Bay Area drifting?

[LxRacer127]

Well there lots lots of street racing..Now does anyone have and good ideas for lots and lots of drifting?

[JoeyGST]

I have a friend who was the king of drifting. Back in
high school, we'd go to the school parking lot at night and
do donuts, drifts, etc. Everyone would be amazed by his
skill, he got pretty damn good at doing stuff like that :)
He even did it up in the hills, on twisty roads. Scare the
shit outta people, but it was so fun. He did that until
he spun out and flew off the side of the road into a ditch,
nearly hitting a tree :D

The best tho, was when he went to a newly paved church
parking lot during the day, when it was wet. He was just
continuously circling around the center divide, doing
drifts. It was fun, we made a lot of noise and got the
hell outta dodge before the cops came ;)

These days tho, I dunno anyone who still likes to do that
kinda stuff. Donuts, drifting, E-brake turns, etc.
Everyone just goes out to the street races now. :(

[ghoust]

I know man wheres the love

[Jay]

E-mail me and Ill tell you whats up..but not on this bord

[chingoner]

yeah jay will set you straight. you can go to the velicity boards to contact other drifters and the club4ag boards.

[Imperfect]

Woo! Drifting! Sounds like fun.. hehe :D

[FIRMRacing]

Hey has anyone seen that green 240sx drift. I drift anywhere and everywhere. Along tasmin there is a massive parking lot thats all empty and usually there are cones set up. Its for police training. When the cops are gone you an go there and its like your own personal autocross track.

Another fun thing is to go to the great mall after it has rained. Right infront of dave and busters when the lot is empty in the morning or night. Try going 50 mph on a rwd car and then turn and gun it. Or doing 65 in a strait line and turn the wheel and pull the ebrake. Fun shit.

Oh when it is wet take a RWD car to the same place and basically turn the wheeel one way and hold it and just gun the gas. Car will start spinning everywhere.

Drifting can be hella fun just be careful on public streets. If a cop ever sees you thats a wreckless driving ticket which is 4 points on your record.

[LxRacer127]

I like drifting..sucks thats icould only do it on rainy days.(If my car was a stick). I tried doin some in devry
buyt i jus can't get it right....

[Mystik]

thats the great thing about minnesota: snow drifting!! so much fun in an AWD car... so much control... its also fun in the rain :)

[FIRMRacing]

I thought you could only drift in a RWD car?

[scourge]

Originally posted by FIRMRacing
I thought you could only drift in a RWD car?

True. You can only drift in a RWD car. You can mimic drifting in a FWD car, but you are not drifting. Some claim they can but they don't know what they are talking about. They need to look up definitions before they start talking!

Scourge:(
Dare to be different!

[Mystik]

scourge... wheres that leave me? :)

[scourge]

Originally posted by Mystik
scourge... wheres that leave me? :)

AWD cars don't drift. They take corners with the greatest of ease!:)

Scourge:(
Dare to be different!

[Mystik]

lol

[patezem]

hi all, im from Adelaide Australia the home of Australian drifting.

We have the only drifting club in australia and the only performance shop that specialises in drifting parts for cars. We also held the countries first drifting competition. For mpgs and pics of some nutty aussies drifting go to http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au

[scourge]

Originally posted by patezem
hi all, im from Adelaide Australia the home of Australian drifting.

For mpgs and pics of some nutty aussies drifting go to http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au

Um, do you own this shop or work there? If so, do you sell to the USA? If so, you can sell the hell out of your engines in non-Communist states like California! Check this out fellas:


SUBARU

EJ20T Liberty RS Turbo 220ps
ENGINE ONLY $995
ENGINE/GBOX/ELECTRICS $1650

EJ20T WRX 260ps
ENGINE ONLY $1995
ENGINE/GBOX/ELECTRICS $2650


Now that translates into:
EJ20T Liberty RS Turbo 220ps
$523.36
$867.89

and

EJ20T WRX 260ps
$1,049.37
$1,393.90


If they do fellas, mind you the exchange rate works in our favor! Whatever price is listed in AUD, it will be less in USA. Also, IIRC, we do not pay some of the taxes that Aussie citizens have to pay!:D:D:D Now, we do have to pay shipping, but big deal! $1500 for a WRX engine, tranny, and computer!!!! Can you say, "Hook a brutha up!"

