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650TACO

09-25-2002, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by ShadyMilkman
What a fucking stupid idea.

For those of us who were there, lets think back to when the Lightning debuted and the arguments that followed... the verdict, that fast trucks are about as worthy/ smart/ practical/ useful/ *insert any adjective* as an Ab Energizer and worth about the same amount. :flip:

You can make anything go fast... but that doesn't mean its a good idea, espically for a road going vechicle. :rolleyes:

What the fuck is wrong w/ fast trucks?? Trucks are cool, look good, and if they go fast it makes them even better. So what if they can't handle like a pretty boy BMW?? Some people want something that is fast, but can also tow or haul when needed. Trucks have a different attitude and style then cars, which some people prefer. A fast truck is alot more "useful" than say, a Camaro. Camaros have tiny backseats, tiny trunks, and can't tow shit.....yes they are cool but all they are good for is racing or driving w/ maybe 1 other person. How useful is that?? Bitch. :flip:

-Paul

ShadyMilkman

09-25-2002, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by 650TACO
What the fuck is wrong w/ fast trucks?? Trucks are cool, look good, and if they go fast it makes them even better. So what if they can't handle like a pretty boy BMW?? Some people want something that is fast, but can also tow or haul when needed. Trucks have a different attitude and style then cars, which some people prefer. A fast truck is alot more "useful" than say, a Camaro. Camaros have tiny backseats, tiny trunks, and can't tow shit.....yes they are cool but all they are good for is racing or driving w/ maybe 1 other person. How useful is that?? Bitch. :flip:

-Paul

You're completely right. Some people do want a fast truck. That is their opionion and they have the right to make the decision to get one if they so desire. I'm not here to argue opinion's because it's a waste of time...

...i don't really give a shit if you think you're cool going fast in a truck. hey, if that's the way you like it, fine. All i'm saying is, if you plan on buying that truck because you want to race it, than you're doing it because your opinion dictates that trucks are cool rather than whats really the best option for the situation. If you want to race, you buy something designed for racing. A truck is not designed for racing, nor is it really designed to go fast. That is not their purpose. Their purpose like you stated earlier, is to haul and tow things. A car such as a camaro or an RX-7 has a different purpose. Its purpose is to go fast and to race. Hauling things or people is not a Camaro's primary purpose, that is a truck's job, or a minivan's for that matter. You don't buy a lawnmower to cut your hair do you? So why would you buy a truck to race with?

hekabeka

09-25-2002, 05:14 PM

So why would you buy a truck to race with?

maybe they want to race other trucks? and if he has the kind of money to blow on it, let him. When buying a car what do people look at? I know what I look for,-- speed, amenities, style, and options for modifications. Therefore, I would most likly get a fast goodlooking truck. Such as...drumroll please........the Dodge Ram SRT 10!

What a fucking stupid idea.

oh but wait, the you said....

That is their opionion and they have the right to make the decision to get one if they so desire. I'm not here to argue opinion's because it's a waste of time...

But I'm going to leave you alone now cuz what you said before is right....people are entitled to they're opinions...

ShadyMilkman

09-25-2002, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by hekabeka

But I'm going to leave you alone now cuz what you said before is right....people are entitled to they're opinions...

Exactly. :D

650TACO

09-25-2002, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by ShadyMilkman
You're completely right. Some people do want a fast truck. That is their opionion and they have the right to make the decision to get one if they so desire. I'm not here to argue opinion's because it's a waste of time...

...i don't really give a shit if you think you're cool going fast in a truck. hey, if that's the way you like it, fine. All i'm saying is, if you plan on buying that truck because you want to race it, than you're doing it because your opinion dictates that trucks are cool rather than whats really the best option for the situation. If you want to race, you buy something designed for racing. A truck is not designed for racing, nor is it really designed to go fast. That is not their purpose. Their purpose like you stated earlier, is to haul and tow things. A car such as a camaro or an RX-7 has a different purpose. Its purpose is to go fast and to race. Hauling things or people is not a Camaro's primary purpose, that is a truck's job, or a minivan's for that matter. You don't buy a lawnmower to cut your hair do you? So why would you buy a truck to race with?

Damn, that was too calm of a response, I was hoping to piss you off!! :D Its all good

-Paul

StickyFinga

09-25-2002, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by oricix
hmm...ok...well then...i see your point...if its not meant to go fast...why make it fast at all....ok...i geuss you civic drivers...take off all of your mods....u too lightnings..off the roads! u too Vipers...since ure not meant for racing...no racing for you....well I geuss the only cars worth gettin to go fast would be a McLaren...and S7's huh....ya..lemme know when u get one...id like to see it bahaha

Cdawg

If a Viper isn't meant for racing what is it meant for?

Wolf

09-26-2002, 12:55 AM

The new Rams are ugly as sin. I'd get a Lightning any day over a new Ram. IIRC, I think the SRT-10 wasn't a LOT quicker in the 1/4 than a Lightning. You gotta remember that the truck weighs a ton.

ShadyMilkman

09-26-2002, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by 650TACO
Damn, that was too calm of a response, I was hoping to piss you off!! :D Its all good

-Paul

LOL, i was close to throwing down, but it woulda been purely my irrelevent views on fast trucks and i stopped myself. Sorry to dissappoint ya, We can get into it if ya want. :p

oricix

09-26-2002, 06:18 AM

sorry hommie..but the new dodge ram truck was MEANT for speed...show me another STOCK truck that can go as fast and handle as well....and id be suprised if not shocked...go ahead..I dare ya :-D sorry man..but a truck that can knock down a super sport camaro STOCk..is pretty amayzing to me..only a handful of cars that can do that now.....

