What's your guys view on Nitrous?

[2001 Accord V-6]

I've heard people on other boards call people who use nitrous cheater in races because the way it works. I say you have use what you need to win. Do you guys think using Nitrous is cheating?

[ghoust]

Hell no Nitrous is not cheating. Race what you brung. Nitrous is cheap, effective, and very addicting. If you are in the market for a NOS kit, I have one for sale, 350 bucks or best offer for 50 shot dry single fogger kit, everything included plus a nitrous pressure guage. Email me if you are interested.

[SSanjoseracer]

If its good enough for the NHRA its good enough for me.......

[JohnJohn152]

Originally posted by 2001 Accord V-6
I've heard people on other boards call people who use nitrous cheater in races because the way it works. I say you have use what you need to win. Do you guys think using Nitrous is cheating?

Nitrous isn't cheating.

[Nordin944]

I figure NOS is only cheating if you're a bitch and refuse to admit you have it........

[Tanker]

does not seem like it to me. If I could put it on my Beretta the thing would be faster then it alredy is.

Fire-In-The-Hole!

[LS/VTEC]

Fuck ya NOS is the shit even tho I'm kinda scared to get it. KABOOM!!!! There goes the LSVTEC...ha ha but for real NO ITS NOT CHEATING cuz I still smoke fools.....

[Thevettekiller]

The only people that say nitrous is cheating is the people that are on the recieving end of someone spanking them with a nitroused car.... When they HAVE nitrous it's a totally different story... It's the same way when someone comes to the street races with slicks. Everyone says that that is cheating. WHY???? Hmm let's see using Racing tires to Race.... That must be cheating.... ;)

not....

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by Thevettekiller
The only people that say nitrous is cheating is the people that are on the recieving end of someone spanking them with a nitroused car

I kinda think it is though. Think about it. If somebody in a blah-blahmobile, and they use NOS on a Mustang or Camaro and kill them. Now at the next light the bottle runs empty and Mr Mustang/Camaro wants a re-run, what do you do? bitch about having your bottle empty? You know you would get spanked off the bottle, but what do you do?

NOS is good for a little extra boost. But some people get way too dependant on it. That's why i like motor worth or blowers...you have the power there all the time.

Of course, i should be one to speak. I'm getting a 125 shot for my '93 in a month or so. Of course, when my bottle runs out, I can still smoke most cars easily.

That's how i judge a car with NOS....based on how it does off the bottle. A 16 sec off-the-NOS car that needs NOS to hit 14's doesn't rank that high on my wowwie factor

[SSanjoseracer]

Sometimes i dont get you....nO slow 50.....it aint cheating in any way shape or form..whatever you can do to make your car run faster is OK..i mean.. thats why they have different classes at the track...I was thinking about putting a blower on my car, but after some research actually found that nos is a little (not much ) but a little easier on my motor. My compression is 10.5-1 therefore the lifespan of the motor on a blower..wouldnt be too good.

[Dan]

Most nitrous motors are punks off the bottle. Just like blower cars are (ie 8 to one compression).

And to say that nitrous gives you a LITTLE EXTRA BOOST???

Dude. A 250 shot will blow the doors off of an S trim car.

Ive seen it time and time again.

Bottle gets empty......no big deal my man.....I mean what if your blower belt breaks?

[joeelutz]

Hey what does your LX run in the quarter? Just wondering...

[noslow5oh]

Woah, guys. I think I wrote that too quick and didn't explain it enough. i know NOS is used at the track for NHRA and all that stuff. But i'm not talking track use of NOS. I'm talking about my example that I gave. You get some guy in a stock car running a shot of NOS...now he talks trash that he can beat you on the bottle, but the minute it's empty he shuts up and complains he ran out of NOS. You wouldn't beleive how many times I have gotten the "Wasn't a fair race, my bottle was off/empty....so you didn't really beat me." That is my big beef with NOS. A modded car running a shot is no big deal, but the stockers running the big shots talking trash when the bottle is full and bitching when it runs out gets to me.

It may be unfair, but if you put 2 cars next to each other, and they run the exact same time in the 1/4 mile, but one is stock and on NOS and the other is built....some would give more credit to the NOS guy for doing more with less...but i give credit to the guy who truely built the car to run that fast. I'm sorry but that's how I am.