Scourge:(
Dare to Be different!

[patezem]

Sorry i dont work there but im very good friends with a guy that does. The guy that works there is actually selling his series 4 rx7 for $20000AUS if anyone is interested, it is one serious car, purpose built for drifting it is damn quick last time he ran it down the quarter he ran an 11.2 without second gear. I really dont think that they sell motors directly to the USA but you could always give them an email and ask them.

The aussie dollar is pretty crap at the moment so any price you see there is about double what you would pay for it e.g: $1.00US = $0.52 AUS.

I hope this shows how big streetracing is in Australia, i get a lot of crap served at me on the net by people saying that australians dont know a thing about racing. Id be willing to bet everything i have that the racing scene in australia is bigger than pretty much anywhere else. There is nothing else to do "literally".

[Jay]

man oh well but hey if anyone wants to BS about drifting E-mail me rickey_racer@hotmail.com

peace out

[98rt]

Originally posted by scourge


True. You can only drift in a RWD car. You can mimic drifting in a FWD car, but you are not drifting. Some claim they can but they don't know what they are talking about. They need to look up definitions before they start talking!


Just Curious what exactly you think the Definition of drifting is? I would love to be enlightened.

[scourge]

Originally posted by 98rt
Just Curious what exactly you think the Definition of drifting is? I would love to be enlightened.

Webster's Dictionary:drift; 1. a driving. 2. a being driven along, as by a current of water. 3. the course on which something is directed....

RWD cars drift because they are deing driven (ie, pushed along) by their rear wheels. FWD and AWD cars can mimic the motion of a RWD car drifting, but they are not being driven along (FWD is pulling, and AWD has all the wheels moving the car). Its more a matter of semantics than anything.

Scourge:(
Dare to be different!

[FIRMRacing]

Yeah thats right if you have a FWD you cant drift. You can do a ebrake U or something a mimic a RWD car but you never in actuality are drifting.

The people who drive hondas and claim that they have drifted before dont know what they are talking about.

[Silvia S14]

Yup... plus with RWD you can string together a group of drifts which you can't do with FWD because they use momentum to mimic the look of getting sideways and that momentum is gone after the first "drift".

[FIRMRacing]

Yeah i hear you Silvia all the way.

[RotaWho]

IT IS JUST AS EASY TO DRIFT
IN FWD AND STILL QUALIFYS.

[scourge]

Originally posted by God
I'm sure when you looked it up and saw that you were wrong you felt like a gigantic jack ass and you couldn't let all the awesome people on SRO see how stupid you really are. Next time think before your write and don't mess with God.


Listen fuckwat, I got the definition out of Webster's New World Dictionary of the American Language, and I did edit it because I saw no need to post it all. I am not the one who is ANAL about this topic, I merely posted what is the usual meaning of "drifting." Frankly, I really don't give a fuck as it seems people ARE debating semantics rather than what is really going on! And, I always think before I write - especially enough to NOT choose a handle that is an imaginary being! But, if you wanna battle I ain't a hard man to find, fuckwat!

Scourge:(

[Rich]

Drifting as I learned it from the skip barber driving school is. entering, and completing a turn, and change in direction during a controlled, partial or complete loss of traction. i.e. sliding sideways through a corner, now as my friends overseas in Australlia, and Japan will argue. Drifting is the complete, and controlled loss of traction of the rear wheels while connecting coners of opposing apexes. With that I don't argue to save the effort. When it comes to the Jap/Aussy definiton it can ONLY be done by a RWD, but by the way I learned it, and how to do it, it can be done with damn near anything.

Just remember, some amercians do know how to drift....<br><img src="http://www.tohf.com/images/rutherford0812.jpg"

[patezem]

if anyone has access to "hot 4's and performance magazine" from australia there is a huge write up in the current issue on the first drift comp held in australia. There is one FWD car that you could say drifts!!! it is a 3 cylinder daihatsu charad witht the biggest turbo i have ever seen. it approaces the corner, applies the hand brake and pretty much flys around the corner sideways. Unless a FWD has enough power to drag the back end aroun for a couple of hundred metres at 60 KPH it wont be able to string more than one corner together.