PS..viper was meant for cornering..not racing

Cdawg

TheHayvn

09-26-2002, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by oricix
sorry hommie..but the new dodge ram truck was MEANT for speed...show me another STOCK truck that can go as fast and handle as well....and id be suprised if not shocked...go ahead..I dare ya :-D sorry man..but a truck that can knock down a super sport camaro STOCk..is pretty amayzing to me..only a handful of cars that can do that now.....

Lightning, Syclone, Typhoon.

PS..viper was meant for cornering..not racing

Uh, I'm not even going to touch that one. It's a little too easy.

oricix

09-26-2002, 08:49 AM

actually..the lightning is a mid 13 second car...camaro SS is slightly faster...and viper was not meant to race..sorry hommie...do you see them on nascar? NHRA? doubt it...more of a autocross car...yes its fast...but for pure drag...nope

Cdawg

oricix

09-26-2002, 09:51 AM

hmm..and to my suprise.....hennessy is gonna modify their turbos...to fit into a SRT-10...can u say 880hp truck :-p 2.4 second 0-60 9.9 1/4 hmm...it does weigh in at a hefty 2 tons though, so I figure a little slower heh

Cdawg

Fast2Seater

09-26-2002, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by oricix
actually..the lightning is a mid 13 second car...camaro SS is slightly faster...and viper was not meant to race..sorry hommie...do you see them on nascar? NHRA? doubt it...more of a autocross car...yes its fast...but for pure drag...nope

Cdawg

So you are saying stuff like the 24 hours of Le Mans isn't a race? What about the numerous GT championship circuits around the globe that the Viper competes in, those aren't races either?

See Vipers in NASCAR? No I see tauruses, monte carlos, and intrepids, obvious race car material there :rolleyes:

Onto the subject at hand....fast trucks. Ok, so owning something like a Lightning, or an SRT-10 could be cool, because they are indeed fast. The problem is though, as Import Hater tried to point out a long time ago, is that to make these trucks fast they lose most of their utility. This $60,000 Ram that you want can't tow or haul the amount that a base model can. If I were to buy a truck, I wouldn't want to pay a shitload of extra money to lose utility, that doesn't make sense to me. If the whole point of buying a truck is to tow and haul, why would you want a truck that can't tow and haul? You lose the original intention of the vehicle, just so you can almost keep up with cars that cost half as much.

TheHayvn

09-26-2002, 11:37 AM

Fast2Seater said what I was going to about racing. The Intrepid wasn't meant to race either, yet it's in Nascar. The Civic wasn't meant to race yet it's in NIRA. The Viper *was* meant to race and it does a fine job at it too.

Originally posted by oricix
hmm..and to my suprise.....hennessy is gonna modify their turbos...to fit into a SRT-10...can u say 880hp truck :-p 2.4 second 0-60 9.9 1/4 hmm...it does weigh in at a hefty 2 tons though, so I figure a little slower heh

Yes, and Hennessey Viper engines also break down like crazy. How many people have sued John Hennessey for his shitty worksmanship?

Yes, slapping his work on a $60k truck sounds like a great plan! :rolleyes:

Twit.

oricix

09-26-2002, 01:44 PM

*sighs* some people....i swear....ok...so then people who buy a civic...and mod it up and turbo charge it....sure they lose there econimicalness (spelling+is that even a word?) but people do it because they want to....heh...ya viper in the La Mans is pretty darned good...but that one is highly modded, just like any car there..hell its almost not even a viper anymore....entire frame is different....oh and spending 40k on the truck which is its due price....is worth alot more than spending 50k on a corvette which is slower....heh....u go ahead and do what u want..fact of the matter is...i want to buy the truck...you trick yourself into believing its not worth it. i geuss ill see you on the street eh....and as I said before....the Viper is not meant for drag....dont get me wrong...I love the Vipers...too small for my liking though...id like to be in a truck much more....and who says you cant tow? toss a hitch on there and it can tow just fine....500 lbs of torque will make sure of that...honestly....the Ram is gonna get its respect...oh well..everyone has their own opinion...just some are more educated than others heh

Cdawg

Draven

09-26-2002, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by oricix
..gonna decimate all..

Cdawg
Where have I heard that before?:rolleyes:

oricix

09-26-2002, 01:56 PM

so what r u saying Draven...its gonna be slow?

Draven

09-26-2002, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by oricix
so what r u saying Draven...its gonna be slow?

0-60 mph 5.0 sec.
0-80 mph 9.0 sec.
Standing 1/4 mile 12.9 sec. @106 mph
0-100-0 mph 18 sec.
Lateral acceleration 0.92 g
Slalom 69 mph

No, I think it's going to be quite fast.

TheHayvn

09-26-2002, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by oricix
ya viper in the La Mans is pretty darned good...but that one is highly modded, just like any car there..hell its almost not even a viper anymore....
It is still very much a Viper. Racing against modified Porsches, Corvettes and Panoz's. Why don't you see Dodge Rams going up against C5Rs if they're such good race vehicles? Oh that's right, because they suck.

oh and spending 40k on the truck which is its due price....is worth alot more than spending 50k on a corvette which is slower
If you think that SRT-10 Ram could keep up with a Z06 in anyway, you're on crack. Even the Cobra Mustang would make a joke out of your "super" truck.

i geuss ill see you on the street eh

Oh no! I'll be watching out for you.

just some are more educated than others heh

How right you are.

