2000 roadsters of the 1960's thru the 510 sedan years to the 240-280 Z cars. Nissan built giant killers and priced so that people could actually buy them and race them, 1972 240-Z, approx. 2200lbs 170 hp at the crank optional 5-speed full instrumentation, bucket seats and an independant rear suspension with optional limited slip differential. I initially did not like them,pictures don't do the car justice. on the road they look nasty, and i might be the only one that likes that yellow color but what can I say....

Kenny9710

10-22-2002, 01:35 PM

Ya there are a few G35's out. At the Texas state Fair they had a few sittin out to show off. On the other hand I love the looks and everything about the new Z's. There was one for sale here and actually the only one for sale that was actually not ordered, and my moms been thinkin bout buyin one so we went and drove it and the thing is incredible. Its an awesome car in every aspect.

Sylkk KP

10-24-2002, 03:57 PM

I own a z32 their off the hook, but I am going after a rar performance car a 97 plymouth prowler

FIRESTARTER

10-24-2002, 04:19 PM

i didnt read all of your posts, cause im too lazy. but right before i left japan, i saw an option mag that had about 30 pages of ppl makin shit for the 350z. they had one with an hks 3037 turbo kit they made for it. so soon enough. just wait. 350z sucks.... MY ASS!!!! it definately does not suck. that thing is a fucking work of art

Mickee

10-24-2002, 04:24 PM

have you guys seen the bodykit by veilside???? hehheh i dont know i jsut felt like throwing some info about it heheeh

bluetwo

10-25-2002, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by punksev
fucking noob i aint. probably like most of the people out there you saw a movie and wanted to be like that. its just a movie and find something else. consider me a psychiatrist, but i just wanted to see the reactions i would get from people when they read what i posted. its so funny to see how people react. in all reality the car could be better, but it isn't bad.

TRANSLATION: i intentionally started a flame war b/c i think i'm funnier than i really am... (and i'll make everyone think i'm not 14 by making vague sarcastic references about FnF)

:rolleyes:

RICHEYRACER

10-26-2002, 12:59 PM

the 350z is bad ass there is a guy at my school his daddy bought him one man i wish my daddy would buy me one

punksev

10-26-2002, 09:20 PM

translation for bluetwo... i'm a fucking ignorant bitch who just like to voice my dumb ass opinion, so people wont think i'm twelve and wishes i could drive.

by the way bluetwo, i aint 14. obviously if i can live by myself and support myself i have some of brain left... dick. oh yeah and if your offended let me know. i can give you directions to my apartement so i can whip your little ass up and down the street. oh and next time you wanna try and piss someone off make shure you know who the fuck your dealing with dumb ass.

Scott

10-26-2002, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by punksev
translation for bluetwo... i'm a fucking ignorant bitch who just like to voice my dumb ass opinion, so people wont think i'm twelve and wishes i could drive..

now is that any way for a "psychiatrist" to talk? explain again why we shouldnt think your a 14 year old brat?

Sylkk KP

10-27-2002, 09:01 AM

Like sylkk said Z's are good but a prowler or 850csi is better

datsun510dude

10-27-2002, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by max_misawa
99.5% of americans don't like turbo cars that is just a fact.
American like N A bottom line.
the 350Z has a 53/47 weight ratio= perfect balance.
an has a sticker price of $ 32,XXX which is a steal.
When asked your local nissan car sales guy will tell you it's only true competiton is a Boxster S which is $ 55,XXX.
I thought the car was hella ugly until i got to see one up close i am not a big fan of the door handles but everything else is awesome.

Max

I LOVE TURBO! and why would 99+% of americans dont like turbo?:confused:We need more turbo cars to come out. The GTI golf is pretty quick and nothing compares to the pull of a turbo and the great sound they make when spooling up.:bam:

datsun510dude

10-27-2002, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by BLAH BLA
Nissan is famous for turbo cars, in case you don't know Nissan is famous for n/a small cars that kick the crap out of the competition and win races, and championships from the 1600 and 2000 roadsters of the 1960's thru the 510 sedan years to the 240-280 Z cars. Nissan built giant killers and priced so that people could actually buy them and race them, 1972 240-Z, approx. 2200lbs 170 hp at the crank optional 5-speed full instrumentation, bucket seats and an independant rear suspension with optional limited slip differential. I initially did not like them,pictures don't do the car justice. on the road they look nasty, and i might be the only one that likes that yellow color but what can I say....

Yep I love Nissan and their engines. I bet americans would like turbo engines if they brought thew Silvia and Skyline over straight from Japan w/o any "carb mods" and shit :)

ANd I have a 510 and trust me, its a fun lil car and can handle with the best of them and the best thing of all is NO SMOG!!!!!!!! ;)

Sylkk KP

10-27-2002, 09:42 AM

I hate N/A cars the bigger the turbos the better

Sylkk KP

10-27-2002, 09:46 AM

Z alright but when you really ball like Sylkk balls you will desire something more exotic=a prowler, but I think I will buy bmw 850csi instead, the low displacement import crowd ain't ready for a stock 315 v-12 bimmer, come on now gangsta, this is whats really good

Scott

10-27-2002, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
Z alright but when you really ball like Sylkk balls you will desire something more exotic=a prowler, but I think I will buy bmw 850csi instead, the low displacement import crowd ain't ready for a stock 315 v-12 bimmer, come on now gangsta, this is whats really good

mmm...an overpriced, 4200+ pound, 322hp monster that still runs 15s, and gets like 15mpg...i'd say there are plenty of other imports "ready" for it.

and you really like balls?

punksev

10-27-2002, 04:27 PM

alright scott. your right i'm wrong that was the wrong thing to say.

Sylkk KP

10-28-2002, 03:12 PM

mmm...an overpriced, 4200+ pound, 322hp monster that still runs 15s, and gets like 15mpg...i'd say there are plenty of other imports "ready" for it.

Whats crackin Scotty

which car are you refering to, the 850 or the prowler?
How do know what it runs, have you ever driven one? I have they will eat the average imort car, ie you honda civics, celicas, eclipses, ect.....It not over priced because it is a loaded luxury car that not too many people know about, their not made any more, don' t discourage me because I want to try something differant! Plus their are many ways to lighten the 850

Plus you can't floss in a civic now can you?

Sylkk KP

10-28-2002, 03:15 PM

Ps Scotty why are you defending imports you drive a crappy piece of domestic trash, Chevy and not even a fast one.......boy your targeting everyone today first Punksev now me

Scott

10-28-2002, 06:15 PM

Angel5

10-28-2002, 06:28 PM

The only thing exotic about a Prowler is it's looks.
Oh wow, an automatic V6 that pulls .79g's in the corners and runs high 14s in the quarter; all for only $40k, what a steal!

It's production got cut for a reason, and a damn good one.

Sylkk KP

10-29-2002, 02:03 PM

i'd race you in an 850 around an autocross course any day of the week and more than likely whoop all 4200 pounds of it. besides, mid 15s isnt fast when you have over 300hp.

and the prowler...why did they even make it if they were just going to put a v6 in it?

plus, how do you know what i've driven? i'm willing to venture you don't have a clue. but go ahead and assume all you want. then you brag about how it can "eat" civics, eclipses, etc. well let's do a little analysis.

approx. cost:
1991 bmw 850: $25,000
1991 honda civic si hatch: $5,500
1991 mitsu eclipse gsx: $5,250

now in a race, i'd probably give it to the gsx...plus with the 20,000 you save, you'd have a damn fine car that would race circles around that tank of a bimmer.

1997 bmw 850: $45,000
1997 honda civic: $10,000
1997 mitsu eclipse gsx: $13,000

i'm sorry but i would much rather have a 97 gsx which would stack up very well against a 91 bmw 850 in a straight line, beat it on the turns, and still cost 12k less. besides, i'm sure plenty of people that actually care about cars know about them. but who's trying to discourage you, i was mearly pointing out something til you had to have a fit like a little kid. go ahead, be different. should i care what you're driving around? of course not. wo why bitch and moan about it?

oh and by the way...i wouldnt "floss" anything. ever.

p.s. nothing against bmw's. they're fine cars, i would just never drag race one. i think too highly of them. i would be more than happy to own and road race an m3, take a family around in an m5, and make a show car out of a 7 or 8 series if i was into that sort of thing.

Kinda slow huh, well obviously if I was considering to buy a 25,000+ bimmer I don't care about price,so camparing the prices of that and a lowdisplacement civic was pointless, second I would supercharge it, add headers, exhaust, limiters and adjust or replace the ECM(computer) chip, and a cold air intake, putting out an easy 400hp+ second lighten the body with carbon fiber parts, replace the rims, swap the engine block for a rebuilt aluminum or titanium one, and thats just to start, What car would recommend, remember try not to be so typical, pick something differant that everybody else doesn't have......

Also to Angel5 "The only thing exotic about a Prowler is it's looks.
Oh wow, an automatic V6 that pulls .79g's in the corners and runs high 14s in the quarter; all for only $40k, what a steal!

It's production got cut for a reason, and a damn good one"

You can get a manual transmission prowler, it has a 255 N/A v6 better than your average import.....and you can get one for less than $40K what would happen if I supercharged it that prowler? oh yeah they are extremly light due to the fact that it is aluminum frame based, the extensive use of aluminum allows the Prowler to achieve a curb weight of only 2850lbs. Can you beat that, a fast car, puts out around 250+horses N/A, light and hardly anybody has them, let alone modded race ready ones.......find a car that can beat that bargain

Sylkk KP

10-29-2002, 02:40 PM

Ok one last thought I was really feeling those corvettes, you know those 8 cylinder, killers of low displacement import cars, yeah maybe a 2k corvette instead of a prowler, the only draw back is that they are way too common......I'd like you thoughts on this one.....what car can take a vette.....stock for stock?