[Rich]

It is all in suspention tuning of the car. If you tune for GROSS oversteer, you can start a slide with no brakes. Ask anyone with a Neon ACR what happens when they tune with full stiff rear, and full soft front. Toss in some soft compound front tires, and hard as hell rears, and you will have what it takes for an easy slide. I say "four wheel drift" when I mean a controlled loss of traction through a corner. You will never hear me say I'm a FWD drifter. :)

[scourge]

Originally posted by Rich
Drifting is the complete, and controlled loss of traction of the rear wheels while connecting coners of opposing apexes. With that I don't argue to save the effort.

Exactly. I can't get excited about it either. All cars exhibit relatively the same behavior while going through the turn, however people debate whether or not it is "drifting." It seems to be more word game than anything. But, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Scourge:(

[Jay]

is a the kiddiew...not rich,byrone and the like that know what there doing..but the kiddies that argue about drifting but wouldnt even know what an Apex is..even if they ran it over!!!

Stop argueing about it..and go out and drift..or grip..what ever flots you boat..but at least learn how to take a corner!@!@

[scourge]

Originally posted by God
Ohh and saying I don't know what an Apex is, you don't know me so how can you say anything? I AutoX every weekend and know how to drive so don't givce me that shit.

Um, that was not me you dumb fuckwat! Why you wanna keep this going? I really don't care that much about the subject yet you act like its of prime importance. And finally, I've never given anyone shit since I've been here except punkasses who think they know it all or come in with an attitude. You fulfill both and that is why you are a fuckwat whether or not you AutoX, dragrace, or suck your own dick every weekend. Like it matters what you think.

Scourge:(

[chingoner]

okay now everyone has to look up "fuckwat" so we can debate, bitch, moan about it. hahahaha
dang i was pretty close to running over the apex this afternoon...i would have had to go to the junk yard to pull some new front end parts.

[RotaWho]

WOW I THINK GONNA BYE A FUCKIN DAEWOO
OR A KIA AND GET AS FAST AS A SATURN.
HOE"S LOVE DAEWOO

[scourge]

Originally posted by RotaWho
WOW I THINK GONNA BYE A FUCKIN DAEWOO
OR A KIA AND GET AS FAST AS A SATURN.
HOE"S LOVE DAEWOO

How about some english and typing lessons? Oh, and don't forget counseling so you can deal with the fact that others don't give a fuck what you think. We're just amazed you can actually use a computer between the time you pick dingleberries out of your ass. 14-year-olds trying to be hardcaore, nigga please!

Scourge:(

[patezem]

pretty bloody lame isnt it??????

[scourge]

Originally posted by patezem
pretty bloody lame isnt it??????

Yeah, its annoying and pathetic to see others who NEED everyone else to think the way they do to validate their own beliefs. That goes for politics, religion, cars, etc. I want a Daewoo right now because that is what I like. I don't give other people a hard time because I am confident in myself and I don't need to talk shit. Besides, when I move to Okinawa next year I'm going to buy a Skyline! I don't know how long it will take me to find one, but I'll get it while these lame 14 year olds still talk shit out their ass! All cars are good in their own way, its the drivers who can be the assholes!

Scourge:(

[RotaWho]

sorry mom if my english is wrong
cause i dont give a fuck.I should
go buy a daewoo and get it to do
sixteens consistantlyor a saturn.

[scourge]

Originally posted by RotaWho
sorry mom if my english is wrong
cause i dont give a fuck.I should
go buy a daewoo and get it to do
sixteens consistantlyor a saturn.

Then you'd still be a dumbfuck as Daewoos have hit the fourteens in the 1/4 mile with stock internals. Goddamn idiots talk out their ass when they are too lazy to use the internet to learn!

Scourge:(

[Jay]

who wants to hook up and go drifting when I get back to Cali?