If you could ever muster the miniscule amount of brain power to learn how to spell, I'd almost be vaguely worried for the safety of the bank employees as they fall to the floor laughing at your dumb ass for wanting a loan from them.

oricix

09-26-2002, 02:24 PM

heh..why id geuss by ure lack of intellect..ure no more than 21 years old...heh...and yes...the truck is a damn good truck...only thing is their NOT OUT YET DUMB SHIT!! they come out next year..gee that might be why we dont see them around..hmm..maybe im wrong though...bahaha...and no..I dont need a loan....or hopefully not by the time they are out...haha..dumb shit

Cdawg

TheHayvn

09-26-2002, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by oricix
heh..why id geuss by ure lack of intellect..ure no more than 21 years old

only thing is their NOT OUT YET DUMB SHIT!!

id?
ure?
geuss?
ure?
And you don't know the difference between "there," "their," and "they're."

And yet, I'm the dumb shit?

Keep working for those little gold stars on your assignments and one day you'll be my hero.

oricix

09-26-2002, 02:37 PM

sorry hun, my internet slang has caught up with me....here...lemme make this more your style

please refrain from anymore useless comments about the 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 as it is my perogative to purchase it, and not yours. It will truly be a spectical of brilliance and authority as it cruises the street knowing it can dominate just about any other vehicle out there. As your comments are irrelivent and wasteful, and are aimed to do nothing more than irritate me, simply because you believe a race truck is a waste. Your opinion is your opinion, we are all entitled to it, thats what makes America so great. Oh wait, you live in Canada, bahahahaha, you better hurry back and go flip the burgers, or else that french fry promotion will be out the window if your manager catches you :-p

Cdawg

oricix

09-26-2002, 02:49 PM

well its really not meant to tow...but im sure it can....and not many things can tow 5 tons man...u would almost need a duely for that

Cdawg

PS...its a PERFORMANCE TRUCK!!!

TheHayvn

09-26-2002, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by oricix
please refrain from anymore useless comments about the 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 as it is my perogative to purchase it, and not yours. It will truly be a spectical of brilliance and authority as it cruises the street knowing it can dominate just about any other vehicle out there. As your comments are irrelivent and wasteful, and are aimed to do nothing more than irritate me, simply because you believe a race truck is a waste. Your opinion is your opinion, we are all entitled to it, thats what makes America so great. Oh wait, you live in Canada, bahahahaha, you better hurry back and go flip the burgers, or else that french fry promotion will be out the window if your manager catches you :-p

Don't try and sound intelligent; especially when you still can't spell worth a damn.

"perogative," "spectical," "irrelivent?" :haha:

Please, if you're going to remotely try and cogitate up an insult, don't do it sounding like a 6-year old, you nitwit. If you can't take the time to type it correctly; or at the very least, get your mommy to look over it while you try and act all hardcore; then don't bother wasting my 10 seconds to read it.

oricix

09-26-2002, 02:57 PM

sorry hun..some of us WORK for a living....i dont have that kinda time to sit around and proof read my posting..so why r u harrassing anyway...hmm..I never attacked you? just one of those people I geuss

Cdawg

TheHayvn

09-26-2002, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by oricix
sorry hun..some of us WORK for a living....i dont have that kinda time to sit around and proof read my posting.. so why r u harrassing anyway...hmm..I never attacked you? just one of those people I geuss

Yes, and it's 7:00pm here. Guess who's done work for the day?
Oh that's right, me.
Where could you possibly work when you can't spell the word "guess?" Oh wait, you're American, just about anywhere!

I love you.
:love

oricix

09-26-2002, 03:02 PM

fortunatly im in an occupation where I dont have to spell all that great heh...System Administration babe..thats where the money is...no business can survive without us admins

Cdawg

PS. im proud to be an American

BobVila

09-26-2002, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by TheHayvn
Oh wait, you're American, just about anywhere!

I'm going to have to call a low blow on you for that statement. You don't see other members here making fun of people because of their origin, let's not start that here.

While I'm posting here I might as well post my opinion. :P

A truck can tow and haul stuff. That can not, therefore I shall not recognise that as a truck. And for 60k$ I would buy and mod a z06 since it too can not haul or tow stuff. It's your money but I would advise you to research the vehicle, your other options, and to also wait atleast one year after its release so all the bugs can be worked out.

oricix

09-26-2002, 03:22 PM

welp, it will be at least a year before its out anyway so I have about a year to save for it..and it retails for 40-45k....so..im almost there, i might wait...i might not, im really in no rush...all in time...hey...maybe ill win the Lotto..i better check my tickets for saturday :-p

Cdawg

StickyFinga

09-26-2002, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by oricix
*sighs* some people....i swear....ok...so then people who buy a civic...and mod it up and turbo charge it....sure they lose there econimicalness (spelling+is that even a word?) but people do it because they want to....heh...ya viper in the La Mans is pretty darned good...but that one is highly modded, just like any car there..hell its almost not even a viper anymore....entire frame is different....oh and spending 40k on the truck which is its due price....is worth alot more than spending 50k on a corvette which is slower....heh....u go ahead and do what u want..fact of the matter is...i want to buy the truck...you trick yourself into believing its not worth it. i geuss ill see you on the street eh....and as I said before....the Viper is not meant for drag....dont get me wrong...I love the Vipers...too small for my liking though...id like to be in a truck much more....and who says you cant tow? toss a hitch on there and it can tow just fine....500 lbs of torque will make sure of that...honestly....the Ram is gonna get its respect...oh well..everyone has their own opinion...just some are more educated than others heh

Cdawg

I'll race any one of those trucks in my "slower" Corvette anyday and win in any kind of race you wanna put out there.

