pissed and in need of help.....

[Sniper]

don't laugh....but i never change my own oil....i'd rather pay an extra two bucks and let someone else get messy.....plus it's not really feasible living in a dorm room......anyway, it appears that the last time i got it changed(late april) the jackoffs who did it crossthreaded the drainplug...so now it won't come off......yes i've tried it myself...won't budge.....anyway, everyone's telling me that i'm just scrwed and am going to have to get a new pan.....so does anyone have any ideas on how to get this thing out......

and before anyone asks..yes i'm really pushing it with the miles......i've spent the last thousand trying to find one of those places that sucks the oil out through the dipstick, to no avail.....what i have done is replace the filter and top off the remaing oil, in hopes of atleast slowing the damage.....

[Sniper]

that's pretty much what i've been doing....but everyone says they can't get it off and don't want to "damage" the pan...like it isn't already....i've had a few people suggest drilling a new hole and then tapping it for the new plug.....but it seems too thin to tap....any thoughts on that one?.....

[feulish]

have you gone back to the place that did the last oil change on it and bitched at them about it, do that and you'll get some kind of response, better than not asking, unless you've already done that, and explain to them that you never change your oil and the place you took it to said they didn't want to take out the drain plug because they were afraid to, and ask them what thier going to do about it they may buy you a new pan, if you still have the receipt, if not stiil give it a shot, especially if your in their computer.

if that doesn't work best bet would be to get a new or used pan, but if your low budget you can try drilling a hole in the old drain plug then threading a new bolt through it and just use the new bolt as the drain plug. they did this on a few of the stationary shop engines at my school. but you may get some metal shavings inside the pan so it would be better to drop it, and if your goin to drop it you'd be better off doing like PC said, drop the pan drill a new hole and weld a nut on the inside and use a bolt with a plastic washer, or you could try it from the outside(with the pan still on) and weld the nut on the outside but it would have to be welded all the way around the nut, but then you run into that metal shaving problem again.

[Sniper]

yeah, i've been back to the place a couple times......they 'say' they can't find my car in their records although they do have my truck.......interesting eh?......last time as soon as i walked in the guy at the counter went in the office and wouldn't come out......i'm debating about parking right in front of the bays so no one can get out next time......

[ivanthieme]

simple, get one of your friend on a nice suit, go back there and tell them he's your lawyer... than get your friend talk alot of BS :smokin:
They will shit on their paints pretty fast and get the work done :haha: (it actually worked for me once)

[tFUnK]

Originally posted by ivanthieme
simple, get one of your friend on a nice suit, go back there and tell them he's your lawyer... than get your friend talk alot of BS :smokin:
They will shit on their paints pretty fast and get the work done :haha: (it actually worked for me once)

good idea :)

[LilBoiBlu]

Hey, i was reading the Griots Garage catalog at some shop and they have a siphon like the one your talking about and it sucks out the oil through the dipstick hole, try looking there, but its pretty expensive i think.

[Matt]

First off...try to find a reciept, secondly report that shit to the automotive better business beurou(sp), third: make them pay for a new pan. Dont' let companies screw you over, that shit pisses me off because i've had it done to me many times. It's stupid...if you know how to talk then you can push them around...not them pushing you around.

[Chris]

Yeah if they fucked it up, they pay. Why are you even tripping? take the car back, tell them to fix it.

[hybridemo]

same thing happened to me, i took it back to the place that did it. they yanked out the old plug and put in a rubber seal and gave me a new plug.

note, they dont work all that great and sometimes leak a bit but it will get you by until you can buy a new pan...

[Longroof]

Originally posted by Chris
Yeah if they fucked it up, they pay. Why are you even tripping? take the car back, tell them to fix it.

Agreed, dont let the shop fuck you over. If you need a new pan because of their mistake, they pay. Simple as that. If they cant find any record of you being there with your car dig up your old reciept they cant deny that.

[firefly1_0]

if you can pulll the pan good,

don't worry about stripping the threds they can be fixed, heres how
http://www.helicoils.com/
GET A "HELI-COIL" kit for the same thread(pitch & size)(i asume that its metric) as you have on the plug now(the dealer can tell you that). drill out the stripped hole and tap it with the 'Heli- Coil' tap, and install the 'Heli-coil' wash the pan and your good to go.

heli coils are a thread repair that we use at the engine rebuilding shop that i work in. heads, blocks, cranks and really any hole that needs to be fixed. and don't worry, they are stronger than the original threads.

[fast928]

If you're going to drill through the existing bolt, you stand an excellent chance of getting chips into the oil pan. These can wreak havoc with your engine. I wouldn't do it for this reason alone. If you do this, vaccuum the chips as they come off and use a very sharp (new) bit.

I'd weld a nut onto the bolt, but make sure you have lots of oil in the pan. In this case you should be able to weld with impunity. The oil will keep the pan from heating up. You shouldn't get any heat warpage. Just get everything clean before you weld.

I'd TIG weld it. With oil in the pan, it's going to take a lot of heat.

PC - am I missing something?

[Civic_Sleeper]

All this work may not be worth it...it may be cheaper to have the pan replaced. You can buy a performance pan at the same time & you will be replacing the oil pan gasket(maintance you will eventually doing anyway).depending on how difficult it is to remove the pan it could cost up to $400(in the case of a '99 Eclipse).

If you want to venture this project yourself...remove oil from pan through the dip stick, drill the bolt as close to the threads as possible and re-tap the hole(take your time and remove all shavings).

C_S