By Scotty
"I was mearly pointing out something til you had to have a fit like a little kid. go ahead, be different. should i care what you're driving around? of course not. wo why bitch and moan about it"

Oh yeah, I never had a fit, I just casually responded to what you posted......I will be differant.....You gave me a pretty indepth response for someone who doesn't care what I drive.....Sounds like The Green Eyed Monster rearing it ugly head in a fit of envy.....maybe because I have enough money to broaden my horizon other than the civic price range and try to pursue a REAL SPORTS CAR?! I don't a fake sports car, I want a real one....If you don't know, a real sports car comes fast...a fake one you have to make it fast!...... one more thing, since you down the cars I was considering......what do you recommend, also what do you drive...You seem very hostile, is using profanity the only way you have to express yourself?? I don't know about you, whats really, really good with you, Blood?

punksev

10-29-2002, 02:45 PM

oh scott, sylkk KP can bitch and complain all he wants cause you have been doing it since i posted this thread

Scott

10-29-2002, 03:04 PM

where was i profane? you're the one talking about "gangsta balls". there's a fine line between being different, and being ridiculous. and you want my opinion about a better car that isnt too popular?

what about...and bmw m3, corvette, wrx, lancer evo, etc. or since you seemingly have an infinite amount of money, why not a real sports car? aston martin, mclaren, ferrari, lambo, porsche?

you want my opinion and so i'm giving it. and i stand by my statement about not caring what you drive. i do care when someone has a misguided opinion though.

and how is it that the prowler, which seems to be smaller than my "piece of domestic trash", but weighs about 200 pounds more? lightweight materials indeed.

and finally, i never said i was proud of my car. i can push it to the limits on a road course. but that isnt why i bought it. i needed basic transportation. it works fine for that. the racing i do in it is merely fun on the side. besides, i'm working on buying a couple more cars right now. an old datsun roadster for an autocross project car and something else for a rally car. i really dont care about the car being rare. because being a good driver will get more attention from car enthusiasts than having a "phat" ride.

Angel5

10-29-2002, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
You can get a manual transmission prowler
No, you can't. All Prowlers have a rear-mounted 4-speed automatic transmission with Chrysler's Autostick manual-shift feature.

it has a 255 N/A v6 better than your average import.....and you can get one for less than $40K

Your average $40k import has more than 253hp. Hell, Maximas do. And the MSRP is $40k+, yes you can get them cheaper, but not new.

They sold so well the first year(97) that they didn't come back for '98. Only after they tossed in an engine that made more than 214hp and had chrome wheels could they bring it back. And even then you still didn't get ABS or traction control on one of the loudest pieces of shit to ever come out in the 90s.

what would happen if I supercharged it that prowler?

Then you'd have less money and still a slow car. The Hennessey Prowler with it's 365hp and 450ft-lbs of torque only does 13.1 in the quarter mile. Let me go buy a stock Camaro SS for half the price and beat that. At least it's 3600lb body can turn worth a shit.

Can you beat that, a fast car, puts out around 250+horses N/A, light and hardly anybody has them, let alone modded race ready ones.......find a car that can beat that bargain
Sure. Factory Five Daytona coupe.

And what are you talking about race-ready? It runs 14s which aint beating shit but stock Neons and Cavaliers. And it pulls less on the lateral than a Honda Accord EX. Toss $10-15k worth of shit at it since the aftermarket must be just huge for such an "amazing" automobile and you might have something just as "fast" as a stock Camaro.

Angel5

10-29-2002, 04:30 PM

http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~cheston/lemans350z.jpg

Who wrecks 'em faster than Americans? Noooobody. :)

Red93R1

10-29-2002, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
Ok one last thought I was really feeling those corvettes, you know those 8 cylinder, killers of low displacement import cars, yeah maybe a 2k corvette instead of a prowler, the only draw back is that they are way too common......I'd like you thoughts on this one.....what car can take a vette.....stock for stock?

I personally know of a 1.3L twin turbo car that is almost 10 years old that stock for stock can beat a C5 Corvette in nearly every way, not counting the Z06.

Fenrir

10-29-2002, 06:09 PM

Hehehe....this guy has to go on the list. Making a race ready 8-series or a prowler? The average import can't beat it?

Hell, a 2k dollar 5.0 foxboy STOCK would tear the shit out of your two "bling blingin" cars. Dump whatever you want into the 850 or the Prowler becasue 2k for a foxbody and 38k to invest into mods will be faster than those two cars could imagine.

Oh yeah, I never had a fit, I just casually responded to what you posted......I will be differant.....You gave me a pretty indepth response for someone who doesn't care what I drive.....Sounds like The Green Eyed Monster rearing it ugly head in a fit of envy.....maybe because I have enough money to broaden my horizon other than the civic price range and try to pursue a REAL SPORTS CAR?! I don't a fake sports car, I want a real one....If you don't know, a real sports car comes fast...a fake one you have to make it fast!...... one more thing, since you down the cars I was considering......what do you recommend, also what do you drive...You seem very hostile, is using profanity the only way you have to express yourself?? I don't know about you, whats really, really good with you, Blood?

Btw, unless you are one of the new gay mainstream rappers I HIGHLY doubt you're "flossin rich." Maybe you are on of the icey hot stunnaz? :haha:

second I would supercharge it, add headers, exhaust, limiters and adjust or replace the ECM(computer) chip, and a cold air intake, putting out an easy 400hp+ second lighten the body with carbon fiber parts, replace the rims, swap the engine block for a rebuilt aluminum or titanium one

I'm sorry...but this is what made me have to respond. You're going to supercharge it and then swap the brand new block for a rebuilt one? Good idea!

BLAH BLA

10-30-2002, 07:25 AM

Fenrir

10-30-2002, 10:37 AM

Why does this subject always have to be about money. I don't really care if you can buy a car for less and use the money you save to modify it. That may be important to you, but I buy what I like or want. There is no correct way to do it, there is no right car to buy. We should all spend our money how we want.

It's so easy to say "money isn't a factor." But lets be realistic.

The GNI of the average american family is somewhere around 47k last I checked. Do you know what that means? That means the majority of us "ain't rollin high." So why is money important in car relations? It just makes sense. Yea, with a million dollars I'm sure you could make a Geo Metro run 10s in the 1/4. But why? It's just so much easier and cheaper to use other cars for platforms. Do you know why a good part of the domestic race market is built on Mustangs and Camaros? Because they are easy to make fast and, mod wise, relatively cheap. I have a rich friend with a pompous ass dad who says "Camaros and Mustangs are the poor mans sports car." I hate that. Why spend 99k on a Porsche when you can spend 11k on a Z28 that runs just 1.5 seconds slower (in stock form) Most of us are reasonable and think about cars on reasonable budgets. If this was Viperforums.com or supraforums.com then money becomes less of a factor when selecing cars.

The average joe blow would be better off getting a Dodge Neon to Autocross in rather than a Ferrari. When most car hobbyists talk about cars they tlak about what they can do within reason. What....a TVR Tuscan Speed 12 can run a 10 second 1/4 mile stock? Yea, thats a great fast car. It's also 345k AND is only in Europe.

Think according to your budgets people.....

BLAH BLA

10-30-2002, 01:00 PM

I agree with you that most of people really do have to work within a budget. But the argument is not really like that. It is usually like this:
John: "I really like that new cobra,its really fast"
steve: "but it is $35k"
John: "But its really fast"
steve: "Dude,you could by a civic and use the money you save to
make it just as fast."
John: "That does not make any sense, I am still spending $30k"
Steve: "stop hating technology bro', v-tec rules"

Just a lame attempt at using humor to make my point.

Fenrir

10-31-2002, 06:46 AM

Yea, I understand. But with about 7k (I'm including the price of a used car) most typical tuners can make a good streetable 10-11 second car with quite a few platforms. Hell, the fastest street MX-3 in the world uses a BPT that costs $2000 with a tranny. And MX3's can be found for around $900 if they are just a shell. DSMS or Foxbody 5.0s? They are the cheapest of the cheap at running fast. Datsuns work well for drag when you put a lot of different engines in them. And so forth.

I'm not thinking of "YEA! A CIVIC WITH 30k IN MODS IS COOL!"

I'm saying if you want to run 11's all that you really need is the bonus you get for signing up with most military branches in the government.

BLAH BLA

10-31-2002, 07:30 AM

yeah, I agree with you. I pobably should have been more clear in the first place. I purchased a 5.0 for just that reason. I was going to make a part time racer, but after looking into it I decided I would still rather race a bike. If bang for the buck is a consideration some of you might look into bikes. $3500 in a bike could get you into the low 10's.

Sylkk KP

10-31-2002, 03:46 PM

Well I guess I'm the bad guy in this forum now? God forbid I stray from the norm, and desire something differant than the latest low displacement bandwagon trend......IE YOUR CIVIC

next some pretty offensive things were said....

Hey oreo...stock for stock and mod for mod...a prowler will kill 9 out of 10 of the average imports on the roads IN MY AREA...I DON'T CARE AVOUT ANYWHERE BUT MY AREA AND NEAR ME THE IMPORTS REALLY AREN'T THAT FAST

Ok look at statistics...if you can make a 106 horsepower civic fast, then why can't you make a 255hp, 2800lb prowler fast, some of you live by jealous double standards....lets be serious if I dump 5k into any prowler....I promise you it will be fast....plus if you have 38k to invest in a car why don't you buy a better car lets say a porsche...