TheHayvn

09-26-2002, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by BobVila
I'm going to have to call a low blow on you for that statement. You don't see other members here making fun of people because of their origin, let's not start that here.
Originally posted by oricix
Oh wait, you live in Canada, bahahahaha, you better hurry back and go flip the burgers, or else that french fry promotion will be out the window if your manager catches you

And I pity the company who has you as an admin. I "geuss" they couldn't find anyone else.

oricix

09-26-2002, 03:35 PM

look at this chic...hating...aiight..im out for the night....later

Cdawg

BobVila

09-26-2002, 03:40 PM

Sorry I didn't see that because I tend to read the first line of a post and if its flames and other pointless bullshit I dont read the rest.

650TACO

09-26-2002, 03:56 PM

Shit, it's like a little war on this thread :bam: Just let the guy get his Ram. He likes it, I think it's sweet, and lots of other people do too. Just because it's not a CAR, so what, some people would rather have a fast truck than a fast car. The world is full of fast cars, so I think fast trucks are nice to see here and there. Hell, at the track you see hot rodded 12 second station wagons and Pintos, so whats so stupid about a 12 second truck?? Yes it weighs alot, no it can't corner like a Vette, but it's fast, attractive, and he likes it. Damn, lighten up people

:rolleyes:

-Paul

ShadyMilkman

09-26-2002, 05:17 PM

Now you see? This is why i just stopped, because shit like this happens... but if you're gonna throw down you need to at least be right and you need to defend those who are right, so Hayvn, lemme back ya up on this:

Originally posted by oricix
sorry hun, my internet slang has caught up with me....here...lemme make this more your style

please refrain from anymore useless comments about the 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 as it is my perogative to purchase it, and not yours. It will truly be a spectical of brilliance and authority as it cruises the street knowing it can dominate just about any other vehicle out there. As your comments are irrelivent and wasteful, and are aimed to do nothing more than irritate me, simply because you believe a race truck is a waste. Your opinion is your opinion, we are all entitled to it, thats what makes America so great. Oh wait, you live in Canada, bahahahaha, you better hurry back and go flip the burgers, or else that french fry promotion will be out the window if your manager catches you :-p

First off, don't try to come back from talking like a midwestern redneck with throwing all the big words you know into some random rant, it doesn't suit you. stick to what you know. I was trying to stay far far away from this but since you just kept pushing forward i need to step in.

First off: A viper is a race car, no way around it. It was designed to race and race it does. A LeMan's GTS Viper is still a viper, modified yes, but still a viper.... Its as much of a viper as a Hennessey *sp Venom 800 is a Viper or a Hennessey modded SRT-10 would be an SRT-10.

A Fifty thousand dollar Z06 would whip the shit out of a 50k SRT-10. The dodge wouldn't even come close, in any way shape or form. What you've seemed to have forgotten is that there is more to a fast/good car than numbers. Watch your elusive SRT-10 go around a hairpin at 60mph... it won't be too pretty.

How is your opinion in any way shape or form educated? everything you've said has been opinion, there is no factual backing to support anything you're saying.

wait...

"Oh, the SRT-10 with Hennessey mod's will go this fast and it weighs this much and blah blah blah... who cares?" If Hennessey made a mod for a lawnmower it would probably have the same numbers, that doesn't mean you'd want to drive it down the street.

BTW, how is an autocross not a race and a drag is?
...i'm not even going to get started on that one.

Now, you're talking shit about how you're going to buy one cause you have some kickass system admin job? Gimme a fucking break. Please don't think the title of System Admin. will command any sort of respect your way. Anyone with a family computer in their home can call themselves a system admin. Judging by how you're talking and how you're not making any real legit comments but just talking shit about the fact that she's from Canada (which has absolutely no relevence) just show's you're not mature enough to be making serious money anyway. So don't act like it.

oricix

09-27-2002, 07:59 AM

cmon now, if Id of wanted a fast car....id would buy a piece of crap honda civic hatchback..and mod the shit outta it for less than I would spend total on the truck...I would rather have the truck...in my opinion its better.....it can corner pretty well too.... .92 on the skipad...so its not all that bad..and yes....it is superior to alot of cars... oh well..my money..my choice :-D

ShadyMilkman

09-27-2002, 10:39 AM

A skidpad doesn't accurately represent how well a car can handle. Its only the inital force the tires can take until they give, but it says nothing of balance and counter balance forces as well as driving predictibility nad responsiveness.

BTW, honda's aren't fast. :p

MistaFosta

09-27-2002, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by oricix
cmon now, if Id of wanted a fast car....id would buy a piece of crap honda civic hatchback..and mod the shit outta it for less than I would spend total on the truck...I would rather have the truck...in my opinion its better.....it can corner pretty well too.... .92 on the skipad...so its not all that bad..and yes....it is superior to alot of cars... oh well..my money..my choice :-D

Yah, whoa. Gotta agree with Shady... Honda HB would not be the way to go.

:D :D

oricix

09-27-2002, 11:10 AM

it was only a example heh...ive seen honda hatches take it down into the low 10's before....but like I said..only an example :-p

Cdawg

650TACO

09-27-2002, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by TheHayvn

If you think that SRT-10 Ram could keep up with a Z06 in anyway, you're on crack. Even the Cobra Mustang would make a joke out of your "super" truck.

On a STRAIGHT track, the SRT-10 could very much keep up w/ a Z06. Sure it would lose, but it wouldn't exactly get blown away. I also disagree the Cobra would make a joke out of the SRT....it would be a close race depending on the drivers. Why doesn't the SRT qualify as a super truck?? I think any truck that runs a high 12 quarter mile can qualify as a "super truck." Yes I agree the starting price is very high, but don't hate on it just because it's a truck. It will be sweet seeing some of these things on the road. Corvettes are sweet as hell, but I see them everyday.