[RotaWho]

WOW A DAEWOOOOHA IN THE FOURTEENS
WELL I CAN GET A KIA IN THE THIRTEENS
AND IF I SPELLED ANYTHING WRONG MOM
PLEASE USE THE DICTIONARY TO EDIT
MY ENGLISH. I CAN SELL ANBODY A KIA
IF THEY CAN AFFORD IT.

[scourge]

God and Rotawho, let me explain something to you ignorant little boys. Nobody appreciates you coming on here talking shit - and I most especially mean you God as out of 8 posts, you have failed to provide anything of value. Rotawho has become Rotaain'tgottaclue as he obviously also talks out his ass trying to piss people off and adding nothing.

Its possible to get a Daewoo into the 12's, but I really don't care if it does or not. I prefer AutoX and SCCA type racing and that is obviously something you know nothing about. Oh, you may claim to know, but your ignorant posts suggest otehrwise. Go ahead and talk more hardcore ghetto shit. I'm done with both of your ignorant asses and will just ignore the two of you in the future as you are of no value. Fuck you and good day.

Scourge:(

[Mystik]

jay, you know i would love to (espically if i buy a AE86) but im not in the bay area... move out to minneapolis and i will drift with you every night :)

and about drifting, i say as long as your going sideways, and having fun, who gives a fuck what people think and say about "the true definition of drifting"

[scourge]

Originally posted by Mystik
and about drifting, i say as long as your going sideways, and having fun, who gives a fuck what people think and say about "the true definition of drifting"

Dat's right!:D Its more important to experience the "true definition of fun" than to experience the "true definition of drifting!"

Scourge:)

[Mystik]

:) right on scourge (ack, sprry if i spelled it wrong)... and you know when i get the 914 that shit will be <b>crazzzzyyyy</b> sideways... mid egine RWD.. wee!

[Kaz]

Drifting is relevent. In Japan...drifting is one thing. In other places it's something else. Who cares....really. I mean when we 'drift' in Japan it's FR's all the way because according to our definition of 'drift' it's FR's...not FF's. FF's can slide like no tommorrow but to US drifting isn't about pulling the sidebrake and all that. It's about using the rear wheels and the throttle and all that jazz.
We 'drift' when we rally too. That's mostly AWD's getting down in the dirt. Anyone ever try and rally w/ FR or FF? Not at all to easy to control in a full 'drift' around a u-turn in the dirt.
I think all this talking about 'drifting' is starting to 'drift' into a unnecessary argument over definitions. To 'drift' or not to 'drift'? What the hell's the question?
If you want to learn or 'drift' the Japanese style then you are going to have to use sometype of FR or maybe a MR (real difficult) type car. That's the Japanese style of 'drifting'. That's all I know. :)

[RotaWho]

well fag let me no when your in
the fourteens cause im pretty sure it
will be on g-tech. SO I NOTICED UNDER
YOUR SN IT SAYS (HITTIN 12'S) THAT MUST
BE THE SPEAKER BOX IN THE HATCH OF YOUR
HYUNDAE.

[Mystik]

dude, the "hittin 12's" thing is automaticly done.. it all depends on how many posts you have had... and give the shit talking a rest, no one appreciates it

[bins701]

....How did this thread start out as bay area drifting and end up with people arguing about DEAWOO 1/4 mile times?:D

[Daniel]

because people like God and RotaWho came in and fucked it all up. . .

[RotaWho]

well actually i did not fuck with anything
just somebodys head. anyways i will be drifting on sunday
in monterey autocross sponsered by ufo.

[slick50]

I am from Canada. Toronto to be exact. Here in the winter it snows heavily. That means that every single turn that I make in my 240sx is considered a drift. I sometimes go to the mall parking lot and practice my drifting. Once you get the car side ways it is amazingly hard to get the car straight again. If you streer hard you end up doing fishtails and all sorts. I know it isn't really drifting it is more like sliding on ice and snow, but it is good practice till the summer comes by then we could tear up the streets.
It also sucks having to dirve in this wheather in my car since I can't afford a winter car.