I see some of you points with the 850, they are riduculiously heavy....but a prowler or a vette...come on now soon you'll be telling me jettas can beat vipers...

Next a 850 isn't a "bling bling" car rich old white men drive them, try again TO BE OFFENSIVE...
.

Next don't mock and insult Afro-American culture just because you don't like rap...You wouldn't say those things about "icey hot stunnaz if I were white, would you....maybe I did well in school and can now live a little more lavish than the average... Its a car site not a racial hate message site...lets try and be mature adults and keep our questionable vulgar comments to our self

Next about swaping blocks it doesn't have to be in that order, I was just listing options for getting a faster engine...of course I wouldn't supercharge then trade the block...I don't have to do either I could upgrade the fuel rails and put that "NOS" you low displacement trendies depend on and live by

WHOOOOOOAAAA......Hey chief....What "AVERAGE GUY HAS 38K UP FRONT TO INVEST IN ANY ENGINE BAY...WHAT THIS GUY MUST NOT HAVE A HOUSE , HUH.....LETS BE REALISTIC....THAT KINDA FALICY IS ONLY IN THE MOVIES

Sylkk KP

10-31-2002, 04:03 PM

Red93R1

I personally know of a 1.3L twin turbo car that is almost 10 years old that stock for stock can beat a C5 Corvette in nearly every way, not counting the Z06.

SURE YOU DO ...JUST WATCHED FAST AND THE FURIOUS AND NOW YOU WANNA STOMP WITH THE BIG DOGGS?? Firstly a corvette with 10k invested in its engine will beat your 1.3 twin turbo ...what the....you didn't even say what can you "peronally knew of" lemme guess an Rx7?...not gonna happen...plus how do you know if it can beat a c5...accept it the facts the average import on the road can't beat a prowler, a c5 or a

z06=a 5.7L V-8 engine that produces 385 horsepower...

2k prowler=weights in at 2838 Horsepower is 253 and thats freakin stockyour stock import can't touch that......even with your NOS....
Now what you bout

Mickee

10-31-2002, 04:10 PM

give me a civic hb and 10k ill walk all over the cars you jsut mentioned....

people like civics cause its a FUN TOY and its easy to fuck around with....

can you do you own maintenance on a porsche?? hmm i think not unless you have the proper tools.....

Angel5

10-31-2002, 04:20 PM

Since he did say, "non ZO6" Sylkk KP, I'd think a stock FD3S Rx7 would be a good match against a C5 coupe.

The Corvette does have more power, but it's also moving a lot more mass with worse weight distribution.

C5 only has 345hp, and a Z06 has 405 not 385.

Prowler runs 14s in the quarter mile. A stock Rx7 embarasses that. You know, having more hp and weighing less and all.

Think before you start speaking like an ignorant little 16 year old. Not everyone who likes imports loves Fast&Furious, owns a Civic and runs "NOS."

Hell, I own a Mustang but I'd take a Civic hatchback over a Prowler if I wasn't going to do tons of custom work. They have a bigger aftermarket, more potential for power and they handle and brake better.

Scott

11-01-2002, 04:03 AM

ah sylkk, you talk about our double standards when you yourself are trying to flaunt the fact that you have an insane amount of money (or claim to have) like you're better than us somehow.

and then you play the race card...oh the many times i've seen this. well i for one can say i really dont care what race you are. black, white, asian, purple, doesnt matter to me...i still dont like you. you don't even know what you're talking about.

97 prowler
217 hp
221 lb/ft of torque
4-speed automatic
2862 pounds

93 rx-7 tt
255 hp
217 lb/ft of torque
4-speed auto or 5-speed manual
2789 pounds

ok, so the rx-7 is more powerful, comes in a 5-speed, weighs less, and handles better....but the prowler would still "stomp on it"? riiiiiiight....

then there's the aftermarket. the rx-7 clearly has a much stronger aftermarket, thus meaning in the long run it will be faster as well. i mean...how many 500hp+ prowlers do you hear about?

it's really this simple man: if you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth.

Red93R1

11-01-2002, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
Red93R1

I personally know of a 1.3L twin turbo car that is almost 10 years old that stock for stock can beat a C5 Corvette in nearly every way, not counting the Z06.

SURE YOU DO ...JUST WATCHED FAST AND THE FURIOUS AND NOW YOU WANNA STOMP WITH THE BIG DOGGS?? Firstly a corvette with 10k invested in its engine will beat your 1.3 twin turbo ...what the....you didn't even say what can you "peronally knew of" lemme guess an Rx7?...not gonna happen...plus how do you know if it can beat a c5...accept it the facts the average import on the road can't beat a prowler, a c5 or a

z06=a 5.7L V-8 engine that produces 385 horsepower...

2k prowler=weights in at 2838 Horsepower is 253 and thats freakin stockyour stock import can't touch that......even with your NOS....
Now what you bout

WTF? TF&F was a stupid movie. I had my 93 rx7 for over a year before VinDiesel and company ruined it for all of us. I have raced and beat C5 Vettes at the 1/4 mile track (14.0 in Colorado and no C5 but the Z06 runs that stock up there). Where the hell do you get the $10k to invest into the C5's engine? I thought this was originally about "stock for stock"?
How about you crawl back into the hole you came from and don't come back out until you grow up.

Fenrir

11-01-2002, 07:19 AM

"Hey oreo...stock for stock and mod for mod...a prowler will kill 9 out of 10 of the average imports on the roads IN MY AREA...I DON'T CARE AVOUT ANYWHERE BUT MY AREA AND NEAR ME THE IMPORTS REALLY AREN'T THAT FAST "

That's an illogical fallacy. I raced a total newb in an s2000 and whooped him. My car is a dsm. Therefore DSMs can blow s2000 away stock against stock :rolleyes: Go to www.supercars.net and look at some real statistics. Your precious prowler has the 0-60 time of an H22 prelude. You're basically paying 40k for a car that is slower than A LOT of other cars that can be had for around 20k.

Hell, my dsm, an integra type R, the new Dodge Neon T-25 turbo car, or a Mazdaspeed Protege can all kick the living shit out of a Prowler. Stock for stock. Want to mod the cars? The Dodge Neon isn't even out yet but within a year it will easily have twice the aftermarket of the Prowler. Know why? Because of the ease *key word* of it. If you were going to do luxury car racing then you'd know one of hte easiest cars with the biggest aftermarkets would be the BMW 323i E46. It's placing 3rd last I checked at BTCC (British Touring Car.....Cup? Championship? I can't remember the last letter) The opnly thing beating it is the Toyota Altezza and some kind of Mercedes. Still, dollar for dollar, you can't beat it.

Well, an M3 would probably be better in the long run....but at that point I'd buy a Z06.

Well I guess I'm the bad guy in this forum now? God forbid I stray from the norm, and desire something differant than the latest low displacement bandwagon trend......IE YOUR CIVIC

Damn, my civicz iz tihgt yoz! Don't be knoxin it!
We really don't know what you are rocking. So I'm going to assume you are walking. That means a Civic is faster than you. A Colt is faster than you. *sigh* A Metro is faster than you :smokin:

Ok look at statistics...if you can make a 106 horsepower civic fast, then why can't you make a 255hp, 2800lb prowler fast, some of you live by jealous double standards....lets be serious if I dump 5k into any prowler....I promise you it will be fast....plus if you have 38k to invest in a car why don't you buy a better car lets say a porsche...

Porshces aren't 38k. Try 112k. And the Z06 is about dead even with it. Lets see....A dodge Viper AND a Corvette or a Porshce911. If you have millions upon millions then get all three. If you are pulling in 200k a year then I'd know which one I'd get.

Next don't mock and insult Afro-American culture just because you don't like rap...You wouldn't say those things about "icey hot stunnaz if I were white, would you....maybe I did well in school and can now live a little more lavish than the average... Its a car site not a racial hate message site...lets try and be mature adults and keep our questionable vulgar comments to our self

Keep it mature? Most of the people telling you that you are wrong are mature. You're making insanse claims about the Prowler which we all know is worthless. You won't admit you're wrong. And you can't accept the fact you're not flossin.

Oh, and for the record, I like rap. It's just everyone on te board knows that I'm racist and HATE black people :rolleyes:

2k prowler=weights in at 2838 Horsepower is 253 and thats freakin stockyour stock import can't touch that......even with your NOS....

We all love NOS. It's the ONLY way to have a fast car.

I swear, this fucker must be famous and rich. He's probably Jarule. Kind of explains the stupididty about cars.
"Oh, a couple SR20de engines to put into those Civics!!"

punksev

11-01-2002, 08:53 AM

yeah... uhm...
when you say that the porsche is 112k, yeah... your right. but, find a used 928 for about 4k with i think somewhere around 280-300 horses stock, and tell me that aint right. yes, the 928 has an aftermarket (yet a little more expensive than your civics and bitchin camaros), but its there.

oh and oreopride17, i like the little remark about the sr20's and the civics (although one was an integra), one of the many things i hate about that movie

:haha: :smokin: :o

Scott

11-01-2002, 02:49 PM

porsche 928's are alright i suppose...but they just seem that powerful. and they dont seem to have the same fit and finish that a porsche should have. but if i was going to get a front engine porsche, i'd have to go with a 944 turbo.

Sylkk KP

11-01-2002, 04:03 PM

OOOOO DID I TOUCH A NERVE??