-Paul

oricix

09-27-2002, 12:07 PM

thats true taco man.....it does run 12.9 in the quarter....it truly will be a supertruck! granted....there are cars than can take it....but it will truly be a breakthrough in performance.

Cdawg

TheHayvn

09-27-2002, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by 650TACO
On a STRAIGHT track, the SRT-10 could very much keep up w/ a Z06. Sure it would lose, but it wouldn't exactly get blown away.
http://www.geocities.com/z06_racer/040702.htm
Stock Z06.
Link came from Z06Vette.com with a database of numbers just like that.
That's a full second quicker. That's not just blown away, that's a slaughter.

I also disagree the Cobra would make a joke out of the SRT....it would be a close race depending on the drivers.
MM&FF Aug 02 got a stock Cobra to go 12.7, they pulled the intake system and got another 13rwhp, that's another .1 right there. The 12.9 on the truck is just as estimate, it's not even out yet. Needing 500hp to hit 12s is almost as bad as a Supra.

Corvettes are sweet as hell, but I see them everyday.

And I see Dodge Rams everyday.

650TACO

09-27-2002, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by TheHayvn
http://www.geocities.com/z06_racer/040702.htm
Stock Z06.
Link came from Z06Vette.com with a database of numbers just like that.
That's a full second quicker. That's not just blown away, that's a slaughter.

MM&FF Aug 02 got a stock Cobra to go 12.7, they pulled the intake system and got another 13rwhp, that's another .1 right there. The 12.9 on the truck is just as estimate, it's not even out yet. Needing 500hp to hit 12s is almost as bad as a Supra.

And I see Dodge Rams everyday.

I can't even read those timeslips, too blurry. BUT, from the several sites I've gone to to check 02' Z06 times, all of them put their quarter mile times in the mid 12's. Not much faster than the SRT. And the Cobra you sited didn't run a 12.7 stock. Like you said, they pulled the intake system, but they also mustve run that car on slicks. And yeah, I see Ram's everyday too, but they don't have Viper engines under the hood.

-Paul

TheHayvn

09-27-2002, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by 650TACO
And the Cobra you sited didn't run a 12.7 stock.

Actually yeah, they ran it completely stock on the tires it came with too.

Here, you can read yourself. (http://darkenedfalls.wicca.nu/DSCF0007.JPG)

650TACO

09-27-2002, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by TheHayvn
Actually yeah, they ran it completely stock on the tires it came with too.

Here, you can read yourself. (http://darkenedfalls.wicca.nu/DSCF0007.JPG)

My bad, I completely forgot the new Cobras have the 390hp engines. I keep thinkin they built them w/ the old 320 or whatever it was. Ok, I believe u now :D

-Paul

TheHayvn

09-27-2002, 04:29 PM

It's 380+rwhp too, so you can imagine how far off that 390-flywheel is.

MistaFosta

09-27-2002, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Import Hater
Sure you do. They say Ram2500 or Ram3500 on the side. They're not lowered as to actually hndle some payload. It's the 8.0L V10, except it has an iron block.

Rob

Not to be an ass, but the 8 liter truck blocks actually have very little to no relation to the Viper blocks. Different ports, cooling ect ect, or at least thats what I heard from a die-hard 2500 owner..

But you are correct about actually towing a payload, that guy was towing a BIG ass boat.

oricix

09-28-2002, 12:44 AM

sure..the truck may be a full second slower....but cmon...it weighs twice as much....and 12.9 is damn good for a truck...I just love the looks of it too....lowered..huge stock rims...sweet lookin dual exhaust

Cdawg

PS..not to mention it packs some serious heat

StickyFinga

09-28-2002, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by oricix
sure..the truck may be a full second slower....but cmon...it weighs twice as much....and 12.9 is damn good for a truck...I just love the looks of it too....lowered..huge stock rims...sweet lookin dual exhaust

Cdawg

PS..not to mention it packs some serious heat

Nobody said it doesn't look good, or that it isn't a fast truck. It is a fast truck, there is no denying that. It's just gonna have trouble keeping up with sports cars because it is, like you said, a truck. I truly believe in a capatalistic society, and I applaud you for spending your money the way you see fit, the only problem I have had with any of this whole thread is the fact you are trying to take on "super cars" with a "super truck" when in reality these are two different classes of vehicles, and really can't be compared.

TheHayvn

09-28-2002, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by oricix
PS..not to mention it packs some serious heat

12.9 is serious heat?
And with the aerodynamics of a brick, it sure would have to use all of it's "muscle" just to keep going on the highway.

500hp is lots, but not when it has to move so much damn metal.

oricix

09-28-2002, 05:29 PM

soo....whats your point there Havyn? are you trying to say its a piece of crap....simply becausse you dont like it..doesnt mean anything to me....I happen to like trucks...and fast one happens to peak my attention

Cdawg

12.9 is some heat....for a truck

TheHayvn

09-28-2002, 07:32 PM

Don't go using "...for a truck" as an excuse. Stand by your truck man, don't go making excuses for it being slow compared to other vehicles.
I'm sorry to hear that you think 12.9 is fast and that your new favourite obsession is some overpriced barge of a vehicle.

My point is you're trying to make it sound like that 500hp is actually moving this thing quickly. When in fact, F-bodies have over 150 less ponies and torque and move quicker.

Would you be impressed with a 1000hp vehicle that ran a 12.5 just because it had a 1000hp?

650TACO

09-28-2002, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by TheHayvn
Would you be impressed with a 1000hp vehicle that ran a 12.5 just because it had a 1000hp?