[spinhunt]

Winter, being from Manitoba, Canada, is the best time of the year to become a real perfectionist at driving rally style. If I could become a rally racer I would love to join Subaru's team and/or the Eclipse Team.

Someday I hope to be drifting through the snow and shit as a rally racer in the winter with 2001 Impreza RS and an illegal street racer in the summer using my 1993 Supra TT.

Sorry if this dropped off the topic of stealing cars in the Bay area. The movie Gone In 60 Seconds, really doesn't help matters any! especially showing little but really scary tips on stealing cars. Beside that shit, I love the Mustang GT500 Shelby.

[SL2much_rice]

Well being that I drift my sl2 all day long hitting up hwy 9
using the hand brake to constanly drift you need to bring up
a extra set of piece of shit tires to totally fuck up..
other wise you end up with a bumpy ride home

[Wolf]

Wow, old thread. Anyone ever contact that Aussie shop and see if they can ship to the US? They've got some pretty good parts/engines at great prices.

http://www.japanesemotorsport.com.au/mainpage.htm

[Wolf]

How about the 91 Silvia they have for $7k?

[BABY JESUS]

WolfDog Wherr you at Due>>Drifting like losse cannons>>>>
Are you part of 98 Cobra >>

[SR20DE-Turbo]

do anyone hate ricers? well i do.
for the most part, drifters hate ricers,
wanna-be-drifters

wanna-be-drifters as honda -ff cars- with a bunch of
stickers and some messed up body kit trying to do a drift.

what im trying to say is many of the drifters who actually tune their suspension and all other things to drift worked hard to become a "drifter" and suddenly a bunch of nobodys coming out trying to do stupid shit messing up our names. If you consider yourself a drifter then you better have a rearwheel drive car that is suited for drifting or a ff with good coil-overs with the design of difting and not cut springs just because it looks nice.

it's true that ff can drift but their drift lags:
e-brake drift only. which slows down the car dramaaticly.
can't make a good track time unless it's light as a crx.
and fr can use so many techniques to cause oversteer and go
through a track quicker.

not to be a cliche or corny,
but in japan, it's all about the fun.

[Wolf]

Originally posted by BABY JESUS
WolfDog Wherr you at Due>>Drifting like losse cannons>>>>
Are you part of 98 Cobra >>

I'm in SJ. No, I'm not in 98Cobra.

[Wolf]

Originally posted by SR20DE-Turbo
do anyone hate ricers? well i do.
for the most part, drifters hate ricers,
wanna-be-drifters


Ooooookay.... :rolleyes:

You leave anything out of your sig?

[SR20DE-Turbo]

Originally posted by Wolf2600


Ooooookay.... :rolleyes:

You leave anything out of your sig?

you know what i mean..

if anyone loves drifting why don't they get into drifting the right way. like the import sence, there's a wrong way and a right way. they should pratice it with a suitable car also in a safe area. i use to own a honda civic with a b18c1 and turbo and when i started to get into drifting i sold it to get my 240sx because it was the right way to go
that's all i have to say.

[Wolf]

Originally posted by SR20DE-Turbo


you know what i mean..

if anyone loves drifting why don't they get into drifting the right way. like the import sence, there's a wrong way and a right way. they should pratice it with a suitable car also in a safe area. i use to own a honda civic with a b18c1 and turbo and when i started to get into drifting i sold it to get my 240sx because it was the right way to go
that's all i have to say.

Yeah, I know what you're saying. Ppl get a Civic with 18s, try to drag it, they find it's not good for drag, so they try drifting with it. Eventually, they'll realize that it's only good for commuting, so they sell it.

[always_laughing]

Originally posted by SR20DE-Turbo
do anyone hate ricers? well i do.
for the most part, drifters hate ricers,
wanna-be-drifters

snip inane sig



What about people that laugh at "drifters" who think that drifting is a faster way around a track?

[SR20DE-Turbo]

well i drift because it makes me feel that i can control my car in no traction situations. yes i know drifting is the slowest way around the corner but grip turns are normal/faster and drift turns are extreme/slower.