Well I will address this message to oreo pride, since I can't respond to every body at once I will try my very hardest to respond to all my STUDENTS....NIEVE FOOLS....what a odd name, if you hate Blacks why do you call yourself an oreo....hmmmm sounds like a severe case of denial..... anyways...None the less
Ps thank you for the website...its pretty good site..next I don't care about how much aftermarket the prowler has I want to be unique...the less hype and aftermarket there is the less chances there are for some one to have a modded one...Next cookie boy I am looking at your site, I see it SUPPORTS MY THEORY ABOUT THE PROWLER'S WIEGHT...IT IS FEATHER LIGHT FOR A 6 CYLINDER ITS SIZE..and has a little more horsepower than the s2k, let alone a civic...I will retract my previous statement...the site doesn't seem to be entirely accurate....giving the top speed of a prowler 117mph ...next I don't care how racist you are....what does it really matter...I won't dignify your tired unoriginal ATTEMPTS to be insulting...but I am a bigger man...ask your girlfriend...oops I mean your sister..but seriously go on to www.auto trader.com...you can find a porsche for 12,000...an 1987 but its still a porsche...

"Damn, my civicz iz tihgt yoz! Don't be knoxin it!
We really don't know what you are rocking. So I'm going to assume you are walking. That means a Civic is faster than you. A Colt is faster than you. *sigh* A Metro is faster than you
"
Now here's my favorite part...I DRIVE A 1990 NISSAN 300ZX N/A....5 SPEED MANUAL...THAT IS HOW i KNOW YOUR SITE IS NOT FACTUAL THE TOP SPEED ON A 1990 ZX IS 160MPH, NOT 148 like you site says...I KNOW ABOUT HORSEPOWER..

CHUMP

Sylkk KP

11-01-2002, 04:27 PM

One more thing oreopride17..you don't have to be rich to have a fast car, it simple JUST BUY A FAST CAR

Sorry red39r1 for dipping into your "time" with a response to oreo boy...I know all about the rx-7 I was gonna buy one until I realized they are all hype....any twin turbo that puts out a megar 255 horsepower, well, its one I don't want...why a twin turbo 300zx puts out 300-320 horses....ok explain to me why I should grow up .....is it because I like something differant? Yes rx-7s are light but they are weak,WEAK,weak..your gonna have to accept that

Angel5

11-01-2002, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
Yes rx-7s are light but they are weak,WEAK,weak..your gonna have to accept that

RX7 - 255hp, 2800lbs - 10.98lbs/hp
300ZX - 300hp, 3400lbs - 11.33lbs/hp

You have a lot to learn on what makes a car fast kiddie, and it's not just power.
Early 70s Cadillac's had great power too...

Sylkk KP

11-01-2002, 05:08 PM

Ahhhhhh Scott: don't worry I didn't forget about you ...I liked your message of DOUBLE STANDARDS SO MUCH I JUST HAD TO COPY IT....I'll number the messages and answer them in that order so you STUDENTS can keep up with me, also under scotty's message I will give you all a quality and official sylkk message in caps...WELL LETS GO......

uh-oh...the baby fell.

1"ah sylkk, you talk about our double standards when you yourself are trying to flaunt the fact that you have an insane amount of money (or claim to have) like you're better than us somehow.

1a-I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY OR HOW MUCH I HAD...THATS THE MAJORITY OF YOU GUYS(WHEN I SAY YOU GUYS..I MEAN PEOPLE THAT HAVE A BONE TO PICK WITH ME)

2-and then you play the race card...oh the many times i've seen this. well i for one can say i really dont care what race you are. black, white, asian, purple, doesnt matter to me...i still dont like you. you don't even know what you're talking about.

2a-I'M NOT PLAYING THE RACE CARD, OREO JUST OPENLY ANNOUNCED THAT HE HATES ALL BLACKS(AFRO-AMERICANS)...OH HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SEEN THIS,WELL YOU FOR ONE CAN CLAIM WHAT YOU WANT,YOU KLU-KLUX KLAN BROTHER OREO JUST PROVED ME RIGHT!

3-97prowler
217 hp
221 lb/ft of torque
4-speed automatic
2862 pounds

3a-I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A 97 PROWLER i'M TALKIN ABOUT A 2K PROWLER TRY AGAIN

2K PROWLER
3.5L 6 Cylinder 253 hp Gas
Torque: 255 @ 3950rpm
4-speed automatic
Curb Weight: 2838

4-93 rx-7 tt
255 hp
217 lb/ft of torque
4-speed auto or 5-speed manual
2789 pounds

4a-yes a twin turbo 93 rx-7 is more powerful than a 2k prowler, but usually the guy that can afford to finaince a prowler, can afford to supercharge it and BLAMM 340 SOMETHIN HORSES

5-ok, so the rx-7 is more powerful, comes in a 5-speed, weighs less, and handles better....but the prowler would still "stomp on it"? riiiiiiight....
5A-MAYBE DEPENDS ON THE DRIVER, RIGHT I MEAN 2 MORE HORSES ON THE RX-7'S SIDE WON'T MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERANCE, UNLESS YOU ADD A RIDICULOUS FART SOUNDING MUFFLER TO THE RX-7 THEN IT WILL BE REALLY FAST...BESIDES AN RX-7 IS NOT THE AVERAGE IMPORT ON THE ROAD IN MY AREA

6-then there's the aftermarket. the rx-7 clearly has a much stronger aftermarket, thus meaning in the long run it will be faster as well. i mean...how many 500hp+ prowlers do you hear about?
6A- YEAH OK YOU CAN THAT THE IMPORT BIBLE( FAST AND THE FURIOUS ) FOR THAT

7-it's really this simple man: if you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth.

7A- TAKE SOME OF YOUR OWN ADVICE..YOU DON'T HAVE A RX-7 STOP HANGIN ON THE RX-7"S SAC LET IT BREATH..255 OUT OF A TWIN TURBO CHARGED CAR REALLY AIN'T THAT FAST..

8-97 Cavalier RS - Slow and steady, but not winning the race

8A-YOU DAMNED RIGHT YOU ARE SLOW AND NOT WINNING ANY RACES..BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STEADY PART...CAN A CAVALIER BEAT A PROWLER, WHY TALK WHEN WE CAN SEE FOR OUR SELVES
=2.2L 4 Cylinder 120 hp Gas-IF YOU WANT AN ENGINE UPGRADE YOU CAN HAVE MY
LAWNMOWER'S ENGINE..
THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU AND
INCREASE IN HORSEPOWER
=Torque: 130 @ 4000rpm
=3 Speed Automatic, -THATS JUST SAD, OR AN OPTIONAL 5-SPEED MANUAL
=Curb Weight: 2617

I'LL BET MY RED 1990 NISSAN FAIRLADY Z(300ZX) WITH A CUSTOM MONZA EXHAUST,NEW ENGINE FROM STILLEN,T-TOPS,NEW YOKAHOMA TIRES,JSPEC FLOORMATS AND INTERIOR,AND KENWOOD AND INFINITY SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE THE AUTOMATIC 3-SPEED, DID I MENTION THAT A STOCK 300ZXN/A HAS 222 HORSES, A # YOU'LL NEVER SEE OUT OF YOUR CAVELIAR

Red93R1

11-01-2002, 05:23 PM

Sylkk, you need to just quit digging your grave. Your posts get dumber and dumber. Of course it makes it more and more fun (and easy) for people to blast you.

First off, you somehow missed the sarcasm in Oreo's post about being racist. That makes it even funnier!

Second, you started the whole race thing. It is people like you that make other people racist.

Third, just because you drive a 300ZX n/a doesn't mean you know it goes 160. Have you gone that fast in it? Everything I have found so far says the TT only goes (electronically limited) 155 and I have found 140-148 for the n/a.

Fourth, look at the aerodynamics of the Prowler. If that thing went 117 it would be a road hazard! Convetibles are not very often good high speed cars, let alone hot-rod convertibles! I did a search using Google, in 10 minutes I found about 10 sites that report the top speed as 117, one that says "about 120", and one that said "over 130". That last one was obviously a nut case since he also said on his page "the prowler is fast".

Fifth, the "weak,WEAK,weak" rx7 has more HP than the mighty Prowler you dream of and weighs less.

Sixth, you still need to grow up. If you can't figure out why then I feel sorry for you. My condolences... Unless you really are a 12 year old boy then it is ok to act like one, just don't lie and tell us you are older..

Oh, I almost forgot. Do you have a right hand drive Japan model 300zx? If not please dont say you drive a fairlady.

Fenrir

11-01-2002, 06:07 PM

OOOOO DID I TOUCH A NERVE??

No. My name oreopride comes from the fact that I have white pride. After I run down some of those negroes with my car I tend to eat oreos. Hence, oreopride. :haha:

*sigh* before you have an anurism think about the name. Oreos are what color? Anyway, thats besides the point.

I DRIVE A 1990 NISSAN 300ZX N/A....5 SPEED MANUAL...THAT IS HOW i KNOW YOUR SITE IS NOT FACTUAL THE TOP SPEED ON A 1990 ZX IS 160MPH, NOT 148 like you site says...I KNOW ABOUT HORSEPOWER..

Alright. About 6 months ago I had got bit by the "go faster" bug and had decided to drop my MX-3 for something else. I went through a lot of cars and found that 300ZX NA 90-96 could be found for around 7k in relatively good condition. Do you know why I'm driving the car I chose now (my 96 Tight Civic DX!) instead of a 300zx N/A? The fastest N/A Z32 in the world was built by Stillen for a private customer. It runs a 13.2. A fucking 13.2. There are enough aftermarket supports to get CRXs in the 12's at least.