If it was like a UPS truck or something, I would :hi:

-Paul

oricix

09-28-2002, 11:37 PM

im with you floatinchair..i prefer a truck...not my fault if some people hate it...well...to me 12.9seconds is fast....im not sure about you and others...but a stock 12 second truck is damn fast

Cdawg

ShadyMilkman

09-29-2002, 12:48 AM

Originally posted by floatinchair
shadymilkman you are a moron. maybe some ppl want the best of both worlds. the practicality of a truck an still enough speed to beat your little bitch ass bimmer drivers. then again some ppl just like trucks better. you ever think of that

Oooooh... now its on.

First off, if you would have had the attention span or the intellectual capacity to read through all my posts the first thing you'd see is the last line of your startment, almost word for word.

Second, the best of both worlds aye? Well, i'm sorry your ignorant ass hasn't been blessed enough to have had the privilege of sitting in a BMW because it would really shut you up pretty quickly. I can't think of a car company that would hold true to that statement any more. Hmm... lets think... the best of both worlds... well... performance is clearly one of those worlds... and well...ok let me put this in terms you would understand: A Bimmer would turn your bitch ass of a truck over on its stomach and rape it so hard that you'd be cryin for a week. Now, lets take the second world. Now this is where it gets interesting because some people, like you, prefer that ability to haul shit and feel big at the same time over lets say luxury or comfort. Now me personally, i'd take a car that has 16-way, full leather seats and will still smoke your ass in any way, at any time. You on the other hand might prefer hauling because it would more easily accomidate your back country agricultural lifestyle; me, i'm the kinda guy that would prefer to drive through the city with a beautiful, intelligent girl on my right, who is sitting in an orgasmically comfortable leather seat, who isn't even noticing that she's going 155 with the top down because the car was engineered to actually go that fast...

But hey, thats just my little bitch ass... :flip:

PharmCowboy

09-29-2002, 06:42 AM

god you guys are being a bunch of ass holes to each other...

oricix

09-29-2002, 08:43 AM

thats fine if you prefer a bimmer there shadymilkman...some of us prefer trucks...such as I....my mother owns a seven series bimmer....its REALLY nice...but I just couldnt picture myself owning and riding around in one....I would much more prefer a truck....simply preference...both are nice

Cdawg

StickyFinga

09-29-2002, 06:44 PM

I changed out the exhaust because that is what The Los Angeles Performance Division suggested that I do. It supposedly gives me more hp than the stock set-up and the noise is a bit better in my opinion. To tell you the truth, the exhaust noise inside the Vette is pretty loud at most RPMs and I haven't noticed much of a whistle...I will try and look for it next time, but if there is one, it's pretty slight I'm guessing. It's aight for not believing though, the car IS damned expensive.

ShadyMilkman

09-29-2002, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by floatinchair
oh it's on now? hahaha gimme a break. first of all i have sat in a bimmer. couple actually. big deal. second. my hot little country girl would kick your preppy little city bitch up an down the street an look good doin it. just because your such a soft little preppy bitch you have to have "16 way" leather seating just so you can contour ass cheeks to the chair. third of all personally i would much rather have a 500hp dodge TRUCK that would run circles around a 2002 M3 which only runs a 13.3 at 106. gimme a break. here's the link puss. check it out. http://dev.roadandtrack.com/reviews/roadtests/ArticleDisplay.asp?ArticleID=141&page=3 :flip: :flip: :flip:

That was a really intelligent comeback... Seriously, that part about the "soft little preppy bitch," man you had me in tears, for a moment I wanted to cancel my SRO account and just sit in my room and cry... :rolleyes: Give me a fucking break, how old are you? I refrained from getting involved with this thread early on for a reason, i was just sharing my opinion, than you have to come on acting all hard and like you know something. Well at least my attempt to communicate on a level that you would understand actually worked...

Anyway... do you want to know where my opinion of fast trucks originated from? Yes, my opinion is not unfounded. It derives from experience rather than what i think would be true...

I was in the 528 going through the mountains at a normal speed. Suddenly a Lightning comes all up on my ass. Now there's no question a Lightning is faster, but thats not the point. So, the street opens up into two lanes for a bit and the Lightning jumps over and starts to pass. Now, i'm not going to be able to get in front of him but i still wanted to see what it had, so i gave chase. When the street closed back into one lane i was behind doing about 75 headed toward a gradual left. We both take the turn than slow to about 50 for the next right, we go into the turn and he's started to understeer toward the cliff. The turn was mild so he managed to get control. At this point i'm starting to doubt the supposive supertruck because i took that turn with little difficultly; not screeching the tires, let alone understeer. Now we continue on through the mild S turns and his torque starts to become apparent as he begins to put distance between us. But than comes the hard left. I brake late to regain the lost distance and as i start the turn, i can see i still have plenty of room to push my car if need be. The Lightning was a different story. He took the turn in a rather conservative way. He broke early and even ran the apex line, but that still didn't help. Again he started to understeer, he regained control as he hit the dirt on the outer corner; his front wheels went through with traction, but as his back tires hit it, it was over. At this point i had already slowed to put as much room between him and i as possible. He started on this crazy fishtale; swerving back and forth about three or four times until he finally regained control. He was lucky, if he would have been going faster, he probably would have gone off the cliff. Needless to say, he went the proper speed limit until his turn, than slowly made his signaled right turn.