I even said in my frist post I'm getting NOS. just a small 125 shot or so...maybe a 75 shot. As for what my LX runs, i dunno yet..track has been closed. As soon as it opens, i'm getting times for all 3 cars. I'm ESTIMATING the LX can hit mid 11's...but that's just a rounded off figure. I have no idea really.

[joeelutz]

Mid 11's.....wow

[SSanjoseracer]

MID 11s? Are you in the Bay Area??

YOU WANNA RUN THAT SHIT??

Seriously if you are local..lets run somewhere....

[Dan]

I would have to say that with an E cam and GT-40 heads that unless you lost weight or can pull about a 1.60-1.5 60 foot mid 11s are not going to come for you.


SSanjoseracer

Are you going to be at the track on the 24th?

If my rotating assembly is back from CHP withing the next 1.5 weeks (cutting it close) I will see you there.

You can email me if you want the details on my car.

dstar8950@hotmail.com

It would be a very good run.

[Dan]

Set you up some races with some bonafide 11 second cars.

I usually dont do this and just keep my trap shut because they are not my cars, they are my buddies.

But I can hook it up.......long as you dont flake and give me some notice.

[noslow5oh]

No, i'm from Massachusetts.

I'm just estimating that based on what my friends with similar combinations have. I have talked to a guy with pretty much the exact same mods and he has gone 11.3 @ 11X with pretty much the same mods except he was on slicks. I have no idea If i'll run the same as i don't have slick..yet. For all i know i'll run a 12.1....and i don't want to look like a dick in front of you guys. In fact, forget I even said a time. I want to brag about the truth and no what I THINK my car would run. So i'm just gonna wait til I run the car to see what she does. When I do, i'll be sure to let everyone know.

I want to get the NOS put in before i head to the track. I am not even gonna speculate what that should get me going.

I am 100% sure the car is not in the 13's, and if it is running 12's it would be a low 12 like a 12.1 or so. I'm kinda hoping for a 11.6 or something when i hit the track. We will see

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by Dan
I would have to say that with an E cam and GT-40 heads that unless you lost weight or can pull about a 1.60-1.5 60 foot mid 11s are not going to come for you.



Well, the car is a notchback so that's going for it. With a good set of slicks , the 3.73's and maybe that Shot of NOS i might install within the month, i can have a good shot at it. It all depends though. There's only one way to truely know what the car runs...and april 1st I will know it.

[Dan]

Just that E cammed cars dont run as well as I would like to see them run thats all.

It takes ALOT of prep and since your car is a notchback then it is entirely possible with like I said a 1.5.-1.6 6 foot to pull down some decent times. Those heads are holding you back, as is that cam.

If you some how got the car down to about 2900lbs with you gas and EVERYTHING ...race weight you would need to make about 370 horsepower to run an 11.6 at about 117-118

So it is entirely possible just very hard to do.

[Dan]

I also dont see the car 60 footing very well with your suspension setup you listed in your profile.

If you want to "speculate" then your car could run in the 9s.

If you dont think so I can show you a coupe that runs 9s with a 3.27 gear a tremec GT-40 iron heads that are ported. GT-40 intake and a cogged S trim. Oh and a custom cam on a stock bottom end.

This car is very disputed but is well known as THE fastest GT-40 headed and stock bottom ended power adder car around.

It is the Precios car. Look on the Corral.

[st515O]

Hey Dan, I remember Nick Percies old car.... man that was bay back in the days on the corral message board when him and Bob Cosby always use to fight..... anyways the Percie's are known for gutting the crap out of their cars.

[SSanjoseracer]

Yeah I should be at the track on the 24th. I mean i plan on it, but I was supposed to be getting my new clutch in on Monday and now there has been a delay. SHITTY> Man as soon as that clutch goes back in though im back in action . At the same time as the clutch install will also be the 3:73 and carbon fiber drive shaft. but hell yeah im down to run some 11/12sec cars. Let me know..HAVE CAMARO WILL TRAVEL>..lol


WILL RACE FOR FOOD>....

And my all time personal fav..\

"You wanna run that shit?"

[Dan]

When you decide to run or have your car up and running I will give you the guys number. I rarely go out to the street races when I dont have a car to run. I hate spectating and adding to the drama.

But when you are ready I will drop the digits for you to hook up with some tight races.

These cars are no punks.