BTW, you were cracking on NITROUS (not NOS) That 13.2 was achieved on an 100 direct port shot. The most you can beef up that little engine of yours is to 260HP NA (around there if I remember right) So you need the 100 shot to just get to where the stock 300ZX TT. Hence, I did my research and realized it was not a fast car to get. But my they do look nice :bow: The same reason that the fastest NA Z32 runs a low 13 is the same reason a 95-99 NA Eclipse (with practically the Dodge Neon engine) runs 14's at best: the higher end model is simply better. Well, there is this guy on tuners who is making a BADASS fully built N/A 1g 4g63.....but that will be the diamond in the rough....

One more thing oreopride17..you don't have to be rich to have a fast car, it simple JUST BUY A FAST CAR

Those 12k Porsches? They are either REALLY nice condition (they had better be) 944 turbos or they are well taken care of 924s. I'm sure their might even be a few 964s form the 70s in the upper 15-20k price range. BTW, all the above mentioned porsches run low 14's to mid 15's stock. They are nowhere near te same level as the 911. A 5.0 foxbody runs a 14.9 stock and can be found for around 2k. Sure, it's simple to buy a fast car. If you are on a budget then you buy one within reason. BTW, you bought a good looking car but I can tell you from driving one that it really isn't that fast (15.5 stock quarter mile time ;) )

4a-yes a twin turbo 93 rx-7 is more powerful than a 2k prowler, but usually the guy that can afford to finaince a prowler, can afford to supercharge it and BLAMM 340 SOMETHIN HORSES

*in the voice of the guy from Happy Gilmore* Ya jackass! People are running streetable 10's on the 13bTT RX-7's. That Prowler has a ways to go before it catches one of those. You really are into nice looking cars that have the fastest times in the world in the 13's.

2a-I'M NOT PLAYING THE RACE CARD, OREO JUST OPENLY ANNOUNCED THAT HE HATES ALL BLACKS(AFRO-AMERICANS)...OH HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SEEN THIS,WELL YOU FOR ONE CAN CLAIM WHAT YOU WANT,YOU KLU-KLUX KLAN BROTHER OREO JUST PROVED ME RIGHT!

Umm....The South shall rise again? :confused: yea! THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN!!

http://www.geocities.com/oreopride17/DanielOreoPage4.html

Holy shit...I havent touched that page in years. Check out my ooooooold car.
http://www.geocities.com/oreopride17/

BTW, reading through your (techincal term) bullshit again I realize something. You hate the imports it seems. But you DRIVE AN IMPORT (and not a very fast one at that) your import is actual slower than Red93's import. Than Ange5's import. Scottys domestic would tear you up (sounds like it would) My old MX-3 would have kept up with the 300ZX pretty easily. Actually, I raced one before in a streetrace and beat it. So, according to how your logic works MX3's are faster. ;-)

But really, that was my crowning moment in the modded MX3. Boy do I miss it sometimes :(

Angel5

11-01-2002, 07:43 PM

Oh shit, J-spec floormats and T-tops.
I'm sorry guys, I can no longer make fun of him. He seemed like a dumbass little kid before, but now that I know he's seriously into modifying cars into pure speed machines; he's way out of my league.

Scott

11-02-2002, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP

8-97 Cavalier RS - Slow and steady, but not winning the race

8A-YOU DAMNED RIGHT YOU ARE SLOW AND NOT WINNING ANY RACES..BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STEADY PART...CAN A CAVALIER BEAT A PROWLER, WHY TALK WHEN WE CAN SEE FOR OUR SELVES
=2.2L 4 Cylinder 120 hp Gas-IF YOU WANT AN ENGINE UPGRADE YOU CAN HAVE MY
LAWNMOWER'S ENGINE..
THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU AND
INCREASE IN HORSEPOWER
=Torque: 130 @ 4000rpm
=3 Speed Automatic, -THATS JUST SAD, OR AN OPTIONAL 5-SPEED MANUAL
=Curb Weight: 2617

alright. well then...for one, my cavalier is a 5-speed and i'd be more than happy to race you on an autocross course if you can even squeeze that n/a z32 through the turns. remember, anyone can drag race a 13-15 second car, but not everyone can turn it well.

and then some more gems from you.

1a-I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MONEY OR HOW MUCH I HAD

Sounds like The Green Eyed Monster rearing it ugly head in a fit of envy.....maybe because I have enough money to broaden my horizon other than the civic price range and try to pursue a REAL SPORTS CAR?!

maybe I did well in school and can now live a little more lavish than the average

you never said anything about money? but scroll up a little bit and i see TWO statements about how well off you supposedly are. there are probably more, but dont feel like looking.

and if you think oreopride is racist...you obviously aren't familiar with this little thing called sarcasm. read about it sometime.

this whole scenario keeps getting funnier and funnier simply because you know you're wrong, but you're just too stubborn to admit it. but that's ok. keep arguing, at least it's free entertainment.

oh and i have a question about your "stillen engine". namely, how did you get it when stillen doesn't even make an n/a engine for your car? as far as i know, all they sell is a remanufactured long block. and if you're going through all the trouble of buying a new engine...why not buy a turbo engine? but the real kicker is the j-spec interior parts. should those strike fear deep in the heart of your opponents?

Fenrir

11-02-2002, 07:04 AM

BTW....the stock 1/4 mile time of your car is 15.9. So Scott's Cavy might be able to beat you.....if it wasn't for the J-sepc tight dogz type R seats!

Mickee

11-02-2002, 09:14 AM

i think its time to raise the WHITE FLAG... you've been outnumbered by your opponents.... Oreo i think its safe to say to place SYlkk to the POSERS list?

Scott has you eating on his palms... and you're his lil bitch....

It's funny how you clown the "CIVIC RICERS" yet you have the crown je\/\/el of being a RICE... JDM INTERIOR..... the only thing your import doesn't have to be a complete RICE is VTEC

SCOTT OWNZ JOO!!!!!!

Sylkk KP

11-02-2002, 09:48 AM

OK I will breifly respond to all of you...damn the messages are getting longer and longer....Firstly oreo boy, if you can make a cavavlier fast you can make a zxN/a fast.... well faster...if you can make an econemy car like a civic fast then you certainly can make a prowler fast...you guys are RIGHT about the small aftermarket for the prowler...but thats why they have race shops...it will just cost a little more.......oh yeah no way ANY CAV can beat me

SCOTTY-IF MY CAR IS A 13-15 SEC CAR WHAT IS THE TIME OF YOUR LITTLE 120HP,SORORITY COLLEGE GIRL CAR? Next it MY ZX handles like its on rails, but I don't race on curves...just the quarter mile, Once again you don't have to be rich to own a N/a z32...just smart! Next the only reason the amount of money I have came into the message was you guys started steriotyping me by saying in order for me to be successful I had to be a rap star, so I corrected you...Next as for the prowler, explain to me how you guys live by the message that a 120 HORSE POWERED CIVIC CAN BE MADE FAST BUT A 2800 LB 253 HORSEPOWERED PROWLER CAN'T BE MADE FAST...MAKES SENSE, ABOUT THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO HANDE BECAUSE OF THEY ARE CONVERTIBLES WELL THATS WHY THEY MAKE ROLL BARS AND ROLL CAGES, I DON'T BELIVE OREO WAS BEING SARCASTIC, HE WAS BEING REAL SOMETHING NONE OF YOU ARE....SCOTTY I AM glad you are having fun...I am too, in seeing how far the low displacement car world will go to prove points even they don't believe. And who ever said that prowlers can't be found in manual well, they are RIGTH in the sense that they are extremely rare....but thats why you can do transmission conversions...my friend Shawn did one to his maxima....why didn't I buy a turbo engine simply put at the time I COULDN'T AFFORD ONE...NOW I CAN...SOME US OF ACTUALLY HAD TO WORK HARD FOR WHAT WE HAVE UNLIKE THE MAJORITY OF YALL...NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MY J-SPEC PARTS MAKING MY CAR ANY FASTER JUST TELLING THE BOARD WHAT I HAD IN MY RIDE...WHAT HORSES DOES YOUR CAR PUT OUT?
NOTHIN

aSiaNdoboI

11-02-2002, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
OK I will breifly respond to all of you...damn the messages are getting longer and longer....Firstly oreo boy, if you can make a cavavlier fast you can make a zxN/a fast.... well faster...if you can make an econemy car like a civic fast then you certainly can make a prowler fast...you guys are RIGHT about the small aftermarket for the prowler...but thats why they have race shops...it will just cost a little more.......oh yeah no way ANY CAV can beat me

SCOTTY-IF MY CAR IS A 13-15 SEC CAR WHAT IS THE TIME OF YOUR LITTLE 120HP,SORORITY COLLEGE GIRL CAR? Next it MY ZX handles like its on rails, but I don't race on curves...just the quarter mile, Once again you don't have to be rich to own a N/a z32...just smart! Next the only reason the amount of money I have came into the message was you guys started steriotyping me by saying in order for me to be successful I had to be a rap star, so I corrected you...Next as for the prowler, explain to me how you guys live by the message that a 120 HORSE POWERED CIVIC CAN BE MADE FAST BUT A 2800 LB 253 HORSEPOWERED PROWLER CAN'T BE MADE FAST...MAKES SENSE, ABOUT THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO HANDE BECAUSE OF THEY ARE CONVERTIBLES WELL THATS WHY THEY MAKE ROLL BARS AND ROLL CAGES, I DON'T BELIVE OREO WAS BEING SARCASTIC, HE WAS BEING REAL SOMETHING NONE OF YOU ARE....SCOTTY I AM glad you are having fun...I am too, in seeing how far the low displacement car world will go to prove points even they don't believe. And who ever said that prowlers can't be found in manual well, they are RIGTH in the sense that they are extremely rare....but thats why you can do transmission conversions...my friend Shawn did one to his maxima....why didn't I buy a turbo engine simply put at the time I COULDN'T AFFORD ONE...NOW I CAN...SOME US OF ACTUALLY HAD TO WORK HARD FOR WHAT WE HAVE UNLIKE THE MAJORITY OF YALL...NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MY J-SPEC PARTS MAKING MY CAR ANY FASTER JUST TELLING THE BOARD WHAT I HAD IN MY RIDE...WHAT HORSES DOES YOUR CAR PUT OUT?
NOTHIN

wow someone is getting touchy :haha:

Sylkk KP

11-02-2002, 10:05 AM

"i think its time to raise the WHITE FLAG... you've been outnumbered by your opponents.... Oreo i think its safe to say to place SYlkk to the POSERS list?