Now I don't give a shit if you think you're a baller because you're in a truck, like i've said maybe four times now, that's your opinion, do what you like. But don't come on saying that your modded utility truck will whip the shit out of my racebred Bimmer, espically if you have nothing more than numbers to back it up. I'm not here to argue times; a tractor running 10's would whip the shit out of any street legal car on the road. That doesn't make the tractor better than lets say a McLaren F1; Nor does that make a truck better than a car. Like many people have said many times before: cars and trucks are made to do different things. Do u peel potatoes with a cheese grater? no. than why do u race with a truck?

650TACO

09-29-2002, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by ShadyMilkman
i'm the kinda guy that would prefer to drive through the city with a beautiful, intelligent girl on my right, who is sitting in an orgasmically comfortable leather seat, who isn't even noticing that she's going 155 with the top down because the car was engineered to actually go that fast...

But hey, thats just my little bitch ass... :flip:

U are driving 155mph through a city? What city? :haha: This thread should have died a year ago. Most of you like fast cars. Some of us like fast trucks. Sure *most* trucks are heavier and take more hp to go fast......who cares?? To me, watching a truck run a 13 is alot more entertaining and cool than seeing yet another Mustang or Camaro (yawn) run that same time. If the world was all cars it would be boring. Its cool seeing fast Suv's and trucks, because YES, they weren't meant to go fast. If a manufacturer builds a sleek truck w/ gobs of hp under the hood, its cool. Sure 500hp is alot of hp just to run around a 13 in the quarter mile, but shit, its not a fucking car!!!!! This thread is really pissing me off :mad: :mad:

-Paul

ShadyMilkman

09-29-2002, 11:34 PM

BTW floatinchair you should be banned for that signature you racist, redneck mother fucker.

SilverJDM

09-29-2002, 11:45 PM

whats up everyone.... well i thought about closing this thread but instead i decided to banned and delete floatinchair's posts.... so i hope everyone is ok with this decision, so have a good time and i hope i helped by banning him and leaving this thread open

bye everyone

Silver JDM

ShadyMilkman

09-30-2002, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by 650TACO
U are driving 155mph through a city? What city? :haha: This thread should have died a year ago. Most of you like fast cars. Some of us like fast trucks. Sure *most* trucks are heavier and take more hp to go fast......who cares?? To me, watching a truck run a 13 is alot more entertaining and cool than seeing yet another Mustang or Camaro (yawn) run that same time. If the world was all cars it would be boring. Its cool seeing fast Suv's and trucks, because YES, they weren't meant to go fast. If a manufacturer builds a sleek truck w/ gobs of hp under the hood, its cool. Sure 500hp is alot of hp just to run around a 13 in the quarter mile, but shit, its not a fucking car!!!!! This thread is really pissing me off :mad: :mad:

-Paul

Hehehe, well, lets end this. I never wanted it to get this far, i don't think anyone did. Its such a useless argument.

Paul I thank you for interjecting your opinion rather than simply talking shit. With that said, lets just finish this by saying that this is all opinion, it always was, it always will be. Sorry its pissing ya off. :)

BTW, thanks Silver.

floatinbass

09-30-2002, 08:51 AM

why are you so ingorant to the fact that the truck is in fact faster than the majority of BMW's. are you just in denial. it looks like that was my opinion an FACT which is the biggest an only true argument. we aren't in europe on the the autobon or however you spell it. the fact stands. the 500hp dodge is faster than the majority of BMW's

ShadyMilkman

09-30-2002, 11:01 AM

How am I in denial? When did i ever say that all Bimmer's are faster than the dodge? I referred to the fact that the vast majority will probably handle better...

What does being on the Autobahn have to do with anything?

650TACO

09-30-2002, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by ShadyMilkman
Hehehe, well, lets end this. I never wanted it to get this far, i don't think anyone did. Its such a useless argument.

Paul I thank you for interjecting your opinion rather than simply talking shit. With that said, lets just finish this by saying that this is all opinion, it always was, it always will be. Sorry its pissing ya off. :)

BTW, thanks Silver.

:D

-Paul

StickyFinga

09-30-2002, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by floatinbass
why are you so ingorant to the fact that the truck is in fact faster than the majority of BMW's. are you just in denial. it looks like that was my opinion an FACT which is the biggest an only true argument. we aren't in europe on the the autobon or however you spell it. the fact stands. the 500hp dodge is faster than the majority of BMW's

Dude...yer car may be able to beat alot of stock BMWs in a 1/4 mile. But like Milkman said, his opinion of "super" trucks isn't because he thinks they are slow, it's because they can't handle worth a crap. Hell, you can say something is faster than something else all you want, but there is more than 1 type of race...a Ford Fiesta would beat a top fuel dragster on a course with turns, and yet the dragster is alot faster in the 1/4 mile.

Like everyone has said though, this whole thing is a matter of OPINION. You like trucks, by all means spend your money on the truck, thats the beauty of America, noone is telling you what you have to buy.

Like I said before though, quit tryin to convince everyone reading this thread that the damn truck is the best thing to ever be built, cause no one is gonna believe you, and more importantly no one is going to care.

AmericanMade

09-30-2002, 03:45 PM

sounds like a pretty sick ass truck. how much are those things goin for? personally i'd rather have the truck over a bimmer any day. but thats just my opinion. don't hang me now. haha. ~AmericanMade

Wolf

10-01-2002, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by oricix
well its really not meant to tow...but im sure it can....and not many things can tow 5 tons man...u would almost need a duely for that

Really? That's strange, because the 03 Ford Expedition >>SUV<< has an 8900lb tow rating. It doesn't need 500ft/lbs either.