[StiCcKyFiNgAaZ]

i pull my ebrake in my gti and nothin happens =/. when my friend got his gay civic he let me drive it around in this parkin lot and i pulled the ebrake and it was wheeee fun. scared the shit outta him cus he didnt expect it.

[Jay]

So again I ask...anyone wanna hook up with me when I get baco to MorCal for a little Touge action?

[Dj Elektrique]

Originally posted by always_laughing


What about people that laugh at "drifters" who think that drifting is a faster way around a track?

What about those people who have no concept of WHY or WHAT drifting really is and assume that drifters "think" the fastest way around a track is to drift every turn.

I live here in Japan and actually happen to be into this wonderful life of "drifting" and when its done the right way its FAST and there many drivers who will drive drift style at a circuit that can pull off faster lap times then very fast cars/drivers that grip the same circuit. When at a circuit you don't drift every single turn, you only drift the tight turns or multiple turns, plus you go into the turn quite a bit faster then you would if gripping it, then throw it sideways and use throttle contorl to keep it on the track.

Those who bring up pointless questions regarding how fast or slow drifting is do not understand the entire mindset, idea, or concept of drifting. Its a lifestyle, (atleast here it is) and its a way to perfect skills and reflexes and be a great driver, I love it, and plan on doing it for quite a while.

Originally posted by SR20DE-Turbo
i know drifting is the slowest way around the corner but grip turns are..
huh?... If you think that then you have ALOT to learn about drifting dood.

[TSR97integ]

drifting is SICK. i want a rwd car just so i can go drifting.

[Imagine]

someone close this thread before they defile the meaning of drifting even further!

[StiCcKyFiNgAaZ]

i like drifting into trees in my fwd car :rolleyes:

[always_laughing]

Originally posted by Dj Elektrique
I live here in Japan and actually happen to be into this wonderful life of "drifting" and when its done the right way its FAST and there many drivers who will drive drift style at a circuit that can pull off faster lap times then very fast cars/drivers that grip the same circuit.

Same driver, same skill, drifting is slower.

"Lifestyle"? Yawn.

[Dj Elektrique]

Originally posted by always_laughing
Same driver, same skill, drifting is slower.
"Lifestyle"? Yawn.

Like I said before, if you have to ask you will NEVER understand. You don't live here so you have NO IDEA what its like, it IS a lifestyle, and its alot bigger then "street racing" is in the states.
I could sit here and argue all night but you will never understand because you have not seen it or probably will not in your lifetime unless you visit Japan someday.

[SR20DE-Turbo]

Originally posted by Dj Elektrique
huh?... If you think that then you have ALOT to learn about drifting dood.

of course. i just started drifting. I HAVE NO INFORMATION WHAT SO EVER about drifting. i started learning drifting from hong kong not from japan and now i have no one to talk to about drifting because my friend moved for college. i just got the internet which i don't use much because most of the sites are in japanese. If i got a chance to go to japan i prolly learn alot but HEY! no one!..and also it's pretty hard to practice drifting around here because the space is thin and cops everywhere. right now im trying to find areas i can practice and learn myself...
-mike

[Dj Elektrique]

Originally posted by SR20DE-Turbo
i have no one to talk to about drifting because my friend moved for college. i just got the internet which i don't use much because most of the sites are in japanese..
-mike

then you will like www.velocity.isfaster.com www.driftclub.com www.sileightymania.com www.driftmania.com

Thos are good sites with drift stuff.. oh and my site has some drift stuff as well. Have fun

[SL2much_rice]

Hey SR 20, you wanna shorten up your signature, it's extremely annoying to watch an egocentric fag with SDS. Thanks.

[SR20DE-Turbo]

uh ok, i don't wanna be a bitch about this so i'll do whatever..

[ryans]

We are going Drifting this sunday at Button Willow. It's a good place to start

check out http://www.speedtrialusa.com

[sLaVeD]

Well there lots lots of street racing..Now does anyone have and good ideas for lots and lots of drifting?


check us out at http://www.whathedo.com

[BOB]

Holy old thread Batman! Is this a record?

[DRFT_KE70wagN]

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