Scott has you eating on his palms... and you're his lil bitch....

It's funny how you clown the "CIVIC RICERS" yet you have the crown je\/\/el of being a RICE... JDM INTERIOR..... the only thing your import doesn't have to be a complete RICE is VTEC

SCOTT OWNZ JOO!!!!!!"

-And scotty says your not racist...but I have been stupid in thinking that I could come to an import site and clown your messiah of race cars the holy and ungodly"HONDA CIVIC" and still make some friends...
-POSER WHAT A CORNEY WORD, BUT PLACE ME IN WHAT EVER LIST BEING ME IS WHAT GOT ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CHOICE OF BUYING A CAR THAT HAS A RATING OTHER THAN A TEENAGE VALLEY GIRL CAR,IE YOU CELICAS AND CIVICS, ALSO YOUR CAVALIERS, SO WEATHER ITS A CORVETTE, A 300ZXTT, A PROWLER, A BMW M3, M5, M6 OR EVEN THE V-12 850, I STILL CAN GET A REAL SPORTS CAR...YOU IMPORT HEADS ARE IN A TRACE, HYPNOTISED BY THE HYPE OF THE F&F...I GOT JDM INTERIOR PARTS BECAUSE I NEED FLOOR MATS AND ECT BEFORE I CAN SELL IT, AND ADD THE MONEY TO MY PROWLER SAVINGS...WE CAN GO TIT 4 TAT ALL DAY BUT ALL IT BIOLS DOWN TO IS THAT I OWN A CAR CAPABLE OF SPEEDS A STOCK CAVALIER WILL NEVER SEE....

AS FAR AS ANY CONCERNSE TO SCOTT WELL ALL I CAN SAY IS YOU CAN LEAD A KACK ASS TO WATER BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT DRINK......HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL ABOUT THE M3...YOU MORE THAN LIKELY HATE THEM BECAUSE THEY AREN'T CIVICS....

Sylkk KP

11-02-2002, 10:18 AM

YOUR RIGHT ASIANDOBOL: PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM ARE GETTIN TOUCHY AND HOSTILE DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF HAVING AN OPINION, I THINK IT BECAUSE I HAVE A JUST ABOUT STOCK Z32NA WITH 230+ HORSES THAT CAN BEAT YOU AVERAGE MODDED CIVIC OR YOU HEAVILY MODDED CAVALIER..i mean come on what horses does a civic come stock with...

2000 Honda Civic EX 1990 nissan 300zxNA
2 Door Coupe 2 door coupe
2WD 1.6 L rear wheel drive 3.0l
Horsepower 127 horsepower 222( mine is 232)
-well at least it gets good gas milage

Sylkk KP

11-02-2002, 10:38 AM

You hate the imports it seems. But you DRIVE AN IMPORT (and not a very fast one at that) your import is actual slower than Red93's import. Than Ange5's import. Scottys domestic would tear you up (sounds like it would) My old MX-3 would have kept up with the 300ZX pretty easily. Actually, I raced one before in a streetrace and beat it. So, according to how your logic works MX3's are faster. ;-)

But really, that was my crowning moment

How can I hate imports when I am trying to buy an 850, m3 and I own a 300zx...my car also cost alot less than re93's ride..but he says he knows of a rx-7 thats is fats not that he owns one...! once again any tt car with 255 horses is slow to me, why not a 320 hp ttzx, or 320tt supra...I bet red93 has a 9-sec rx7 just like someone else....I think we all know his name..(VinDiesel)...I'm sure you mx-3 did beat a zx in a street race just like I used a 88 plymouth voyager to beat a 2000 diablo and a 2001 corvette(I smell your Bullshit) next your mx-3 comes with what

Mazda MX-3 GS
2 DoorCoupe
2Wd 1.8L
Highway Mileage 28 mpg Cargo Capacity 15.4 cu. ft.
Horsepower 130-yeah ok you car sucks...sorry no nicer why to put it...its not flashy,fast or classy...what do you drive now

Fenrir

11-02-2002, 10:45 AM

This is my last post because flame wars on message boards aren't fun (unless the idiot's blood is boiling :hi: )

For the record:
I'm half white/ half black. Hence, it was was funny to make you think I hate black people. Yea, I'm a member of the KKK. Did you even read the links to my website? :rolleyes:

Second:
I'm mocking you. I don't drive a Civic. When I was looking for cars I wanted an import that could hang with streetable 5.0s that was reasonably priced, well worked on, and had a decent aftermarket. The N/A 300ZX was on my list until I realized I'd be a dumb fuck to try to get one into the 12's. Hell, if Stillen can't then why should I try? So I payed $4500 for a 1992 TSI AWD. It does a 14.8 stock, has a great launch, and is greatly supported. To each is their own. Their is nothign wrong with owning a Civic, 5.0, DSM, or N/A300ZX. It's when ignorant little pricks think they are awesome and have a "fast" car then I have to say something. My car is a full second faster than you. And I consider it slow. I have a while a ways to go before I think I can say my car is "fast."

It's funny. You think I'm a caucasian Civic Owner :haha:
Visual: he has made the list.

Next as for the prowler, explain to me how you guys live by the message that a 120 HORSE POWERED CIVIC CAN BE MADE FAST BUT A 2800 LB 253 HORSEPOWERED PROWLER CAN'T BE MADE FAST...

Because of aftermarket. There is no point making go fast parts for a car market torwards 50 year old doctors that want to have a nice looking car. But the Civic? There are enough parts to make 12 second all motor Civics. Yea, it's tedious and expensive but still those "Civics" you crack on are running faster than the 300ZX that the God of Z32's could make. Just a thought.

And who ever said that prowlers can't be found in manual well, they are RIGTH in the sense that they are extremely rare....but thats why you can do transmission conversions...my friend Shawn did one to his maxima....why didn't I buy a turbo engine simply put at the time I COULDN'T AFFORD ONE...NOW I CAN...SOME US OF ACTUALLY HAD TO WORK HARD FOR WHAT WE HAVE UNLIKE THE MAJORITY OF YALL...NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MY J-SPEC PARTS MAKING MY CAR ANY FASTER JUST TELLING THE BOARD WHAT I HAD IN MY RIDE...WHAT HORSES DOES YOUR CAR PUT OUT?

There is an existing manual tranny for your friends Maxima. There are NONE for the prowler. NONE. Not any. There is nothing. Nothing will fit. Hey, do you guys here that manual Prowleer? Oh, you can't becasue there ISN'T one. I know this is a hard concept but just read this paragraph 10 times.

As for affording one I thought you were succesful? Buddy, I had the money for a N/A 300ZX and I'm faaaaar from succesful. I busted ass over the summer and did 44-53 hours a week at my job making $7.40 and hour. I own my car free and clear and I worked for it. You came on here and bragged about how you could make a Prowler fast with your money. Yet you couldn't get a good 300ZX TT for 13k? *tisk tisk* Oh, and my car puts out 212 torque (it's supposed to with free mods and the K+N :confused: ) And it pulls a 2.0 60 footer launch with my shitty driving skills; which will hopefully improve with the new non-slipping 2100 clutch. Scotss Cavy does 16.8 stock (am I right?) Oh, and there is enough aftermarket to get them in the 13's too. But, as he said, most people just autocross them.

As for the mats that is just useless bragging. "I GOT A JVC CD PLAYER!" It's not making you any faster and it's not giving much ethos to you being fast. Like I said, 13.2. And don't even think of trying to swap the turbo engine in. Everyone on Z32.com says it's stupid. You basically need the front clip and then some from the drivtrain running back (the LSD comes to mind)

-POSER WHAT A CORNEY WORD, BUT PLACE ME IN WHAT EVER LIST BEING ME IS WHAT GOT ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE CHOICE OF BUYING A CAR THAT HAS A RATING OTHER THAN A TEENAGE VALLEY GIRL CAR,IE YOU CELICAS AND CIVICS, ALSO YOUR CAVALIERS, SO WEATHER ITS A CORVETTE, A 300ZXTT, A PROWLER, A BMW M3, M5, M6 OR EVEN THE V-12 850, I STILL CAN GET A REAL SPORTS CAR...

you're not getting it. If you have a 300ZX 2+2 then you have a 15.9 1/4 mile car. Scotts Cavy isn't far off. Integra GSR's are faster stock. MX-6/Probe 2.5s have the exact same 1/4 mile time. Celica GTS are FASTER than your car stock. Civic Si's? They are rocking 15.8's (still faster) You are not the elite so quit acting like that.

WE CAN GO TIT 4 TAT ALL DAY BUT ALL IT BIOLS DOWN TO IS THAT I OWN A CAR CAPABLE OF SPEEDS A STOCK CAVALIER WILL NEVER SEE....

umm...so your modded 300ZX would be faster than a Stock Cavalier? No shit sherlock. BTW, I've heard of Cavy's getting in the low 14's and high 13's. And I bet it was a lot less costly than that world breaking/amazing 13.2 out of the Stillen N/A one.