Last time I was supposed to hook some races up I went to sleep (work from 6am to 4pm) so this time I will just give you the dudes number directly.

Your shit should run 11s with enough spray on it and some tires since you ran a 13.0 on street tires.

If you want to race me you will have to wait for awhile cause I dont think the car will be running by the 24th but I will sure as hell try!!!!

[VortecZ28]

By saying Nitrous is cheating, you might as well say aftermarket heads are cheating as well, they both add power.
I don't run NOS, but i don't think its cheating. I would be pissed if someone beat me and all they have is NOS though

I respect a built car that runs fast on all motor way more than a car that simply runs nitrous and completely stock otherwise.

[mustang man]

I have never used NOS on the street. Mostly because its a waste around my area. My stang isnt extremely fast without the nitrous but, I can hold my own. Guess i never had a reason to use it. Noone around here plans a drag race at a certain place. The only way we get races around here is to cruise around and hope for the best. Anyway, if i did race someone and they juiced on me to win well, more power to them cause they beat me no matter if they used NOS or not. Heck no its not cheating

[2001 Accord V-6]

I see your point Vortec. I would be pissed off too if say a IS 300 beat me because all they had was Nitrous (BTW, I beat one on the street to the highway-Not worth 32K IMO). If I ever get nitrous, I probably wouldn't get it until I upgrade the pulleys and the header to the car. Should be able to to run 14.5-14.9 just with the pulleys and header and Nitrous. That's fast enough for me, especially since my Auto can't take too much of a HP boost. Besides, I'm too inexperienced to be running 13's and 12's.

[Thevettekiller]

In response to what someone said about "well what happens if your bottle runs out" Well I've got this response.. If you go to the streetraces and you're not prepared with at least a totally full bottle and sometimes even a spare (believe me the last time I went to the streetraces I had TWO full bottles) then you deserve to get beat.... If your car is a nitrous car it's nobody's fault but your own if your bottle runs out... I don't need excuses and "my bottle ran out so that's why you beat me" isn't one I intend to use... All you need to do is be prepared. I have respect for both types of people meaning the ones who build their motors up and run fast and two the ones who use nitrous to it's fullest advantage... Using nitrous isn't just bolt it on and go like NOS will have you think. It takes a lot of tuning, plug selection, reading your plugs to determine if you're running lean or rich, dyno tuning/testing, etc.... NOS says a 150 shot will give you roughly 1 full second and 10 mph.... That's what I got when I first installed the system and got it working correctly. Well now through different driving/squeezing techniques, dyno testing, using different jetting combo's, and ultimately a good engine tune I'm picking up 1.5-1.7 seconds and about 15 mph with what is essentially about a 160 shot... As with any other power adder there is always room for improvement and that's the secret to it.... It's not just "I'll just up the jets and I'll run xx.xx at xxx.xx mph.."

But to repeat what I said about coming to the races with half a bottle, would you have sex with a hooker with half a condom?????

[Niño]

Originally posted by Thevettekiller
But to repeat what I said about coming to the races with half a bottle, would you have sex with a hooker with half a condom?????

Hahahhaa, funny ...

[jexser]

SWEET:D

[noslow5oh]

Originally posted by Dan
If you want to "speculate" then your car could run in the 9s.


I knew i was gonna get questioned on this one when i answered that post. I have no clue what it runs, that was just an estimation. Ya know i didn't even think about the suspension robbing from my 60-footers until you mentioned it.

I'm just gonna let this topic die then until i really hit the track in April/May and get some real legit numbers.

I might even have a 75 or 125 shot on the car too by then....so who knows...

[Rotary2Rotary]

its an up grade just like a turbo, bottle runs out turbo goes out, u win some you loose some if u happen to loose on an empty bottle o well u loose, and its not cheating, its an illegal sport so all mods are fair, personally id use, im gonnna untill my car dies, i think its olny ok if you let the other person know your using it, insted of being its all motor metro that runs 12's, thats not asking for any flames im kind of hyper and mad tonight, just my oppinion

[XtraFastCRX]

Where's SvP on this subject?????!!!

[Dan]

Is their word the final word?

LOL

Super tuners?

[RS/377]

Should I carry around a list of my mods around on business cards to let people know exactly what I'm running?

Yeah, I'll let people know. They'll find out when I purge at the starting line