As for saying the Viper is an "autocross" car, I'm going to guess that you assume drag, NASCAR, and autocross are the only forms of racing. Ever heard of GT racing? Nelson Ledges? Le Mans? I'd imagine the Viper wouldn't do too well in autox due to it's size. Just like a Supra, it's a touring car, designed for road racing.
http://www.gtracing.net/gtracing2/index.html

Oh look, here's a Viper. Gee, where are the cones to mark out the course? Oh gosh, it's not autocross.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid34/pf25da47054945b50eb88b8adc2747507/fd36dc60.jpg

Wolf

10-01-2002, 04:33 AM

There are better ways to get a fast truck that retains it's tow capacity. On Trucks! this weekend, there was a 2001 Silverado custom. 3/4 ton HD chassis, with a 496 BB crate engine. The owner called it the Silverado SS 496, playing off the old Chevelle theme.

oricix

10-01-2002, 07:48 AM

like ive said before...the Viper wasnt meant for pure drag....which you are simply backing up my statement...and the Viper is no Supra dude...far superior to the Supra in just about every aspect....handling, acceleration, pure horsepower and torque....cmon no comparison. you make it sound like I hate on the Vipers, your all wrong....I love em...wish I had one right now....but obviously thats not gonna happen anytime soon seeing as how im only 20 and work as a system admin...but sooon :-p :headbange and why not start off with a Dodge Ram SRT-10 truck...that almost has the feel of a Viper..and im not gonna buy it to tow anything...if I wanted a tow capable truck...id get a Ram 3500 or some tow capable truck....its purely performance...PERFORMANCE!!

Cdawg

Scott

10-01-2002, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by oricix
and why not start off with a Dodge Ram SRT-10 truck...that almost has the feel of a Viper

have you driven the truck? have you driven a viper? if not yes to both, then how do you know it has the same feel.

oh and by the way pat, i autocross with a viper and he regularly hands many many cars their asses on a platter. but even the owner says it wouldnt really be interesting until he got it on a bigger course.

StickyFinga

10-01-2002, 10:34 AM

Other than the 500hp I seriously doubt the truck feels ANYTHING like a Viper.

Hell, I didn't think it could happen, but this thread has actually made me support the Viper...Oh well, stranger things have happened, I actually considered buying a Ford the other day! :D

oricix

10-01-2002, 01:21 PM

naw..id never buy a USED Viper...if I ever get one..its gonna be a brand NEW one....ooh ya....besides..I like the trucks..why are you hating on me? i doubt it feels like a Viper besides the implantation on the seat it will leave you with....im sure handling is far worse than a Viper...after all...aint no other American car better than the Viper....but I want the truck....I dont want to be crouched down in a small sports car...granted the car is freakin gorgeous...but id rather have the truck...much more suits my preference

Cdawg

TheHayvn

10-01-2002, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by oricix
aint no other American car better than the Viper

lol
Here's a couple:

http://www.corvettemuseum.com/images/2002/z06-slant-prev.jpg

http://www.hoveymotorcars.com/Panoz/images/bwpic1.jpeg

http://www.mtv411.com/auto/Saleen-S7.jpg

StickyFinga

10-01-2002, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by oricix
naw..id never buy a USED Viper...if I ever get one..its gonna be a brand NEW one....ooh ya....besides..I like the trucks..why are you hating on me? i doubt it feels like a Viper besides the implantation on the seat it will leave you with....im sure handling is far worse than a Viper...after all...aint no other American car better than the Viper....but I want the truck....I dont want to be crouched down in a small sports car...granted the car is freakin gorgeous...but id rather have the truck...much more suits my preference

Cdawg

Who is hating on you? I told you to buy the damn truck if you want to, it's your money, no one cares how you spend it, but please quit making stupid comparisons.

ShadyDave

10-02-2002, 07:48 AM

Backing up a bit and interjecting my comments, it's been quite a while since I've seen a Panoz...

I haven't seen the figures on them in a long while, but I didn't think an Esperante could really hang with a Viper in the top speed and brute force acceleration departments...I know the Panoz is limited to 155 MPH...the quarter mile might have been close, but I know that the Viper will eat the Panoz alive until 90 MPH or so...

TheHayvn

10-02-2002, 07:58 AM

Performance-wise, no the Panoz isn't with a Viper.
It's only got an N/A Cobra engine in it.
But it's certainly nicer than the Viper, and as far as build quality, craftsmenship and resell value, it's better.

A Porsche 911 Carrera could get beaten by a C5, but the Porsche is still arguably the better car.

ShadyDave

10-02-2002, 07:59 AM

Certainly true, I don't dispute any of that...but I made the wrong assumption as to "better." :)

oricix

10-02-2002, 09:02 AM

well, those other top 2 are only opinions..the numbers are quit superior for the Viper...the Saleen S7 though, that is a better car yes..but more than triple the price, and cmon, im not gonna be getting one of those anytime soon heh....its all in preference though, to me the Viper is the GOD of all cars...granted there are cars faster than it...but I just like it...its easily moddible....fast in stock form...and very good at handling...just an all around sweet as car....

Cdawg

StickyFinga

10-02-2002, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by oricix
well, those other top 2 are only opinions..the numbers are quit superior for the Viper...the Saleen S7 though, that is a better car yes..but more than triple the price, and cmon, im not gonna be getting one of those anytime soon heh....its all in preference though, to me the Viper is the GOD of all cars...granted there are cars faster than it...but I just like it...its easily moddible....fast in stock form...and very good at handling...just an all around sweet as car....

Cdawg

Why don't you actually back up your statements with these "numbers" that you seem to get?

And as of easy modibility, the aftermarket on a Viper is not NEAR as big as that of a Mustang or even a Corvette for that matter, which makes it alot harder to mod than either of those cars.

Oh well, just like everything else, it's your opinion.