I sound like a dickhead to slow cars but I really am not. I'm a slow car as far as I'm concerned. I just think it's stupid when people brag about how great their car is. Especially when about half the board members are faster than it If yo uhave a slow car then race that son of a bitch and be happy. I'll gladly talk cars with you. But I'm not going to sit by and watch a 15.9 1/4 mile car talk about being the greatest of the great and how he has mad money. Oh, and if you have a N/A Z32 2 seater then you are running that 15.5. That puts you in teh same class as a VTEC Del Sol. Yeppers.

Now if you don't mind Sylkk I have to go clean the intercooler of my turbocharged vehicle.

Fenrir

11-02-2002, 10:53 AM

Oh! You mother fucker! You didn't go there! :flip:

Mazda MX-3 GS
2 DoorCoupe
2Wd 1.8L
Highway Mileage 28 mpg Cargo Capacity 15.4 cu. ft.
Horsepower 130-yeah ok you car sucks...sorry no nicer why to put it...its not flashy,fast or classy...what do you drive now

Mine was the 1.6, thank you. It had all supporting upgraded for a VJ-14 turbo (which unfortanetly never got on) I upgraded to Protege injectors, a GTX FC Fuel Pump, PRM Intake, a full custom 2.5 in exhaust all the way back, changed the motor mounts, and switched shifter bushings. It ran a 10.2 in the 1.8th before I got rid of it. It was a bit of a ricer but I learned a lot from trying to do that custom turbo project. ANd the highway mileage was 36; perfect for my job which was 95 miles round trip everyday (you know, the one I did 6 days a week)

BTW, I took that 2 seater N/A 300ZX across town in a stupid (but I have to admit fun) across town 1AM race. I got him at THREE lights. I was talking about the incident to show that just becasue I beat a certain car doesn't make it it faster than that car. And the MX-3 was for autocrossing fun; it couldn't do much in a straight line but I can honestly say it turned on a dime better than my present AWD car.

Build a custom turbo project on your NA car then come back and talk with me.

Mickee

11-02-2002, 05:05 PM

Doesn't he know that FnF is hated on this board? Yet he uses Fnf like we approve of it... Funny how you talk shit to Civics and and Domestic Compact cars... I would jsut like to know where you are located from and i would gladly set you up with a couple of CIVICS that would embarass you... and more likely take you money if you want to place a lil wager.....

yeah yeah yeah i know it all comes down in wagering money... i know it sad ... it should all be fun....

Sylkk KP

11-02-2002, 05:06 PM

what the freak...you know what I acn't stand..this guy tells me that I am stupid for desiring any fast car because the max speed you can go on the highway is 70mph and that racing is stupid, maybe he should hopp off my d!ck and let me breath, its none of his bussiness

I'll come clean with the room firstly when I signed on to this post I did have a little grudge with the import crowd...you see the peeps where I live are, as you put it RICERS, yes I think this is the correct term....RICERS...I personally have nothing against any of you guys I guess misdirected anger...SO LETS PUT THE POINTLESS FIGHTING TO REST AND GET BACK TO WHAT WE ALL JOINED THIS SITE FOR....., SOMETHING NO OTHER SITE CAN OFFER US -CAR TALK...

OH YEAH PERSONALLY, DEEP DOWN INSIDE I LOVE IMPORT CARS AND I GENERALLY DISLIKE DOMESTICS.....BUT ANY CAR IS FUN AS LONG AS IT IS FAST

Sylkk KP

11-02-2002, 05:16 PM

ViSuAL_cHanGeS: WHATS REALLY GOOD WITH YOU LETS DEAD IT..PS THAT BROAD UNDER YOUR NAME, IS WHATS UP

I'M BOUT ENDING THIS WAR BUT IF YOU STILL WANNA FIGHT I'M BOUT IT BOUT IT

Mickee

11-02-2002, 05:25 PM

aint no fight.... i make friends not enemies... as you like to refer so much to FnF

"You think you can just jump into the ring and box?"

well just try not to be stubborn and narrow minded...

i hated domestic growing up.... then one day i had a chance to drive and speed on my friends 68 stang with a 351C... that fucker... had me grinning ....

as i always say dont knock it til u try it....

SRO is entertainment... not much to talk about cars anymore... there are some....

Time to go bowling... serve this bitches....

ooh i cant wait til the 8th.... Tila here i come.........(my avatar)

Scott

11-02-2002, 06:44 PM

you asked about an m3, then said we probably hate it. well if you go back a page, i said an m3 would be a much better choice than an 850. go back. read it. it's there.

and you never answered my question about how you got a stillen n/a 300z engine when they dont make one for the z32.

then you act like all we care about it low displacement cars. if i cared about drag racing, i would have gotten a big domestic v8 and started in the 13s. but i dont care about racing in a straight line, so i didn't need a big meaty v8.

punksev

11-02-2002, 07:45 PM

okay, everyone who loves the movie the fast and the furious rase your hand. now those with your hands rased please leave. now that the posers are gone lets settle this over a cup of tea.

Scott

11-02-2002, 08:50 PM

um...i think everyone here hates it. at least they should..

Soarer

11-02-2002, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
IF YOU STILL WANNA FIGHT I'M BOUT IT BOUT IT

:haha: :haha: :haha: thats pricless. reading someone actually write that and mean it is worth seeing twice :)

i dont have anything much to say because i feel it wont even help the situation any. besides, most of the arguements have pretty much said what i would have (basically disagreeing with mr. bout it bout it sylkk)

Mickee

11-02-2002, 11:26 PM

awww sucks rayn... i thought u would join the fun... im not the one to pick a fight... i just like to instigate... its so much fun....

I gotta give it up to the homie... scotty too hotty.. he is on fire... laying hte smacketh downeth on his candy ass.... heheheh
now i just hope sylkk dont comeback and say let scotts nutsack breath... im alrready knowing what he will say.....

oh well.... btw... I bowled a 133 as my best for hte night... hehe avg o 120.... we need a SRO bowl-a-thon

Scott

11-03-2002, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by ViSuAL_cHanGeS

I gotta give it up to the homie... scotty too hotty.. he is on fire... laying hte smacketh downeth on his candy ass.... heheheh
now i just hope sylkk dont comeback and say let scotts nutsack breath... im alrready knowing what he will say.....

:haha: hahahahaha i dunno why i cant stop laughing after reading this. good stuff man. :D

yeah i dont think sylkk has much left to say. :)

punksev

11-03-2002, 11:34 AM

so how's bout the cup of tea

Sylkk KP

11-03-2002, 04:13 PM

Ahhhhh..yall kats got jokes on my lingo? Its all good though...I figure that yall would rubb it in bout me producing a truce....but still..I now agree for 4o some thing thousand I should get something faster thata prowler...like maybe a corvettez06..or hell maybe I'll go and get a z32tt..that will be cheaper

blindarrow: bout it bout it is a down south phrase now...not west coast anymore...so no you wont here snoop sayin that too much...but its not an old phrase, Master p, Camron and the diplomats just put out a song called bout it bout it lll.....You bet I'm "Mr. bout it bout it "

Scotty:there's really not to much to say there is no sense in rehashing the past....you have you feeling and Sylkk well he has his...I wan't a car to be fast and flashy, not just one, even if I have to comprimise a little of one to have both. Mr. Bout it Bout it lives in the future...ya heard me..OK I'm out
-ONE-

Sylkk KP

11-03-2002, 04:25 PM

everytime I try to build my siteat(streetracings free site promotion) it messes up on me does any one know how to build these things:confused:

Fenrir

11-03-2002, 04:47 PM

I'm in the south. We don't say bout it bout it. :p

Mickee

11-03-2002, 05:41 PM

He must've thought that you guys are from westcoast since this is a Northern cali msg board... hahahah Bout it Bout it is a phrase made up by the No limit camp.. it is not widely used by the southern people...

Sylkk you listen to too much mainstream rap....

Btw anyone who knows rap... Bout it Bout it was never used by any rappers.... Snoop only used it cause he was in the No Limit camp and originated from Louisiana... so try again buddy....

West Coast use gangsta terms.... i dont want to put it all down because there are tons.. which also varies what aprt of the West..

Sylkk KP

11-06-2002, 08:05 AM

Visual changes: of course now every is from the south now that I made a statement and they feel they have to challenge me........"Btw anyone who knows rap... Bout it Bout it was never used by any rappers.... Snoop only used it cause he was in the No Limit camp and originated from Louisiana... so try again buddy....
"

guess you didn't hear me...master p, camron and the diplomats JUST put out a song called bout it bout it part lll...Camron isn't form down south...he's from harlem...I never said PEOPLE from down south used the term, I said it a southern term...because no limit created that term and they are from the South...Just like west coast is known for rockin khakies but then again so do golfers and causual dresses and bussinessmen

Visual ch-you say that no limit created the term but nobody uses the term.....well what about NO LIMIT....I've never heard snoop say bout it bout it....

West Coast use gangsta terms.... i dont want to put it all down because there are tons.. which also varies what aprt of the West..

Give me any example of a WEST COAST GANGSTA TERM....What you know bout gangsta???

Mickee

11-06-2002, 08:08 AM

heres one LOC.... if you can tell me what kind of gangsta that is ...

Fenrir

11-06-2002, 08:27 AM

Still, I'm in teh deep south. We have a street called Martin Luther King Road. Nobody says "bout it bout it."

BTW, I'll retract all the bad things I said about your VG30de no turbo car if you can provide me with a link that shows it can run faster than 12.1. I found an all motor Civic hatch that does that. :D

Mickee

11-06-2002, 08:31 AM

Oreo: did you find it at MMRUSA???

Sylkk KP

11-06-2002, 08:44 AM

I think I found another car I might want...but I'd better decide quick...I only have till about spring-lotus esprite v-8, a 240sx or a r32-I'm thinking the 240sx will be the nicest on my insurance, plus I can put a skyline engine in it...or even the infamous PROWLER

Sylkk KP

11-06-2002, 09:43 AM

quote" BTW, I'll retract all the bad things I said about your VG30de no turbo car if you can provide me with a link that shows it can run faster than 12.1. I found an all motor Civic hatch that does that."

what you found a civic that runs 12. whatever. I bet you also know of a 9 sec rx-7 riiiight??
So you want a cookie, a trophie...my argument was never that it was impossible for a civic to be fast...I just don't think its good judgement to try to make one fast.....

the idea of someone not liking your christ :bow: "the honda civic" must have really pissed you off, but you have to let it go..it over, the war is over, you failed, I realzed you still have open wounds but let it go..I think its safe to place you on the F&F follers list

If I don't get a new car I am gonna try and stuff q45 engine in my z32 for more power...I don't know if it will fit some body modds might be nessary

93 Infiniti Q45 4.5L
Hp 278 1998 Honda Civic DX
1.6L Hp 106

97 Infiniti Q45
4.1L Horsepower 266
City Mileage 18 mpg
Highway Mileage 24 mpg

I'm gonna try and go with the 97....more stock horses than the average car on the road, better on gas, non turbo and a honda killin platform

Mickee

11-06-2002, 10:26 AM

oh you mother fucker...... you done did it again.... yeah call me getting anal or wutever... but your an ignorant fool who talk from his ass.....

what does a modena run??? well fucker i bet this civic will shit on that race bred ferrari....

10 sec civic (http://racingflix.com/downloadvideo.asp?v=101)

i know i know .. i would rather have a modena than a lowly civic... but the again who wouldnt i dont care if it beat the shit out of it... it still a civic....

hahah good luck dropping a q45 motor on your Z... good luck finidng a mount...

BLAH BLA

11-06-2002, 10:55 AM

Damn! It is all about money. any car can be made into a 9second car. The question of whether you can is another story. If you have the funds anything is possible. A 10 second civic is cool, if that is what you want. Despite what all of the idiots will say it is not cheap to do, though. Yes there are probably easier ways to to go than build a civic. Regardless of what car you choose, going fast is expensive. Just because something can be done, does not that it is cost effective, or even a logical thing to do. I personally don't know why anyone would want to try to build a 3700lb Nissan Z, but whatever. Enough with the ferrari to civic comparisons, stop with endless stories of projects that do not get done. Lastly stop hating on cars that are out your price range. Some people like the fit and feel that can only be found in a higher line automobile.

"You can't make a pig(civic) into a thoroughbred(Ferrari), but you can make a very fast pig"

Fenrir

11-06-2002, 10:59 AM

*in the voice of a kid*

My engine is smaller than yours, but its faster :p

like I said, it doesnt matter what you are goign to get. One day I hope to have enough money together for a Lancer EVO anything *drools*

BTW, I have to use this again.
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/PDF-E/evo7.pdf

Your car with 1000's invested will run a 13/2. I don't think Civics are god. Im just saying yo uare cracking on a car wit ha lot more potential than your car.

Oh, and again, I dont drive a Civic. Go to www.dsmtuners.com or www.dsmtalk.com and crack on those rides. Hell, my free mods put me 1.7 seconds faster than you.

You couldnt afford a 300ZX TT but you have enough money for a R32? I hope to god you live in Austalia otherwise you are jsut full of more shit.

A Skyline engine in a 240SX? Good god. Will you desecrate all that is good and holy! I mean, yo ucna keep a great weight balance using a sr20det or a cadet but noooooooo...It has a Nissan badge so it MUST fit the rbdeTT!!!

Yea, he is going to be on the list for a while.

Mickee

11-06-2002, 11:00 AM

nice analogy.... i dont even know myself why im protecting civic...

there cars out there that can be faster than you... no one stays on top....

sylkk just like to argue more....

blah blah: where u from in socali?? care to come to a meet Nov 16

333racer

11-06-2002, 12:25 PM

well since you seem to be all hopped up on some kind of drugs Sylkk you think your NA ZX can kick ass cause it's a big ass jap car. i'll have a go at you. i have a 89 supra NA it's got the mods below, according to the stats and numbers i've been reading the MKIII should walk on you. and if my head is cracked like the mechaninc thinks it is give me a few months so i can drop a 1jz-gte in, then let's see who's gonna be king of the 6 cylinder imports. unless you can come out fighting with a ttZX or a 2jz-gte or an RB26dett then it's all over for you, btw the 1jz would be stock. i don't have much confidence in my supra, but i know that she's at least fast enough to shut you up.

Sylkk KP

11-06-2002, 12:50 PM

oK COOKIES BOY YOU CAN PUT A SKYLINE ENGINE A 240SX, DON'T BELIVE ME? i CALLED TWO PERFORMANCE SHOPS-THEY SAID FOR $6K THEY CAN DO THE Q45 278HP ENGINE SWAP FOR MY 300ZX....THE OTHER PLACE SAID THEY CAN PUT A SKYLINE ENGINE IN A 240SX BUT IT WOULD WEAR DOWN CERTAIN PARTS ON THE SUSPENSION AND IN THE ENGINE BAY

You couldnt afford a 300ZX TT but you have enough money for a R32? I hope to god you live in Austalia otherwise you are jsut full of more shit.

OK i SAID when i BOUGHT THE 300ZX ENGINE i COULDN'T AFFORD THE TURBO ENGINE NOW i CAN, IF I CHOOSE TO GET IT

I don't care about the civic aftermarket my car is faster stock and with $400 worht of modds

Yeah oreo boy your gonna be on the list for a while....

"You can't make a pig(civic) into a thoroughbred(300zx), but you can make a very fast pig" and the thouro be faster

333racer

11-06-2002, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by Sylkk KP
oK COOKIES BOY YOU CAN PUT A SKYLINE ENGINE A 240SX, DON'T BELIVE ME? i CALLED TWO PERFORMANCE SHOPS-THEY SAID FOR $6K THEY CAN DO THE Q45 278HP ENGINE SWAP FOR MY 300ZX....THE OTHER PLACE SAID THEY CAN PUT A SKYLINE ENGINE IN A 240SX BUT IT WOULD WEAR DOWN CERTAIN PARTS ON THE SUSPENSION AND IN THE ENGINE BAY

You couldnt afford a 300ZX TT but you have enough money for a R32? I hope to god you live in Austalia otherwise you are jsut full of more shit.

OK i SAID when i BOUGHT THE 300ZX ENGINE i COULDN'T AFFORD THE TURBO ENGINE NOW i CAN, IF I CHOOSE TO GET IT

I don't care about the civic aftermarket my car is faster stock and with $400 worht of modds

Yeah oreo boy your gonna be on the list for a while....

"You can't make a pig(civic) into a thoroughbred(300zx), but you can make a very fast pig" and the thouro be faster

LEARN HOW TO USE THE DAMN QUOTE BUTTON ya dumbshit.
i find it really funny how you keep picking on scott and oreo cause they have typically slower cars but what about 93R-1 his rex will eat you alive. you are the typical poser, you belong as the king of oreo's list. i just wish terrence or chris was here, they would rip you apart. also in your sig, displace,ent is measured in liters or CC's you dumbass not hp. another thing on displacement, a civic is a 1.8 L i think?? your zx is only 3L, you want real displacement go find a chevy 454 aren't those about 7.4 L you want more?? the hemi 509 even bigger. those engines darf yours, and almost any of the wonder cars you've been talking about. drop the act and leave in shame, you don't even desreve to drive anything more than a metro, hell you shouldn't even be allowed by a car. if you seem to have the money to buy a 25k BMW why not go ahead and buy the TT engine for you ZX, what's the matter you too stupid to do an engine swap??? and what you afraid to comment on my supra?? afraid the 300zx isn't the only 6 cylinder beast.???

Spiderman

11-06-2002, 01:57 PM

you can put any motor in any car sylkk, its just a matter of how much of a nimrod you are to do it. have fun blowing your piece of shit cars to pieces. make sure you post pics of them soon so that we may all laugh at your stupidity. go kill yourself. :)

_daniel

BLAH BLA

11-06-2002, 02:36 PM

If you you listen long enough, people will tell you how much they don't know. In this case you have to read it but it is the same thing. Why would anyone spend that much money to swap a motor and have 270 hp, whatever bro'. save your $6k sell the n/a 300ZX and find a turbo car. You could also try building something that is not so heavy, you are shooting yourself in the foot. Actually I heard that the hot ticket was too buy a 3.0 litre diesel block(japan only) punch it to 4.0 and start from there, as long as we are talking about "fantasy motor swaps and buildups". some of you guys get all excited at the mere mention of skyline anything. I thought you were a "big timer, baller and shot caller". Yeah,yeah,yeah enjoy your dreams.
Hey Changes, what do you have going on for 11-16-02, I think NHRA is at Pomona, and also AMA?Prostar has the bikes at Palmdale. What do you have going? I'm in Whittier area, definately interested so let me know what's up.
Lastly if you are going to use my quote, don't hack it up. You are not as funny or witty as you think.....

SilverJDM

11-06-2002, 03:44 PM

this thread is closed... goodnight!!:hi:

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